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    Is there anyone following a gluten and dairy free diet??

    Basically, due to my sons special needs, I'm starting him on a gf/cf diet, which is actually proving to be quite difficult when you've got a 3 year old that is particularly fussy about what he eats.

    He's taken to soya milk with no arguments what so ever and I've been to Tescos today and looked in their free from section for things he can eat, but to be honest, I'm finding it really difficult to think about what I can try and get him to eat from the limited selection they had. I've found cereals he can eat,. along with some special biscuits, soya yogurts, cakes and pasta, but my Tescos has a really limited selection and I'm struggling trying to think what I can give him as absolutely everything has got to exclude all forms of gluten and dairy. I've just ordered a bread maker so I can make him gluten free bread and was also looking at a yogurt maker because he loves his yogurt and at £1.50 for a pack of 4, I can see his yogurt addiction getting expensive, lol.

    I was just wondering whether there is anyone else that is currently on this type of diet or has knowledge of it, as I'm pretty much in the dark and have no idea where's best to buy specialist foods like this from and if there's a website with dedicated recipes on it?

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    Hi,
    Being a vegan I'm on a dairy free diet and can say that I used to live off those yoghurts aha Alpro Soya?
    I stopped eating them a few months ago and have now excluded soy products from my diet totally after reading various articles saying how bad it was, especially for developing children. Don't want to worry you, just thought I'd let you know.
    Article here... wnd.com/new…327

    Try your local healthfood shop. You can get loads of products and advice from the trained people in there. Rye bread is gluten free if I remember rightly for the mean time till you get your bread maker.

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    n1ck09;2735394

    Hi,Being a vegan I'm on a dairy free diet and can say that I used to live … Hi,Being a vegan I'm on a dairy free diet and can say that I used to live off those yoghurts aha Alpro Soya?I stopped eating them a few months ago and have now excluded soy products from my diet totally after reading various articles saying how bad it was, especially for developing children. Don't want to worry you, just thought I'd let you know.Article here... http://www.wnd.com/news/article.asp?ARTICLE_ID=53327




    Thanks for that. It's the Alpro ones I've found in Tescos and he seems to like them. It's a bit of a no win situation as there's been a lot of information about children with autism benefiting from this diet, so I'd feel cruel for not giving him the opportunity to see if it improves him at all, and I feel cruel knowing it's not the best diet in the world. Another joy of being a parent I guess

    But thanks again for the link, interesting reading indeed.

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    hdixon85;2735404

    Try your local healthfood shop. You can get loads of products and advice … Try your local healthfood shop. You can get loads of products and advice from the trained people in there. Rye bread is gluten free if I remember rightly for the mean time till you get your bread maker.



    You're right - I didn't even think of that and looked online at my local one and it's got a yogurt maker, all the stuff I need to make yogurt with and lots of other things that he'll be able to eat. I'll have a look at the rye bread and see if that's on the ok to eat list, it's still a bit confusing at the moment :-D Thanks for the suggestions

    Get yourself some Carol Vorderman Detox books for some ideas. I got a few cheap one from Play and Amazon.

    ask ur pharmacy to order stuff for u. You cann get gf choc bisc, wafers, choc bars etc. Glutano, juvela, glutafin are common brands

    much of the Juvela range and some other GF stuff is available on NHS prescription. Your pharmacist should be able to advise which are available on prescription as it will save you a fortune.

    Dr F

    there must be a book somewhere that list regular stuff he can eat . AS i know when i look at food labelling these days alot of normal brands of foods says wheat free, gluten free dairt free etc

    My daughter has autism and has been following a gluten free diet for about 10 years. She is now able to tell me how beneficial it is, when she has a product with gluten accidentally she feels anxious, shaky and withdrawn. It's a very hard diet to follow and we didn't try dairy free. I do remember things got worse when we excluded gluten before they started to improve. However, it has to be worth it, good luck and don't give up. I use this website gfdiet.com/ind…htm

    My mums been on one for about 5 years now. She gets most of her stuff on prescription though. She does make her own bread though which is alot better than the stuff she gets in and other stuff such as cakes.

