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    jay-z, what is the point of him?

    His last "song" was only good with the bits with Alicia keys singing on it and then you have him just shouting huh and yeah yeah every now and then and now his latest song is just an old one with him doing exactly the same, his songs only seem to be half decent when he isn't singing...its just noise

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    Agree, how the hell can he headline events too?
    Awful, rather Jedward headline Glasto than this prat.

    In B4 Gangsta's

    lol really got to agree with this one, how one can get so far with so little musical talent??, only kanye knows..

    Should change his name to Jay Zzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzz

    Read the lyrics?
    His old stuff is good?
    Hes trying new things like mixing genres?
    Hes original.
    Hes got some clever rhymes


    I reckon hes better than say N-Dubz lil wayne etc.

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    skusey;7158750

    Agree, how the hell can he headline events too?Awful, rather Jedward … Agree, how the hell can he headline events too?Awful, rather Jedward headline Glasto than this prat.In B4 Gangsta's



    yeah I steered well clear of the pyramid stage when he was on that year... but I think I'd also give jedward a miss too!

    maddogb;7158755

    lol really got to agree with this one, how one can get so far with so … lol really got to agree with this one, how one can get so far with so little musical talent??, only kanye knows..



    I have to agree.

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    Met-Cast;7158783

    Read the lyrics?His old stuff is good?Hes trying new things like mixing … Read the lyrics?His old stuff is good?Hes trying new things like mixing genres?Hes original.Hes got some clever rhymesI reckon hes better than say N-Dubz lil wayne etc.



    his old stuff is rubbish
    he's not trying new things it's a complete old song with him shouting every now and then
    see above
    so have chas and Dave, doesn't make them good;-)

    souljacker;7158843

    his old stuff is rubbishhe's not trying new things it's a complete old … his old stuff is rubbishhe's not trying new things it's a complete old song with him shouting every now and then see aboveso have chas and Dave, doesn't make them good;-)



    Nah I reckon his old stuffs not that bad.
    What song are you referring to? (apart from empire state of mind?)
    I find it pretty hard to do something like that you know.

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    the "new" one, I take it it's called forever young, that's what the original is called and it's not changed much

    lets be fair here, his album with linkin park was the nuts and he was rapping loads in that

    souljacker;7158899

    the "new" one, I take it it's called forever young, that's what the … the "new" one, I take it it's called forever young, that's what the original is called and it's not changed much



    agreed all about mr hudson in that one :thumbsup:

    dutch_courage;7158936

    agreed all about mr hudson in that one :thumbsup:

    op must be 50years old.

    Jigga Man.

    Hova.

    Raps greatful dead.

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    dutch_courage;7158924

    lets be fair here, his album with linkin park was the nuts and he was … lets be fair here, his album with linkin park was the nuts and he was rapping loads in that



    I'm not disputng he might be a decent rapper but the fact that his last two releases the best bits on them are not him, yet he calls it his song, empire state of mind was a great song until he ruined it with his huh huh and yeH yeahs

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    black gerbil1;7158947

    op must be 50years old.



    wrong, twenty years out... but I suppose his"music", can we call it that?, would appeal to you, what with you being 12

    souljacker;7158967

    I'm not disputng he might be a decent rapper but the fact that his last … I'm not disputng he might be a decent rapper but the fact that his last two releases the best bits on them are not him, yet he calls it his song, empire state of mind was a great song until he ruined it with his huh huh and yeH yeahs



    yeah i no what you mean but him being such a big artist, in his new songs he gives other talent a chance to shine in a way

    souljacker;7158967

    I'm not disputng he might be a decent rapper but the fact that his last … I'm not disputng he might be a decent rapper but the fact that his last two releases the best bits on them are not him, yet he calls it his song, empire state of mind was a great song until he ruined it with his huh huh and yeH yeahs



    Did you see how many akons songs are the same? Or how most of his songs are bout girls and the only good thing in most are the chorus yet ppl still buy it? All I'm saying is jay z deserves some respect I think he's contributed to rap

    Hold on - Listen to

    Jay - Z ft Chris Martin - Beach Chair

    Now that is a good song.

    Regardless of what you feel about the Jigga Man.

    Look at the facts:

    Aged 40
    Worth over $150m
    Sold over 40 million records.

    Got to be doing something right ey?

    He also signed up Rhianna which can't be bad.

    youtube.com/wat…1lQ - quality tune.

    Banned

    I like Jay-Z and his music a lot, but I can understand why some might not appreciate an African-American, multi-millionaire, multi-platinum artist married to Beyonce and one of the most successful/popular artists of the last 15 years.

