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    is this diamond ring any good?

    looking to get an engagement ring soon, but not entirely sure about diamonds. i know the ring size, style preference and stuff, but i don't know how to tell if a diamond is good or not

    this is the ring i'm looking at:

    ernestjones.co.uk/web…26/

    i'll be the first in my group of friends to propose so i don't have a friend who's done all this before to consult. is this too cheap? ladies of the forum, would you be offended by the price of this ring or is it ok?

    if it is too cheap i'll just save some more and get a more expensive one...


    thanks in advance for any help

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    depends on your income I paid £899 for mine reduced by £200 she picked it but didn't know I had bought it

    income of £24k per year

    ring should have been £2k I told her to look for one that was £1.5k but she chose the cheaper one

    get a bigger carat, mine was half carat

    price isnt everything as long as she will be over the moon with it...along with the statement that comes with it.

    for example ive been looking at rings over the previous 5 days and getting a taste for what my girlfriend likes (weve been together over 5 years now!) and originally we saw a lovely ring in goldsmiths for £899! (eeek!) But she preferred one in H Samuels which was only £339!

    awoodhall2003;6226063

    price isnt everything as long as she will be over the moon with … price isnt everything as long as she will be over the moon with it...along with the statement that comes with it.for example ive been looking at rings over the previous 5 days and getting a taste for what my girlfriend likes (weve been together over 5 years now!) and originally we saw a lovely ring in goldsmiths for £899! (eeek!) But she preferred one in H Samuels which was only £339!



    +1, it's lovely, she won't care how much you paid for it Lots of luck xx

    Original Poster

    the next one up they have in her size is ernestjones.co.uk/web…17/ which is a bit of a jump

    did i mention 14% quidco

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    gav989;6226076

    the next one up they have in her size is … the next one up they have in her size is http://www.ernestjones.co.uk/webstore/detail/R/5974917/ which is a bit of a jumpdid i mention 14% quidco



    has to be near a months wage or she'll call you cheap, nah but seriously got to remember what her friends will think when they see it, that's more important

    Original Poster

    hmmmm

    well i'm actually a student supporting myself with a part time job, so it's gonna be part of my loan. my monthly income is £220 but i have a lot of loan stored up in savings accounts

    we've been together 6 and a half years by the way so it's not like i've rushed into this

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    gav989;6226093

    hmmmmwell i'm actually a student supporting myself with a part time job, … hmmmmwell i'm actually a student supporting myself with a part time job, so it's gonna be part of my loan. my monthly income is £220 but i have a lot of loan stored up in savings accountswe've been together 6 and a half years by the way so it's not like i've rushed into this



    mine was 7.5yrs, go for the cheaper ring then, when you get a good job buy her a new one or a really nice wedding ring :thumbsup:

    btw white gold goes crap really quickly, very disappointed in the one I bought pay £900 for a ring and it dulls within a few months of wear. She wears it non stop though

    sadiebabes;6226070

    +1, it's lovely, she won't care how much you paid for it Lots of luck … +1, it's lovely, she won't care how much you paid for it Lots of luck xx


    glad there are others out there...like my girlfriend said she doesnt really care what it costs, just as its a ring she wants to wear forever it has to be diamond (as theyre forever ;-)) and that she loves it, thus she wants something a little different from the 'classic' ring. so whatever makes her happy, makes me happy :thumbsup:
    lumoruk;6226084

    has to be near a months wage or she'll call you cheap, nah but seriously … has to be near a months wage or she'll call you cheap, nah but seriously got to remember what her friends will think when they see it, that's more important


    im studying law at uni at the moment...so my actual wage is £0...or including summer work and government loan/grants probably works out about £900 still id imagine for me...

    gav989;6226093

    hmmmmwell i'm actually a student supporting myself with a part time job, … hmmmmwell i'm actually a student supporting myself with a part time job, so it's gonna be part of my loan. my monthly income is £220 but i have a lot of loan stored up in savings accountswe've been together 6 and a half years by the way so it's not like i've rushed into this


    good to see im not the only one that has waited a while before even really considering it! and it wont be too soon either...i have other goals first...

