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    Is this graphics card any good??

    Ive been looking to get a new graphics card for my pc and because I just got a £50 voucher from play.com, Im going to get one.

    I looked at this card
    play.com/PC/…tml
    and think its a good deal, but are there any better on the play.com site that I could get.
    Perhaps an 8800gt??

    Thanks for any help.

    31 Comments

    Original Poster

    Worth mentioning what your monitor resolution is and what sort of games you play; also is your PC suited to a larger card (adequate PSU/cooling etc...)

    NB That card is a little cheaper elsewhere (]£73 at ebuyer) but I guess with your voucher thats not really a big deal...

    8800gt all the way. best buy of my new comp.

    For £90 you can get a ]HD 4830 which would be a fair bit better than the 8600 GT

    Toms Hardware comparison between the =on∏[2086]=on"]HD3870 and the 8600GT. They don't have the HD4830 benchmarked yet but it's better than the HD3870...

    Original Poster

    jah128;3662016

    Worth mentioning what your monitor resolution is and what sort of games … Worth mentioning what your monitor resolution is and what sort of games you play; also is your PC suited to a larger card (adequate PSU/cooling etc...)NB That card is a little cheaper elsewhere (]£73 at ebuyer) but I guess with your voucher thats not really a big deal...



    Ive got enough space in my comp atm as there is a 8300gs. Its got a 350w psu so its got to work with that as I cant afford to upgrade that aswell. My monitor res is 1280x1024. And I want to play gta4, fallout 3, halo 2, quantum of solace and gears 1.
    I can buy from somewhere other than play.com, but its got to be £35 cheaper to make it worth while. Oh and the card has to have a vga port on or a dvi to vga adapter will be needed as well.

    1280x1024 is quite a low res so a 8800GT or even 48x0 might almost be overkill, especially given the PSU (NB They always tend to come with at least one VGA port or adapter) unless your looking at games like Crysis.

    Some useful charts at Toms Hardware:
    tomshardware.co.uk/cha…tml

    You can buy a Radeon 4670 which seems to outperform the 8600GT by quite a margin for under £60 elsewhere, don't think Play have them though.

    yeah u gunna need higher PSu for 8800gt but its similar pricing to the other ones recommended.

    Looking at some more benchmarks the 4670 seems to perform really well at that res; comfortably double the frame-rate of the GeForce 8600GT and outperforming the 8800GTS in quite a few titles, and there are a number for under £60 at ebuyer (and no doubt elsewhere); certainly seems the best value for money card to me...

    Pity play don't have any but you could always sell the voucher/buy something else and sell it/get some games with it and get the card from elsewhere!

    What you want is this 9600gt,99% the speed of a 8800gt but uses much less power so no nheed for a new PSU
    ]http//ww…tml
    Tony

    Original Poster

    So would you say that 9600gt and 2gb of ram for £50 is a good deal??

    If its got to be from play that 9600gt tony has suggested is a much better choice

    deathtrap3000;3662568

    So would you say that 9600gt and 2gb of ram for £50 is a good deal??



    As in £50 + £50 voucher?

    Original Poster

    jah128;3662592

    As in £50 + £50 voucher?



    Yeh. Total comes to £99.98
    for that 9600gt and ]this set of ram.

    Looks good to me!

    Original Poster

    What about this radeon 4670.
    play.com/PC/…tml
    Is that any good??

    Whoops missed that before! Its a little cheaper elsewhere but not by much. Looking at most benchmarks they (the 4670 and 9600) are both similar value at the respective prices (£70 for the radeon, £85 for the 9600). The 9600 is a little bit better but both look like they will be perfectly playable in almost any game, I guess its down to what you want to spend...

    Definitely

    Original Poster

    So would you say the ati card is better value or is the nvidia card worth the extra £15?

    deathtrap3000;3662193

    Ive got enough space in my comp atm as there is a 8300gs.



    That doesn't mean you've got enough space as a lot of these cards are going to be much longer than a basic card like that so won't fit in more compact cases.

    Also, you really need to know how much continuous (not peak) power your PSU can provide on the +12v rail. I'm afraid the wattage doesn't mean much, especially without knowing the age and brand of the PSU. It's recommended to have 26A for a 9600GT/8800GT (what you've get from a good quality modern 350W), the 4670 is more efficient but I don't know what the recommended figure for that is.

