Is it possible to take a fathers name OFF a birth certificate?

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Found 1st Mar 2011
My friends girlfriend has apparently done this. I am pretty sure you can't just do that, but can't find anything concrete online..does anyone know?

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poor kid!

Original Poster

splatsplatsplat

poor kid!



It's sad isn't it

you now decided its the milkman's? lol (sorry!)

She did find out via Jeremy Kyle?

is this something the citizens advice bureau could help with?

Original Poster

golemsmate

is this something the citizens advice bureau could help with?



Indeed it would be - but the CAB is near impossible to get to talk to anyone round here.

oO learn to keep her legs closed

SuperEd

http://www.gifsoup.com/view/1219798/jeremy-kyle-gets-owned.html

I would have thought it couldn't be changed.
Don't knock it,we don't know the reasons why she would like it off.

I know it can be done in america x

Banned

Nothing like a women scorned

Sounds like a case for the Jeremy Kyle show.

People are so judgmental on here, just answer the question and stop making snidey comments!


If the father has Parental Responsibilty then I think a court order is needed

If you can prove he is not the biological father, and you have the biological father's name to put there instead (and he is present at interview), then yes you can - but it's a pain in the backside to do - which is why they point out to you at the time that it is a legal document and alterations are VERY difficult to make. If you have proof that the name there is NOT the biological father, but you do not have the name of the REAL biological father, I think you can still do it, but it's not actually REMOVED, rather just struck out, if you know what I mean. I think it's different again if the child is onder 12 months... not sure why!

EDIT: You can't just take it off because you don't like him anymore... is what I'm getting at. But it is possible if there is a genuine cause to do so.
Edited by: "FrootCake" 1st Mar 2011

mumbojumbo

If it is proved through a DNA test that the named person is not the … If it is proved through a DNA test that the named person is not the biological father then it can be removed.



I would have thought that was the only time it could be taken off.

Banned

Ring your local registry office.

I would leave it on if he is the father because it is nice to know who your father is even if they are a rat.

Good luck!

http://www.ukdps.co.uk/CanABirthCertificateBeChanged.html

Removing the father from a birth certificate if he is not the biological father
If you are able to produce to the General Register Office DNA paternity test results (from a court approved DNA testing laboratory) that the person recorded on your child's birth certificate is not the biological father, you can have the father's name removed from your child's birth record and buy a new birth certificate without any details shown for the father. If your child's surname is the father's surname, you can have your child's surname changed on the birth certificate to your surname.

For details of court approved DNA paternity testing laboratories click on this link (opens new window).

For details of how to change your child's name by Deed Poll without the need for a DNA paternity test (or if you have DNA paternity test results from a non approved testing laboratory) please click on this link to read section 9 of our article about changing a child's name.

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nikkib123

People are so judgmental on here, just answer the question and stop … People are so judgmental on here, just answer the question and stop making snidey comments!



+1
there are some perfectly good reasons why someone would want to do this.

Original Poster

She has never said that he is not the father, just that she will remove his name because she is jealous of him moving on, I told him she's talking out her **** you can't just go changing things like that without a solicitor, judge DNA test or whatever as that's what I thought in the first place.

Thanks for the sensible answers..

DLM - I totally agree, having some kind of father (in most cases) is better than none at all.

Banned

Not sure on the OP's original question but this sort of thing just shows how bad the father can get it in an acrimonious split. The law is shocking in this area.

Shouldn't this be discussed on Jeremy Kyle and not HUKD?

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joeymcjoe

Shouldn't this be discussed on Jeremy Kyle and not HUKD?



This is the unofficial forum of Jeremy Kyle.

Some rule changed in April 2003 ish. When my husband split up with his ex she decided to change their sons surname to hers by deed poll, didnt need my husbands permission - he was very very against it

If baby was born before April 2003 i think the mother can make changes without fathers permission, after they cant.

It would depend on the circumstances i suppose. But remember Dads have exactly the same rights as Mams.

nono2522

Some rule changed in April 2003 ish. When my husband split up with his ex … Some rule changed in April 2003 ish. When my husband split up with his ex she decided to change their sons surname to hers by deed poll, didnt need my husbands permission



Did he have parental responsibility?


Edited by: "thesaint" 1st Mar 2011

sad times.......

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RosieWoo

Is it possible to take a fathers name OFF a birth certificate?



Build a time machine and sleep with someone else?

nono2522

Some rule changed in April 2003 ish. When my husband split up with his ex … Some rule changed in April 2003 ish. When my husband split up with his ex she decided to change their sons surname to hers by deed poll, didnt need my husbands permission - he was very very against it :(If baby was born before April 2003 i think the mother can make changes without fathers permission, after they cant.It would depend on the circumstances i suppose. But remember Dads have exactly the same rights as Mams.



That's what my mum and stepdad did for me when I was 14 or so, my real dad couldn't be bothered to see me and so I couldn't be bothered to have him in my life, so they changed my surname to their married surname, it did make us a family again.

thesaint

Did he have parental responsibility?



I presume so, he is named on birth cert. He and his ex were living together and engaged, just a normal relationship breakdown, he has always had very regular contact with his son, pays maintenence etc, shes just a spiteful self centred cow, changed their sons name because "she felt stupid having a diffrent surname"

Im not too sure on the exact meaning on parental responsibility?