    Original Poster

    her 21st birthday is coming up and i was gonna do it for that, that's the only reason for the timing, i've been sure about her for a while

    gav989;6226136

    her 21st birthday is coming up and i was gonna do it for that, that's the … her 21st birthday is coming up and i was gonna do it for that, that's the only reason for the timing, i've been sure about her for a while


    best of luck...you honestly sound similar to me in some respects...my girlfriend turned 21 in june, i was originally thinking of it then, but didnt want to trump her 21st and wanted more time.

    Gav, ignore the rubbish about the cost being wage dependant (no offence Lumoruk), it is very old fashioned, and as for what her friends think, who cares! Go for something you know she likes metal wise. Have a look at what jelwellery she nornally wears and you could always ask her family and friends what she would like. Us girls usually discuss what we'd like with our friends! Either way, it's all about the gesture and meaning, not the cost and other peoples opinions.
    Good luck!
    Btw, the ring you've picked is gorgeous, very classic. They also have a 30 exchange policy if it's not her taste!

    First of all it is not how much something costs that is important it is what it represents.

    When I got engaged my hubby was a student too,we were also looking to buy a house so money was very tight.Of course it would be lovely to have a huuuuuge diamond but that was not the issue.My teeny engagement ring meant the world to me as I am sure whichever ring you buy will me the world to your lovely lady.:)

    Rightyo.......now all the mushy stuff is out of the way lol what is your max budget?
    I know a little bit about jewellery,no expert,but I am sure you could source a bigger stone for what you will pay at EJ,high st jewellers are quite expensive tbh,also there is no info on the quality of the diamond you are buying.

    Let me know what your budget is and I'll see what i can find if ya like.

    have you discussed marriage etc with her

    im probably different but id hate to be with someone and never been r had fun with anyone else
    its just seems a waste of life

    but we are ALL different

    Original Poster

    budget up to around £700ish i reckon. she's a size k so a massive stone would look silly on her anyway (i keep telling myself this). i could go over budget if it was the perfect ring though

    i'm not concerned about the size of the stone (though preferably 1/4 carat or more) but more on the quality of the ring and most importantly i want to buy from a reputable company, which is why i've been looking in ej and hs

    she likes round (brilliant) solitaire in white gold, probably gonna have to be 18ct white gold


    any ideas or advice would be greatly appreciated, thanks

    Original Poster

    jason i know what you mean there but yeah we've discussed it. it's what we both want and the thought of being with anyone else is just weird to me. we grew up together and it seems right to us

    she's already told me she'll say yes if i ask her, it's just a matter of getting round to it

    gav989;6226183

    budget up to around £700ish i reckon. she's a size k so a massive stone … budget up to around £700ish i reckon. she's a size k so a massive stone would look silly on her anyway (i keep telling myself this). i could go over budget if it was the perfect ring thoughi'm not concerned about the size of the stone (though preferably 1/4 carat or more) but more on the quality of the ring and most importantly i want to buy from a reputable company, which is why i've been looking in ej and hsshe likes round (brilliant) solitaire in white gold, probably gonna have to be 18ct white goldany ideas or advice would be greatly appreciated, thanks


    Gonna have a look for ya,hun:)

    Back in a few!

    well good luck to you
    wish you all th best
    personally id go for whatever budget suits you (and it has to be relative i believe)

    it doesnt have to be expensive to be the best but the thought that counts

    at the same time yuo have to be careful of her feelings
    does she want you to spend so much on a ring or would she rather save that little bit extra for a house or something
    or does she have expensive tastes

    but im not one to talk because our wedding rings were bought by my wifes parents

    muckypup if you wouldnt mind doing the same for me it would be greatly appreciated!
    I would be after something a little less classic, ideally 1/4ct+ same as gav, obviously would like to know the colour, cut and clarity. She also preferred trilogy or even clusters in a trilogy design ie like:
    http://www.goldsmiths.co.uk/content/thumbnail/13963.jpg

    Original Poster

    she is of the expensive tastes variety, but i think she'll be more forgiving on this occasion since it's already a lot more than anything i've ever bought her, we usually set a £30 budget for birthday presents etc.

    she says she's not bothered about the price as long as it's nice and is delivered in a 'romantic' way (which i have yet to plan). but she might just be saying that to appear more selfless so i want to make sure i get something shiny

    Okies........just to give you an idea of what you can get

    ]diamond ring

    There are loads of styles available from this site,a good variety in various metals and stone sizes.