    Try the Gluten free companies Juvela, Glutafin etc see if you can get some free samples, but wherever you go im afraid its all going to be expensive to buy. Could try buying gluten free mix, substitute for the flour then trying to make different stuff. With bread it will come out nearly flat as can be as the gluten helps as a rising agent. You can buy something called Xanthum Gum which is basically a replacement to give it some rise.

    Hope this helps, please feel free to ask more!:thumbsup:

    hdixon85;2735404

    Try your local healthfood shop. You can get loads of products and advice … Try your local healthfood shop. You can get loads of products and advice from the trained people in there. Rye bread is gluten free if I remember rightly for the mean time till you get your bread maker.



    MANJ_007;2735636

    ask ur pharmacy to order stuff for u. You cann get gf choc bisc, wafers, … ask ur pharmacy to order stuff for u. You cann get gf choc bisc, wafers, choc bars etc. Glutano, juvela, glutafin are common brands



    doctorf;2735804

    much of the Juvela range and some other GF stuff is available on NHS … much of the Juvela range and some other GF stuff is available on NHS prescription. Your pharmacist should be able to advise which are available on prescription as it will save you a fortune.Dr F



    I have been gf all my life (in 40s now) and also developed a cows milk allergy in my teens.
    Sorry but no rye bread isn't gluten free and watch many of the prescription gf foods contain milk products so be careful there.
    Try goats milk if you feel this may be a milk protein intolerance, i'm ok with that just cows milk is a problem for me but my nephew is lactose intolerant which means soya only.
    A good place to start on the gf side is here;
    ]http//ww…asp

    pm me if you need any more info

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    Thank you everyone for your replies - there's a lot of useful info and tips there for me to take into consideration.

    And it's especially encouraging to hear from someone else that's following the same diet for the same reason and to actually have confirmation that it's done some good. Makes me even more determind to stick to it for him. If I get really stuck or need any advice about certain things, I'll take up those offers of pm's. Thanks again everyone :thumbsup:

    Charlie&Lola;2736408

    Thank you everyone for your replies - there's a lot of useful info and … Thank you everyone for your replies - there's a lot of useful info and tips there for me to take into consideration.And it's especially encouraging to hear from someone else that's following the same diet for the same reason and to actually have confirmation that it's done some good. Makes me even more determind to stick to it for him. If I get really stuck or need any advice about certain things, I'll take up those offers of pm's. Thanks again everyone :thumbsup:



    np and yes it is important, gluten intolerance (especially coeliacs disease) can make huge differences to quality of life and health.
    I am lucky that the effect is very noticeable but people with less sensitivity can suffer for years without diagnosis.

    Banned

    Whats the actual reason for the dietry needs? Allergies or ASD?

    We've tried our eldest out on Gluten Free stuff and still do occasionally. Rather annoying we asked our Doctor. He suggested there was no connection with dietary issues and behaviour. Yeh, right!

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    guv;2737168

    Whats the actual reason for the dietry needs? Allergies or ASD?We've … Whats the actual reason for the dietry needs? Allergies or ASD?We've tried our eldest out on Gluten Free stuff and still do occasionally. Rather annoying we asked our Doctor. He suggested there was no connection with dietary issues and behaviour. Yeh, right!




    It's basically because since he was born, the contents of his nappy have never ever been solid but the gp's haven't offered any advice or done anything about it, despite the fact he's 3 now and it's obviously not normal to have nappies like that every day. I came across this diet whilst reading the national autistic website where they say lots of kids with autism have digestion problems and the gf/cf diet has helped them, and also helped with speech and behaviour.

    They have a theory that where certain things cant be digested, they're passing through the gut and these 'toxins' are basically poisoning (not literally !!) the brain and stopping it functioning correctly, and when autistic children have cut out these undigestible foods, they start developing better speech and even talking in sentances as the brain isn't being 'poisoned' anymore.