I would never of forgiven my Mum if I found out years later that she removed my Dad from my birth certificate just because she was 'jealous'

Luckily my parents have always been together and I gained so much from having a Dad as well as my Mum.

I would never ever take my childrens Father from them no matter how much he annoyed me if we ever split, Thats not my option to remove a father figure from my kids, thats their choice.

moose109

That's what my mum and stepdad did for me when I was 14 or so, my real … That's what my mum and stepdad did for me when I was 14 or so, my real dad couldn't be bothered to see me and so I couldn't be bothered to have him in my life, so they changed my surname to their married surname, it did make us a family again.



That was your choice at a sensible age though.
She did this without even talking to my husband about it when their son was 3. He has always had regular contact, my stepson sleeps over every weekend minimum, and hes always paid maintence.

nono2522

That was your choice at a sensible age though. She did this without even … That was your choice at a sensible age though. She did this without even talking to my husband about it when their son was 3. He has always had regular contact, my stepson sleeps over every weekend minimum, and hes always paid maintence.



At 3 that is a big difference compared to 14, plus the other differences such as father seeing his son and paying maintenance, neither of which my real father did. From the childs point of view though (so please don't take this the wrong way), I always felt it was weird going anywhere, say holiday or day out, and names are on the tickets and my surname was different to my mums. That's one of the big things that made me agree to it, I just felt 'disconnected' to the two people who brought me up when we would go out somewhere.

As it's different with your husband though, she should really have at least talked to him about it, because now it would seem weird for his son growing up with his father having a different name.

nono2522

I presume so, he is named on birth cert. He and his ex were living … I presume so, he is named on birth cert. He and his ex were living together and engaged, just a normal relationship breakdown, he has always had very regular contact with his son, pays maintenence etc, shes just a spiteful self centred cow, changed their sons name because "she felt stupid having a diffrent surname" Im not too sure on the exact meaning on parental responsibility?


Parental responsibility basically means that the person with it, in the eyes of the law is legally responsible for the child untill they reach adulthood, (in the case of a married couple it is usually shared) irrespective of circumstances i.e break ups etc..If your friends husband had parental responsibility for the child she would not be able to just go ahead and change the childs surname, she would need his permission. The only exception being when the father, say for instance, has no involvement/interest in the childs life. The court can allow the decision to me made for him by them, as long as they feel it is in the best interests of the child.

WonderWoman

Parental responsibility basically means that the person with it, in the … Parental responsibility basically means that the person with it, in the eyes of the law is legally responsible for the child untill they reach adulthood, (in the case of a married couple it is usually shared) irrespective of circumstances i.e break ups etc..If your friends husband had parental responsibility for the child she would not be able to just go ahead and change the childs surname, she would need his permission. The only exception being when the father, say for instance, has no involvement/interest in the childs life. The court can allow the decision to me made for him by them, as long as they feel it is in the best interests of the child.



because his son was born before the law changed in 2003ish she can change her sons name without his Dads permission. It is very very wrong and it shouldnt be allowed. I would never change my childrens surnames just because i had spilt with their Dad. Fair enough if the Dad makes no effort to see his kids, or done something really bad, but this wasnt the case with my husband, his ex did it just to be a bitch.
Edited by: "nono2522" 1st Mar 2011

Alfonse

http://www.ukdps.co.uk/CanABirthCertificateBeChanged.htmlRemoving the … http://www.ukdps.co.uk/CanABirthCertificateBeChanged.htmlRemoving the father from a birth certificate if he is not the biological fatherIf you are able to produce to the General Register Office DNA paternity test results (from a court approved DNA testing laboratory) that the person recorded on your child's birth certificate is not the biological father, you can have the father's name removed from your child's birth record and buy a new birth certificate without any details shown for the father. If your child's surname is the father's surname, you can have your child's surname changed on the birth certificate to your surname.For details of court approved DNA paternity testing laboratories click on this link (opens new window).For details of how to change your child's name by Deed Poll without the need for a DNA paternity test (or if you have DNA paternity test results from a non approved testing laboratory) please click on this link to read section 9 of our article about changing a child's name.



I have already posted where to get the FACTS.

numpty's

PS This will be reposted if removed

Alfonse

I have already posted where to get the FACTS.numpty'sPS This will be … I have already posted where to get the FACTS.numpty'sPS This will be reposted if removed



who are you calling a numpty?

nono2522

who are you calling a numpty?



anyone I wish, next

nono2522

because his son was born before the law changed in 2003ish she can change … because his son was born before the law changed in 2003ish she can change her sons name without his Dads permission. It is very very wrong and it should be allowed.



I doubt a solicitor wrote that in a letter to your partner.

I have never heard of such a ruling, but would be interested to read it, as it's been a while since I used to look into this sort of thing.

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Inb4 Saint admits his son has asked to have his fathers name removed from his birth certificate! X)

guv

Inb4 Saint admits his son has asked to have his fathers name removed from … Inb4 Saint admits his son has asked to have his fathers name removed from his birth certificate! X)



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