    The one I have just picked out for you just appealed to me,I think it is a lovely modern setting but still a nice traditional engagement ring.Not a huge difference in price to the one in EJ,similar stone size BUT this one you have a graded diamond G-H colour(means you will have a nice white diamond) SI clarity(this means slightly included,inclusions ie marks in the stone are not visible to the naked eye,they are only visible under 10x magnification)

    The EJ one you would have to ask them re the diamond quality,the fact that they do not state suggests it will be I1-I3(ie inclusions visible to naked eye) and the colour will not be as white.

    Just an idea od what you could get for her.

    tbh i think you should be considering the "romantic way" more than the ring
    she seems a really nice girl and has both your interests at heart
    youve got to think of something unique romantic and special
    which to me is more important than the ring itself

    awoodhall2003;6226206

    muckypup if you wouldnt mind doing the same for me it would be greatly … muckypup if you wouldnt mind doing the same for me it would be greatly appreciated!I would be after something a little less classic, ideally 1/4ct+ same as gav, obviously would like to know the colour, cut and clarity. She also preferred trilogy or even clusters in a trilogy design ie like:


    Not at all hun........I love jewellery:-D(much to mr mucky's dismay lol)

    What is your budget and what colour gold?Do you know her ring size too?

    Original Poster

    is this 'thediamondstore' a good place to buy from? i;ve not heard of it before...

    thanks a lot for looking though, certificated rings were a lot more expensive on ej and the cheapest ones (£800ish) were p2 graded, which was right at the bottom of their scale. i really appreciate the time you spent to help me, so thanks for that

    Original Poster

    yeah the 'romantic way' is more important, that's the part she'll remember. i will definitely put a lot of thought into that. but the hukd spirit within me wants to make sure i get the best that i can for my money before i start worrying about the 'how'

    muckypup;6226223

    Not at all hun........I love jewellery:-D(much to mr mucky's dismay … Not at all hun........I love jewellery:-D(much to mr mucky's dismay lol)What is your budget and what colour gold?Do you know her ring size too?


    thank you...i do know her ring size...but can i remember it tonight? i think its around a M/N.
    budget again is flexible just means saving up for longer! ideally id say upto £500 ideally but willing to spend more if nice, again were saving for a deposit for a mortgage! she is a yellow gold wearer and thus think will stick with that unless the ring looks better in white gold but after lumor saying its changed over just months i think yellow gold might be safer bet.

    gav989;6226225

    is this 'thediamondstore' a good place to buy from? i;ve not heard of it … is this 'thediamondstore' a good place to buy from? i;ve not heard of it before...thanks a lot for looking though, certificated rings were a lot more expensive on ej and the cheapest ones (£800ish) were p2 graded, which was right at the bottom of their scale. i really appreciate the time you spent to help me, so thanks for that


    Well they have on the internet for a few years that I know of,there are also some reviews on the site from other customers etc.You also have a 30 day return policy if not satisfied so if it isn't the right one for you no issue changing for something else.

    Give them a call just to put your mind at rest but I am sure they are ok.:)

    Original Poster

    i might do that and ask some sort of question, if they seem friendly i would definitely consider them, for an extra £100 or so i can get this one:
    thediamondstore.co.uk/LOW…cfm
    which is an even better diamond and has 6 claws which i reckon looks better. does the amount of claws also determine how well held in the diamond is? i reckon that's probably the perfect ring right there, but i'll wait a few days or so before i order and think

    thanks again

    awoodhall2003;6226236

    thank you...i do know her ring size...but can i remember it tonight? i … thank you...i do know her ring size...but can i remember it tonight? i think its around a M/N.budget again is flexible just means saving up for longer! ideally id say upto £500 ideally but willing to spend more if nice, again were saving for a deposit for a mortgage! she is a yellow gold wearer and thus think will stick with that unless the ring looks better in white gold but after lumor saying its changed over just months i think yellow gold might be safer bet.


    I'm a yellow gold girl too;-)

    From the same place as the one I chose for gav.......]trilogy ring it's on budget,just,again the diamond quality is SI and colour H so nice sparkly diamonds.I like this because the diamonds are princess cut,something a little bit different to what you may have seen,a bit more modern in design too.