    It doesn't work for every child, but it's got to be worth a try, even if it sorts out what he's producing in his nappies. But like you've experienced, anything out of the ordinary and gp's don't want to know !

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    Charlie&Lola;2737532

    It doesn't work for every child, but it's got to be worth a try, even if … It doesn't work for every child, but it's got to be worth a try, even if it sorts out what he's producing in his nappies. But like you've experienced, anything out of the ordinary and gp's don't want to know !



    Yeh its pretty much what we found when researching. Our eldest has ASD. One good thing though. Whilst his diet is far from normal (ie very fussy) we are lucky that the food stuff he eats is actually quite healthy. Apart from Cadbury's Dairy Milk, he eats no sweets, hates crisps and chips.

    My GP was very supportive when I asked him about this diet for my daughter, he gave me the gluten free products on prescription which I think is unusual unless you have a coeliac diagnosis. My daughter had a test done on her urine at the University of Sunderland which showed evidence of a 'leaky gut' i.e. as you say, substances were entering her bloodstream from the gut without being digested and causing chemical changes in the brain. I don't know if you can still get the test done, the department was called the Autism Research Unit.

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    guv;2738808

    Yeh its pretty much what we found when researching. Our eldest has ASD. … Yeh its pretty much what we found when researching. Our eldest has ASD. One good thing though. Whilst his diet is far from normal (ie very fussy) we are lucky that the food stuff he eats is actually quite healthy. Apart from Cadbury's Dairy Milk, he eats no sweets, hates crisps and chips.



    Ooooh, wish my little man was like that - he refuses to eat anything buy cereals, yogurt, sweets, cakes and chips. He did like the gluten free easy mix loaf I made today though, so that's a step forwards. Making it into sandwiches that he'll eat will be the next aim :-D


    rose_cat_jr;2739705

    My GP was very supportive when I asked him about this diet for my … My GP was very supportive when I asked him about this diet for my daughter, he gave me the gluten free products on prescription which I think is unusual unless you have a coeliac diagnosis. My daughter had a test done on her urine at the University of Sunderland which showed evidence of a 'leaky gut' i.e. as you say, substances were entering her bloodstream from the gut without being digested and causing chemical changes in the brain. I don't know if you can still get the test done, the department was called the Autism Research Unit.



    My gp's have been useless and it's basically all been left down to me to research and suggest things. I'm going to make an appointment and try and get their support with this diet, as any of this stuff on prescription is going to help the now massively increased shopping bill each week. I'll also mention the urine test you had done and see if they will do anything similar, but not holding out much hope there. They'll probably tell me to find my own way of getting it done knowing them :roll:

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    Charlie&Lola;2740689

    Ooooh, wish my little man was like that - he refuses to eat anything buy … Ooooh, wish my little man was like that - he refuses to eat anything buy cereals, yogurt, sweets, cakes and chips. He did like the gluten free easy mix loaf I made today though, so that's a step forwards. Making it into sandwiches that he'll eat will be the next aim :-D



    His diet is improving. His fav is pasta I would say (which is easy to get gluton free). He takes a packed lunch to school - and his "sandwiches" are just a bread and butter roll. He wont have anything in them! He does like Yoghurt - but only Petit Fluer Raspberry. If anyone eats crisps near him, he goes ballistic!

    I'm quite happy he isnt keen on sweets apart from Cadbury Dairy Milk. I wished I could say that for the youngest! He's also a keen ice cream merchant. Vanilla flavour only!

    He is a big meat eater, loves it with batter pudding and stuffing balls. We've just managed to get him to have a few carrots and a potato with his Sunday Roast through a bit of bribery. And getting him to try new things is done this way.

    Last year he discovered he likes Pizza. Margaretta only!

    ie its always the simple things.. nothing that looks too adventurous, which at the end of the day isnt that bad a thing!

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    Thanks - glad to hear it gets easier with time. I think it will become easy when I don't have to carry the list of 'banned' ingredients around with me and study what I'm picking up

    specialised gluten forums at this website - and free gluten product if you sign up :

    dsglutenfree.com/en/…nuk
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