Found 24th Feb 2008
Every meal i have (within reason) i pile loads of Tomato Ketchup on whether it be breakfast dinner or tea. Ive been told by someone that it contains a lot of sugar and am beginning to wonder if it might have any long term side effects.

I go through about 2 bottles a week but to be honest i cant help it, i just have to have all my meals with ketchup whether it be pizza, roast dinner, bacon on toast, fish etc. etc.

Hopefully theres a doctor-type person on here who might be able to help me out and tell me how bad ketchup might be in large quantities.

Thanks for all posts.

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Ketchup on toast....yum and surely less sugar than jam or marmalade ?

Thinks you may need to go on that Freaky Eaters programme!

Yes - most Ketchup is loaded with sugar to balance out the acidity of the tomatoes.

Sugar, and salt both bad for you in large amounts

Original Poster

: ( think im gonna have to cut down. Does anyone know if there is a 'sugar-free' ketchup around?

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stevey_p7;1628851

: ( think im gonna have to cut down. Does anyone know if there is a … : ( think im gonna have to cut down. Does anyone know if there is a 'sugar-free' ketchup around?



There's a reduced salt and sugar version. But it tastes like ****

I personally prefer Tabasco and get through around 4 bottles a week. Especially great on cornflakes - try it!

However, I now have type 3 diabetes and am incontinent. My doctor says it could be down to my diet. Does anyone have any advice?

The reduced sugar and salt version is not that bad (IMO).

2 bottles a week? Scary!

From a bottle of Heinz Organic ketchup (580ml bottle) Per 100ml
Sugar 26.8g
Salt 3g

You really don't want to be doing that for much longer. I don't tend to ever have tomato sauce with anything because I think the taste is too strong and it masks nice flavours in other things. You're probably having your RDI of salt and then some more just in your servings of tomato sauce and that's not actually taking into account what you eat!

But on the plus side : Fat .01g (at a guess) ;-)

You are DEFINETELY having a bad effect on your diet by having that much tomato ketchup. Try to cut down as much as possible and eventually have none at breakfast.

Original Poster

Cheers guys, i think its reached a stage where im gonna have to try and ease up on the ketchup and somehow ween myself off it.

God that sounded like i was talking about smoking... or even drugs.

Make your own tomato relish from fresh tommy farters you cant beat it, pure tomato and herb no added carp in it!

I once had a housemate who was genuinely scared of ketchup. Jees, we had some laughs with that!

it V.high in salt thats about it, depends what one you buy, I tend to eat stuff which has 0% added colorings etc

i thought i was bad at a bottle of brown sauce a week minimum

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Lycopene is very good for you but it comes from fresh tomatoes and I doubt there would be any left in tomato ketchup. Make your own is the best option.

to the OP, measure out 300g of sugar and put this in a jar near the ketchup. Thats how much sugar you are eating just from the ketchup each week so seeing it like this may stop you reaching for that ketchup.

Refined sugar is very bad for us with some doctors even considering it a poison for the masses.

...Refined sugar contains no fiber, no minerals, no proteins, no fats, no enzymes, only empty calories. What happens when you eat a refined carbohydrate like sugar? Your body must borrow vital nutrients from healthy cells to metabolize the incomplete food. Calcium, sodium, potassium and magnesium are taken from various parts of the body to make use of the sugar. Many times, so much calcium is used to neutralize the effects of sugar that the bones become osteoporotic due to the withdrawn calcium.
Likewise, the teeth are affected and they lose their components until decay occurs and hastens their loss.
...Refined sugar is void of all nutrients, consequently it causes the body to deplete its own stores of various vitamins, minerals and enzymes. If sugar consumption is continued, an over-acid condition results, and more minerals are needed from deep in the body to correct the imbalance. If the body is lacking the nutrients used to metabolize sugar, it will not be able to properly handle and rid itself of the poisonous residues.
These wastes accumulate through the brain and nervous system, which speeds up cellular death. The bloodstream becomes over-loaded with waste products and symptoms of carbonic poisoning result.
...Sugar also makes the blood very thick and sticky, inhibiting much of the blood flow into the minute capillaries that supply our gums and teeth with vital nutrients. Therefore, we wind up with diseased gums and starving teeth. America and England, the two largest sugar consumers, have horrendous dental problems.

macrobiotics.co.uk/sug…htm

ghchealth.com/ref…tml

csiman;1629688

Lycopene is very good for you but it comes from fresh tomatoes and I … Lycopene is very good for you but it comes from fresh tomatoes and I doubt there would be any left in tomato ketchup. Make your own is the best option.[COLOR="Blue"]Not true apparently:Unlike other fruits and vegetables, where nutritional content such as vitamin C is diminished upon cooking, processing of tomatoes increases the concentration of bioavailable lycopene. Lycopene in tomato paste is four times more bioavailable than in fresh tomatoes. This is because lycopene is so insoluble in water and is so tightly bound to vegetable fiber. Thus processed tomato products such as pasteurized tomato juice, soup, sauce, and ketchup contain the highest concentrations of bioavailable lycopene.[/COLOR]source: http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Lycopeneto the OP, measure out 300g of sugar and put this in a jar near the ketchup. Thats how much sugar you are eating just from the ketchup each week so seeing it like this may stop you reaching for that ketchup.Refined sugar is very bad for us with some doctors even considering it a poison for the masses.[COLOR="blue"]Totally agree and furthermore parents should be banned form giving it to their children, IMO. Good idea to spend a little extra and buy unrefined sugar if inded sugar is a must, you'll be doing your kids and you a big favour. [/COLOR]

All intersting stuff but I wouldn't use Wikipedia to back up an arguement it can sometimes be misleading and wrong.