    For the same price you could get a bit more carat weight of stone but a bit less on the quality ]traditional trilogy
    this is in 9k gold but 1/2 carat of diamonds H-I colour,I1 clarity.These diamonds are still not too bad,9k gold is more heardwearing than 18k just less of a buttery colour to the gold(9k =37.5% gold,18k=75% gold)

    Just in case it helps... my engagement ring was bought, on the high street, from ]these guys.... could be worth a look!

    gav989;6226259

    i might do that and ask some sort of question, if they seem friendly i … i might do that and ask some sort of question, if they seem friendly i would definitely consider them, for an extra £100 or so i can get this one: http://www.thediamondstore.co.uk/LOW-SET-CHLOE-18KW-DIAMOND-SOLITAIRE-RING-033CT-F-G-VS-P13106C816.cfmwhich is an even better diamond and has 6 claws which i reckon looks better. does the amount of claws also determine how well held in the diamond is? i reckon that's probably the perfect ring right there, but i'll wait a few days or so before i order and thinkthanks again



    The amount of claws doesn't make a difference really,it's just a different style.Some people prefer less claws and a raised setting so that more light can shime through the stone,more sparkly,it's reall a matter of taste.That one you have picked is beautiful also,and as you say for a little more you get a better diamond.

    You know your lady best and what she will like.I am certain you will choose well.

    Good luck sweetie........feeling all soppy now!:oops:

    I'm very drunk at the moment but I can help you out tomorrow, as I'm a jewellery expert...but I'm a bit too drunk to help out right now.

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    Hi

    I was reccomended this company - 365-diamond.com/ran…D=3

    Seem very well priced and they have a great selection, plus you can make monthly payments

    Anyways, good luck with it all xx

    awoodhall2003;6226206

    muckypup if you wouldnt mind doing the same for me it would be greatly … muckypup if you wouldnt mind doing the same for me it would be greatly appreciated!I would be after something a little less classic, ideally 1/4ct+ same as gav, obviously would like to know the colour, cut and clarity. She also preferred trilogy or even clusters in a trilogy design ie like:



    That is identical to my ring bought in 1986. But we were also v. poor students at the time. So we went to antique / pawnbroker jewellers type shop and had a very good choice.

    Not for everybody but when he proposed, he didn't have the ring (spur of the moment thing!), so it was nice to chose it together. AND you don't pay VAT on second hand jewellery, only new. Over the years, have bought many more unique items from the same shop.

    realfriendlyman;6226347

    I'm very drunk at the moment but I can help you out tomorrow, as I'm a … I'm very drunk at the moment but I can help you out tomorrow, as I'm a jewellery expert...but I'm a bit too drunk to help out right now.



    Hilarious, but you need to read his other post made recently!

    nikkib123;6226741

    Get the best and most expensive one you can afford, this is something she … Get the best and most expensive one you can afford, this is something she will have for life - thats my advice



    Odd comment. Easiest thing in the world to spend a lot of money, but you want to know what you get for your bucks.

    I have a £100 off a £300 spend voucher code, if you want me to PM you the code just let me know, Im never gonna use it and its valid online until 26/09/09.

    if your gonna buy instore I can post the voucher to you x

    muckypup;6226262

    I'm a yellow gold girl too;-)From the same place as the one I chose for … I'm a yellow gold girl too;-)From the same place as the one I chose for gav.......]trilogy ring it's on budget,just,again the diamond quality is SI and colour H so nice sparkly diamonds.I like this because the diamonds are princess cut,something a little bit different to what you may have seen,a bit more modern in design too.For the same price you could get a bit more carat weight of stone but a bit less on the quality ]traditional trilogythis is in 9k gold but 1/2 carat of diamonds H-I colour,I1 clarity.These diamonds are still not too bad,9k gold is more heardwearing than 18k just less of a buttery colour to the gold(9k =37.5% gold,18k=75% gold)


    yeah i think i prefer the first one actually, definetely on 'the list' :thumbsup:
    iglimpse;6226734

    That is identical to my ring bought in 1986. But we were also v. poor … That is identical to my ring bought in 1986. But we were also v. poor students at the time. So we went to antique / pawnbroker jewellers type shop and had a very good choice.Not for everybody but when he proposed, he didn't have the ring (spur of the moment thing!), so it was nice to chose it together. AND you don't pay VAT on second hand jewellery, only new. Over the years, have bought many more unique items from the same shop.


