Found 18th Mar 2011
Why are people doing this?? They are a relatively rich country, in a better financial standing that the UK...

Why are people collecting and donating money for the relief efforts??? Are there really that many stupid naive people in the world donating??

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No, but I imagine there are generous, 'moved' people who feel they can do nothing other than donate in order to help.

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FrootCake

No, but I imagine there are generous, 'moved' people who feel they can do … No, but I imagine there are generous, 'moved' people who feel they can do nothing other than donate in order to help.



i.e. fools?

Maybe a little harsh, but it is like donating bread to Warburtons.
Edited by: "Chiptivo" 18th Mar 2011

well maybe people should give to me ......

Surely people can donate to whatever they want?

I agree there are better causes, in another thread I mentioned how people who were 'deriding' members for not donating should get off their high horses, I also feel that you shouldn't really moan/care

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Because not everyone is as selfish and self-centered as you? Regardless of weather they are a rich country or not, they have suffered a disaster that you and i could only imagine. The country is ruined; millions and millions of people have been effected by this. They need all the help they can get - sure we have our own problems with money etc but it is nothing compared to what these guys have to deal with. You would hope that if anything like that happened to us that the people of Japan would lend whatever help they could. It's called humanity.

Chiptivo

i.e. fools?Maybe a little harsh, but it is like donating bread to … i.e. fools?Maybe a little harsh, but it is like donating bread to Warburtons.




You do know that the situation in Japan is serious and ONGOING. That they had a debt crisis greater than that of the US (per capita) BEFORE these disasters, and that whatever you think of them, people will still give money/time/effort/whatever they feel able to - it's one of the wonderful aspects of humanity.

The country may be rich, but the people who have lost everything are not.

Funny. I was thinking the same last night. Same as India. HUGELY Rich but they also have mega poor areas (Why).

Does the money go to pay for the VOLUNTARY work carried out bythe Red Cross Etc?

I think that it just gives a lot of people a bit of 'Good Feel Factor' in the knowledge that they are actually doing something when most feel powerless to help.

Also the Japanese are really NICE peeps.:)


I would like to know how much those bank employees earning £1ml PLUS last year alone, are donating?

Edited by: "rizla01" 18th Mar 2011

Japan is the most debt-ridden developed nation, they are not rich!

If your country had 3 huge disasters in the such a short space of time, you'd want help too, bit of a selfish way of thinking.

Edited by: "richx45" 18th Mar 2011

I was discussing this last night. I feel sorry for the people of this tragedy, humbled by their situation and full of admiration at their dignity.

I feel i should do something but not sure if donating is the right thing.

I often feel this with many charities, i was discussing it due to the comic relief tv desert trek last night where they were raising money for eye ops they asked for £17 which would pay for one op. I would happily pay £17 to help someone in that situ, over and over, but i do not believe much of the money I donate would actually get to the intended people in need. And even then many of the governments in these countries are sitting on piles of money or using it for the wrong reasons.

Back to the initial question, i am sure the will be some way of registering wishes and thoughts or possibly helping a more directly involved charity. I do believe that japan is a proud national will not go begging, so if not a monetry donation ther must be a way of helping them via faith or time

I have decided to help closer to home, when bad things happen i try to give direct to an actual local charity, not one that is there mainly just to fund staff to advertise. They all need something, its not helping the people/persons i want to sometimes, but it does involve me helping someone in need and it restores my faith in myself a bit, backwards thinking i know, but it's just me odd

Edited by: "skellysgirl" 18th Mar 2011

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Regardless of where you are from at the end of the day we are all human beings. People donate because if something liek that happened to us they would hope other countries would rally round to support.

CoffeeMaker

It's called humanity.



Seriously couldnt have said it better myself, what i find ironic is its always the ones who ask why we are donating abroad that dont donate at all themselves to any charity whether home of abroad I bet thats the case with the op too

''Don't send any money in for the Tokyo tsunami appeal, they are minted, I have just seen a bloke on telly getting interviewed outside his house and he has two massive boats and an aeroplane on his drive...."

No seriously, It's your choice to donate, With out the donation's some of those charities wouldn't exist.




Japan dont need any money, Japan havent asked for any money, so why are people giving money?

garbage456

Japan dont need any money, Japan havent asked for any money, so why are … Japan dont need any money, Japan havent asked for any money, so why are people giving money?



because I'm on the global rich list hotukdeals.com/mis…270

It's difficult this one. Obviously you feel compelled to give, but this may be one of the times it would help to not give. Japan is going through a time of unhealthy saving levels (way too high) and (slight) deflation. This could be the trigger to change that and get them spending again.

Edit: Freakonomics have done a mini-blog on it here

Edited by: "emhaslam" 18th Mar 2011

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garbage456

Japan dont need any money, Japan havent asked for any money, so why are … Japan dont need any money, Japan havent asked for any money, so why are people giving money?



Because some people see something terrible happening and want to do something, but they can't do anything beyond giving money. If that makes them feel better and inadvertently helps people who have lost anything I don't really see the need to question it.

people shouldn't donate to Japan as they're already minted, i mean there was some bloke on the tv talking to a reporter and he had 2 boats on his drive !!!!

shauneco

''Don't send any money in for the Tokyo tsunami appeal, they are minted, … ''Don't send any money in for the Tokyo tsunami appeal, they are minted, I have just seen a bloke on telly getting interviewed outside his house and he has two massive boats and an aeroplane on his drive...."



I have often wondered what makes Japanese people tick.
Geiger counters.

BBC news: Japanese military drop tonnes of water on nuclear reactor.
Wasn't that the problem in the first place?

ITV News Reporter: '2,000,000 Japanese people left without water'
I don't think they've looked hard enough.