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Thanks for the info hottoshop but I still think the benefits from lycopene in ketchup are seriously written off by the amount of sugar. Same principles apply in most 'healthy' cereals unfortunately.

Alfonse;1629800

All intersting stuff but I wouldn't use Wikipedia to back up an arguement … All intersting stuff but I wouldn't use Wikipedia to back up an arguement it can sometimes be misleading and wrong.



Agreed but much much better in recent times.

csiman;1629802

Thanks for the info hottoshop but I still think the benefits from … Thanks for the info hottoshop but I still think the benefits from lycopene in ketchup are seriously written off by the amount of sugar. Same principles apply in most 'healthy' cereals unfortunately.




Totally agree with you.

Surely it depends on how much you consume?

The majority of people only have a 'dolop'

suze;1629836

Surely it depends on how much you consume?The majority of people only … Surely it depends on how much you consume?The majority of people only have a 'dolop'



Yeah but the OP was saying he got through 2 bottles a week !!
On the surface that may look horrendous but looking into things it's not nearly as bad as you would assume APART from the sugar and salt levels.

Looks like he could eat 10 bottles a week and do himself a lot of good if he could find a sugar free, salt free recipe !! :w00t:

Might end up with a face like this though. :oops: lol

Ohhhhhhhh, 2 bottles a week that is excessive!

Actually I'm sure they do put something addictive into tomato sauce! I don't consume the quantities the OP does but, have to say certain things are just not right without it.


* Fried eggs HAVE to have a squirt of it in the (preferably) runny yolk!
* Sausage rolls
* Cottage Pie and
* Scampi to name but a few!

suze;1629903

Ohhhhhhhh, 2 bottles a week that is excessive! Actually I'm sure they do … Ohhhhhhhh, 2 bottles a week that is excessive! Actually I'm sure they do put something addictive into tomato sauce! I don't consume the quantities the OP does but, have to say certain things are just not right without it. * Fried eggs HAVE to have a squirt of it in the (preferably) runny yolk!* Sausage rolls* Cottage Pie and* Scampi to name but a few!



Now you making me hungry lol
Although................................
Cottage Pie !!!!! Sacrilege, is that a northern thing ?? Has to be gravy surely ??

Oh and don't forget bacon sarnies, yummy !

hottoshop;1629929

Now you making me hungry … Now you making me hungry lolAlthough................................Cottage Pie !!!!! Sacrilege, is that a northern thing ?? Has to be gravy surely ?? :pOh and don't forget bacon sarnies, yummy !



Cottage Pie - gravy yes AND tomato sauce

Bacon butties and sausage butties I agree HAVE to have tomato sauce too!!

Original Poster

Yeah i enjoy ketchup with pretty much everything. suze you are probably right because im hooked on the stuff that im gonna have to try and stop.

It would be funny if people could name the things they couldnt think of eating with ketchup and see what my answer is... im sure it will nearly everytime be yes.

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dcx_badass;1632436

I have it loads aswell, my dad claims its bad for me and full of sugar. … I have it loads aswell, my dad claims its bad for me and full of sugar. But my grandad who is a health maniac(had cancer now he doesn't eat meat, excercises constantly, really watches his diet) says that ketchup is good for me and the benefits outweigh the downside.


I'm afraid your grandad is plainly wrong. Anything with 26% pure sugar in it is plainly very very bad for you. Only thing I can think of that is worse is Coca-cola or pepsi.

Imagine having a cup of tea whereby you fill the mug a quarter full with sugar before adding water!

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dcx_badass;1632749

Some people do that with tea, and I'm sure I'll be fine, seeing as I … Some people do that with tea, and I'm sure I'll be fine, seeing as I don't drink a single fizzy drink ever, I still have alot less sugar than alot of people who drink glasses of it aday.


Yeah, I'm sure you will be fine.

Most things are OK in moderation - except Sunny D :-D

csiman;1632840

Yeah, I'm sure you will be fine.Most things are OK in moderation - except … Yeah, I'm sure you will be fine.Most things are OK in moderation - except Sunny D :-D



OMG do they still make that stuff ? Now if ever there was a legal poison for children that is/was it ! :evil:
(In my opinion of course )

Everything is bad for you these days anyway, so if you like ketchup then eat ketchup thats what i say!

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biff;1633207

Everything is bad for you these days anyway, so if you like ketchup then … Everything is bad for you these days anyway, so if you like ketchup then eat ketchup thats what i say!


So fruit & veg are bad for you now :whistling:

Is Ketchup bad for you?

Only if you inhale it - or are hit with the bottle.
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