    cool! yeah i usually only get bought/buy second hand gold for myself as no huge mark up, no VAT, etc. But obviously its the case of whats around at the time of looking, but i also know she would be more then happy with a second hand ring as well.
    bitseylango;6226777

    I have a £100 off a £300 spend voucher code, if you want me to PM you the … I have a £100 off a £300 spend voucher code, if you want me to PM you the code just let me know, Im never gonna use it and its valid online until 26/09/09.if your gonna buy instore I can post the voucher to you x


    thats very kind, rep left, Gav save yourself £100...could even get a slightly better one if wanted with the money off! :thumbsup:

    There is some good advice in the thread, but can I suggest, of all places, Amazon.com - in the US they do a make your own ring - you choose the exact diamond you want down the exact specifications you want;
    Cut
    Colour
    Clarity
    Carat
    & Shape
    Also all gems are certified as natural, so easy to insure.

    For example $675 buys you a 0.52 carat F colour (almost colourless) I1 quality diamond.
    Exact spec
    ][COLOR=#004b91]Stone shape[/COLOR]:Round][COLOR=#004b91]Carat Weight[/COLOR]:0.52 carats][COLOR=#004b91]Cut[/COLOR]:Ideal][COLOR=#004b91]Color[/COLOR]:F][COLOR=#004b91]Clarity[/COLOR]:I1][COLOR=#004b91]Certificate type[/COLOR]:GIA][COLOR=#004b91]Depth %[/COLOR]:60.8][COLOR=#004b91]Table %[/COLOR]:58][COLOR=#004b91]Symmetry[/COLOR]:Excellent][COLOR=#004b91]Polish[/COLOR]:Very Good][COLOR=#004b91]Girdle[/COLOR]:Very Thin to Medium][COLOR=#004b91]Culet[/COLOR]:None][COLOR=#004b91]Fluorescence[/COLOR]:None][COLOR=#004b91]Measurements[/COLOR]:5.21 x 5.19 x 3.16 millimeters][COLOR=#004b91]Length-to-width ratio[/COLOR]:1

    Obviously you can select exactly what works within your budget, and then choose the exact setting you want (starting at $117 for 14 carat yellow gold).

    That way not only does she get a beautiful ring of a higher quality than equivalant cost on the high street, but she gets to know you though about exactly what she likes, and put the effort in.

    Plus 5% student discount *whistle*

    seancampbell;6226848

    There is some good advice in the thread, but can I suggest, of all … There is some good advice in the thread, but can I suggest, of all places, Amazon.com - in the US they do a make your own ring - you choose the exact diamond you want down the exact specifications you want;Cut ColourClarityCarat& ShapeAlso all gems are certified as natural, so easy to insure.For example $675 buys you a 0.52 carat F colour (almost colourless) I1 quality diamond.Exact spec][COLOR=#004b91]Stone shape[/COLOR]:Round][COLOR=#004b91]Carat Weight[/COLOR]:0.52 carats][COLOR=#004b91]Cut[/COLOR]:Ideal][COLOR=#004b91]Color[/COLOR]:F][COLOR=#004b91]Clarity[/COLOR]:I1][COLOR=#004b91]Certificate type[/COLOR]:GIA][COLOR=#004b91]Depth %[/COLOR]:60.8][COLOR=#004b91]Table %[/COLOR]:58][COLOR=#004b91]Symmetry[/COLOR]:Excellent][COLOR=#004b91]Polish[/COLOR]:Very Good][COLOR=#004b91]Girdle[/COLOR]:Very Thin to Medium][COLOR=#004b91]Culet[/COLOR]:None][COLOR=#004b91]Fluorescence[/COLOR]:None][COLOR=#004b91]Measurements[/COLOR]:5.21 x 5.19 x 3.16 millimeters][COLOR=#004b91]Length-to-width ratio[/COLOR]:1Obviously you can select exactly what works within your budget, and then choose the exact setting you want (starting at $117 for 14 carat yellow gold). That way not only does she get a beautiful ring of a higher quality than equivalant cost on the high street, but she gets to know you though about exactly what she likes, and put the effort in.Plus 5% student discount *whistle*


    do they delivery over here then?
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