Sorry! Couldn't resist!

arcangel111

people shouldn't donate to Japan as they're already minted, i mean there … people shouldn't donate to Japan as they're already minted, i mean there was some bloke on the tv talking to a reporter and he had 2 boats on his drive !!!!




FAIL

omg - have a sense of humour !

arcangel111

omg - have a sense of humour !



Already posted, read up about ten minutes ago - hence the FAIL!! :P

maybe because through donating you will be supporting the countless international (including british) rescue workers, resources and charities essential to help people survive?

i dont think it quite works out that all these people just chip in and send the japanese a bill for the expenses at the end

for instance charities such as those survival boxes are produced in england and are imediately shipped out, i think a lot of it comes down to funding international support and resources, while japan could afford to do so they are not in the position to provide them and other countries do so at there own expense.. ur not just lining a countrys pockets by donating

its not quite like japan has been smashed up so were donating to pay to build it again, u donate for charities and resources which need funding to save peoples lives regardless of a countries economy..

arcangel111

http://www.hotukdeals.com/misc/saturday-night-joke-thread/897126/#post10832512check post 48 !!!



Is this going to turn into a Chandler/Ross joke thing?

What a complete moron! The country is in a state of emergency, suffereing from not only the worst earthquake they have experienced killling many, but on top of that a tsunami hitting the country as the after effect contributing further to the mass death. To top it off the country is trying to avoid a nuclear meltdown of their reactors which would cause a epic disaster effecting a worldwide community. A contribution by the rest of the world is not a bad thing as this is helping the PEOPLE of japan with food, shelter and everyday essentials like water.

On a global scale - japan, the 3rd biggest economy (if i rememebr correctly) in the world, and is highly dependant on exporting good as much as we are in importing them. For the country to be "on their knees" for an expended period of time is not good, globally as this would mean other countries are not able to financially grow at their predicted rate. The impact of this is that the markets such as the FTSE100, nasdaq, nikkei, etc. will all fall (as they have been due to increase in petrol prices and so on) leading to companies not being able make enough money, hence no jobs, which mean no money to the government, which means no money going back into the economy, which goes back to my earlier point..........breath.

From a humanitarian point of view, i find it incredibly selfish that someone can see such a disaster and then have the audacity to ask why people are helping. If helping others is too much to ask then please do not give anything, but dont post such a thread which make you look tighter than a ducks a$$
Edited by: "Rupz" 18th Mar 2011

as i don't know what that is .. you tell me

OP - if you watch the news you will realise that Japan has been dipping into it's own reserves - printing more money to help people out thus reducing the value of their currency

i may make light of the situation with a joke - but then in this day and age who doesn't??

I still think that the country is in need of any help .. whether it's monetary / food / physical aid ...

Do you think that if something of this magnitude happend in the UK we wouldn't want help ourselves ??

Banned

What happened to the guy who doesn't like the Japanese?

suspended ? ???

Banned

arcangel111

suspended ? ???



Harsh if for that.

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mumbojumbo

Ask yourself this question, OP - if the same happened in your town, would … Ask yourself this question, OP - if the same happened in your town, would you turn down the offer of aid and survival tools funded by charitable donations or would you just say, "No, thank you. Britain is quite wealthy already. I'll just wait for the local council to sort out some food and shelter."




The Japanese have not asked for our aid...

We are again interfereing to make our little donations make us individuals feel better, a nice warm feeling of "helping"...

p.s. the jokes on post 19 or 20 are sick..

Japan didn't ask for our aid. They didn't ask for an earthquake either but they got it anyway. If there ever comes a day where a natural disastor of this magnitude doesn't prompt the giving nature of our people then I hope I'm long dead.

In before the charity starts at home crap, ok well I was kinda expecting that line before now but anyway.

Charity does indeed start at home, and that home being planet earth and humanity.

I feel sorry though for other countries that seem to be ignored, like I watched that Ross Kemp extreme world covering the Congo and the going on's there, I found myself having to turn it off as it disturbed me, and I wouldn't be that easy disturbed. What about these countries that are living in a constant disaster, why are they not constantly being covered by the news channels??????

Of course help Japan and donate, all I am saying is that don't forget about the others that although may not be suffering from natural disasters but living ones.

That's all, must now drink alcohol

Mo786

Seriously couldnt have said it better myself, what i find ironic is its … Seriously couldnt have said it better myself, what i find ironic is its always the ones who ask why we are donating abroad that dont donate at all themselves to any charity whether home of abroad I bet thats the case with the op too




Because some of us like to make informed decisions based on research (questions) and fact whereas many more succumb to mindless emotions or guilt without thought.

I know which I would rather be.

Which one are you?
Edited by: "rizla01" 18th Mar 2011

lol someone moaning about people giving money to families who have lost there homes and all possessions.

what wont we moan about????

bloody charity it makes me sick

black gerbil1

lol someone moaning about people giving money to families who have lost … lol someone moaning about people giving money to families who have lost there homes and all possessions. what wont we moan about????



For once I am in total agreement with you BG. As I have stated in a couple of other threads today, I for one am tired of the moaning culture that has seeped its way into our culture; HUKD being a microcosm of that. It now seems socially acceptable to **** off, moan about and generally deride every one and everything.

Banned

op are you seriously retarded or is it a birth defect?

they as a nation are in debt the same as most

where people are getting they are "minted" from i have no idea, they are as "minted" as us but have just lost billions of dollars of revenue in various forms .....not to mention all the cash required to rebuild infrastructure, homes, businesses etc

lets hope you never have to deal with something like this in your life......

compassion? nah not in the uk..... petrol prices are too high and people need that new 3dtv and their fags......screw the needy oO


Original Poster

Sorry, about this thread. I as having a bad day.

I have just donated £100, better than nothing. If I had the ability to go and help in person, I would.
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