    I was never THAT keen on his music, except the one with Linkin Park and a couple of his older songs, but I am LOVING Blueprint 3, its the first album of his I have actually bought, but then it does seem to be a general mix up of other artists, I don't like his voice in particular :thumbsup:

    He is a good producer or whatever you call it, definitely

    does the fact that a top artist like alicia keys wanting to work with him not show that he must be quite good?
    What is the point of him?,,,,,,,,,,,,, he makes music and millions of people buy it- most other rap artists mention him as the person who inspired them, i dont particularly like rap music but i can appreciate that he is top dog

    Not my kinda thing. Think i'd rather suffer the sound of someone's nails running down a blackboard, or gnaw on a wooly jumper with my teeth. Or even both together. But he's doing what he likes, and clearly a great proportion like what he does. He's also making a good lump out of it, so well done to him.

    Jay Zed has a purpose. He's keeping Beyonce warm for me - one day soon she'll realise that she really wants a 42yr old application packaging engineer with three children and a liking of BF2, Typhoo tea and rich tea biccies. So Jay Zed is just there to keep her lubricated unitil she realises that I'm her bootilicious luvva,

    I can't understand how anyone can doubt him, and for the semi-life forms questioning why he puts people on the hooks of songs, it's because it allows him to do well commercially, if Jay-Z sung the chorus to Run This Town or Empire State of Mind not only would it sound awful but the song wouldn't chart as well, try listening to a few other songs on Blueprint 3 if you want some variety.

    skusey;7158750

    Agree, how the hell can he headline events too?Awful, rather Jedward … Agree, how the hell can he headline events too?Awful, rather Jedward headline Glasto than this prat.In B4 Gangsta's



    black gerbil1;7158947

    op must be 50years old.



    FilthAndFurry;7159652

    I like Jay-Z and his music a lot, but I can understand why some might not … I like Jay-Z and his music a lot, but I can understand why some might not appreciate an African-American, multi-millionaire, multi-platinum artist married to Beyonce and one of the most successful/popular artists of the last 15 years.

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    beyonce is better

    i love jay-z'' music and fair play to him, he came from the dumps in America and look at him now...

    we all can't like the same music, it's all down to opinion.

    I have The Black Album on my ipod and love it.

    Classic album.

    Ungreat;7161094

    I have The Black Album on my ipod and love it.Classic album.



    Spinal Tap are good

    Banned

    I also resent the implication that if you like Jay-Z then you must be a 'gangsta'.

    It's that type of small-mindedness that was on show by some of the audience at Glastonbury, who walked away in 'protest' and missed one of the highlights of that year.

    Just looking at my own iTunes library and Jay-Z is surrounded by:

    The Jam
    Jeff Buckley
    James Horner
    Jimi Hendrix
    Jimmy Eat World
    John Mayer
    John Legend
    Johnny Cash

    paul_doh;7159536

    Look at the facts:Aged 40Worth over $150mSold over 40 million records.Got … Look at the facts:Aged 40Worth over $150mSold over 40 million records.Got to be doing something right ey?He also signed up Rhianna which can't be bad.http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=mAsqZTwp1lQ - quality tune.



    FilthAndFurry;7159652

    I like Jay-Z and his music a lot, but I can understand why some might not … I like Jay-Z and his music a lot, but I can understand why some might not appreciate an African-American, multi-millionaire, multi-platinum artist married to Beyonce and one of the most successful/popular artists of the last 15 years.



    so artistic integrity and talent is dictated by the amount of money you make?


    FilthAndFurry;7161254

    I also resent the implication that if you like Jay-Z then you must be a … I also resent the implication that if you like Jay-Z then you must be a 'gangsta'.It's that type of small-mindedness that was on show by some of the audience at Glastonbury, who walked away in 'protest' and missed one of the highlights of that year.Just looking at my own iTunes library and Jay-Z is surrounded by:The JamJeff BuckleyJames HornerJimi HendrixJimmy Eat WorldJohn MayerJohn LegendJohnny Cash



    seems to me someones musical taste is dictated by what is not POP..

    maddogb;7161625

    so artistic integrity and talent is dictated by the amount of money you … so artistic integrity and talent is dictated by the amount of money you make?seems to me someones musical taste is dictated by what is not POP..



    so your saying JayZ is not talented? after all he has done in the music industry?

    Banned

    maddogb;7161625

    seems to me someones musical taste is dictated by what is not POP..



    Or maybe there's a bias against musicians with first names beginning with 'J':roll:

    If your point was indeed serious, can you get much more 'pop' than Jay-Z?

    i have jay-Z on my ipod just now, beside pink floyd, u2, beach boys, bob marley, chemical bothers, GLC , rollin stones and even susan boyle. now theres a mix

    dre1988;7161764

    so your saying JayZ is not talented? after all he has done in the music … so your saying JayZ is not talented? after all he has done in the music industry?



    oh he's a very talented businessman, of that there's no doubt as for musical talent, are you kidding really??
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