    Normally I'd say go for the 9600GT since it's faster than the 4670 and the same price, but play don't have a cheap 9600GT and as you've got a £50 voucher for there the 4670 might be the better choice, it is also lower power and shorter so you'd have less worry about it working with your case and PSU.

    If you do decide to go for the 9600GT I'd also look at the 9800GT as it's only £5 more expensive at play.

    EDIT: Don't even consider going for the 8600GT at that price, it's a £30-40 card and passive cooling isn't worth that much.

    Original Poster

    Current card is 6.5in with about an inch of clearance underneath and behind it.
    Its a liteon psu and It says 18A on the +12v

    nvidia all the time.
    used to have ATI cards and since my 8800gt ill never go back.

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    deathtrap3000;3664326

    Current card is 6.5in with about an inch of clearance underneath and … Current card is 6.5in with about an inch of clearance underneath and behind it.Its a liteon psu and It says 18A on the +12v



    There really isn't much in the performance between these two cards.
    Both recommend a 400w psu, but the 4670 can run on lower 350w psu's depending on what else is being powered.

    I would go for the 4670 even though I like the Nvidia 9 series, pretty sure you won't be dissapointed with it.

    The 9600/9800 isn't going to fit in the case, by the sound of it, as its approx. 8inch long and 1.5inch deep, and you need a minimum 450w psu.

    Here's a comparison chart for cod4, just so you can see some performance comparisons with similar cards:
    guru3d.com/cat…pc/

    Hope it helps

    deathtrap3000;3664326

    Current card is 6.5in with about an inch of clearance underneath and … Current card is 6.5in with about an inch of clearance underneath and behind it.Its a liteon psu and It says 18A on the +12v



    If you can only fit a 7.5" long card in there than a 9600GT won't fit.

    Original Poster

    EndlessWaves;3669410

    If you can only fit a 7.5" long card in there than a 9600GT won't fit.



    It will fit. I will have to get another sata cable though.

    Original Poster

    What about this 9800gt
    play.com/PC/…tml

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    Mclovin;3664795

    nvidia all the time.used to have ATI cards and since my 8800gt ill never … nvidia all the time.used to have ATI cards and since my 8800gt ill never go back.



    Likewise. I always avoid ATI now.

    guv;3675979

    Likewise. I always avoid ATI now.



    ATI definately have the best design at the moment though (if not the most powerful, the move away from a huge monolithic die and 512-bit bus to a small, scalable die with faster memory on a 256-bit bus has totally changed the current market in their favour). As with most things computer related, its best to keep your options open, and whilst Nvidia were making the best cards 2006-mid 2008, the current AMD line-up is the better than Nvidias offerings in most respects.

    jah128;3677677

    ATI definately have the best design at the moment though (if not the most … ATI definately have the best design at the moment though (if not the most powerful, the move away from a huge monolithic die and 512-bit bus to a small, scalable die with faster memory on a 256-bit bus has totally changed the current market in their favour). As with most things computer related, its best to keep your options open, and whilst Nvidia were making the best cards 2006-mid 2008, the current AMD line-up is the better than Nvidias offerings in most respects.



    I very much agree, anyone bashing ATI should have a read of this article:

    anandtech.com/vid…469

    Just about to buy an ATI 4850 which gives you 9800GTX performance for less money.

    John

    Here is what you want, a chart of all the graphics card currently on sale in a handy chart, not only that, but its from dec 2008!

    Graphics card chart (in hierarchy format!)

    tomshardware.com/rev…tml

    Pretty good chart I reckon.

    Original Poster

    spunklemonkey;3723056

    Here is what you want, a chart of all the graphics card currently on sale … Here is what you want, a chart of all the graphics card currently on sale in a handy chart, not only that, but its from dec 2008!Graphics card chart (in hierarchy format!)http://www.tomshardware.com/reviews/radeon-geforce-graphics,2086-7.htmlPretty good chart I reckon.


    Thanks. Ive been looking for something like that. It will definitely help me.

    Hi

    Great topic as I'm looking into this myself. Could someone clarify something for me please?

    If I install one of these what cable can I use to hook up to my tv (I'm after a card mainly for tv / movie playback on tv via pc)? Do I just use a standard HDMI or do I need a specific type?

    Many thanks (and forgive me sound a bit dense)
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