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    Just bought a new number plate. Same as old one but loosk different

    As stated. Its for my motorbike. Its 8X6 (standard is 9x7) and the font is not the standard font. What are your views on illegal number plates etc????
    Image below....Discuss

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    Original Poster

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    Original

    http://img530.imageshack.us/img530/6852/untitledxo9.jpg
    My new one

    My view on illegal number plates is that they are illegal, period.

    I personally don't like your new one. I prefer the old font.
    I can't stand those number plates that use such a crazy font you can't work out what it says.
    And as for some of the "personalized" ones, some of them are soooo vague, I think people have got more money than sense.
    The only personalized number plate I would pay for is "PH 1L".

    :thumbsup:

    My view is I should never have sold it as I never got pulled in a year of It being "illegal" :roll:

    Does give the old bill an excuse to pull you over though, even if you were only doing 41 in a 40:whistling: especially on a bike:thumbsup:

    The font actualy looks clearer, your problems lie in whether or not ANPR systems are able to read it or not, non conforming plates will lead to a £30 penalty each time you get pulled up. Also size wise there is no actual definition on overall size, but the lettering itself must be the correct size with the correct spacing and have the minimum margins around them.

    [FONT=Myriad Web]
    The attitude is changing. Traffic cars are being fitted with Automatic Number Plate Readers (ANPR’s) to combat tax fraud and cut down on run around cars that in the long run costs us all money. Your number plate must conform to BS AU 145a or 145d by

    Containing Black characters on a yellow background in the Arial Font
    Characters must be 64mm high
    Characters must be 44mm wide with the exclusion to the letter “I” or number “1”
    Characters must be 10mm apart with a 30mm gap between letters and number groups
    Plates must contain the plate makers name and/or ID marking PLUS the name and postcode of the dealer/franchise you bought the bike from.
    Custom riders – black plates with white or silver characters are illegal on models registered after 31 December 1972. If you had your bike before this chances are you’re ok!
    All plates should have an external margin of 11mm.[/FONT]

    Original Poster

    thanks for your views. My new one does look better IMO as its bolder (cops cant complain except for the plate size) lol and my old one has got where the previous owner got it from which i hate as it looks tatty lol

    Original Poster

    harlzter;2593413

    The font actualy looks clearer, your problems lie in whether or not ANPR … The font actualy looks clearer, your problems lie in whether or not ANPR systems are able to read it or not, non conforming plates will lead to a £30 penalty each time you get pulled up. Also size wise there is no actual definition on overall size, but the lettering itself must be the correct size with the correct spacing and have the minimum margins around them.[FONT=Myriad Web] The attitude is changing. Traffic cars are being fitted with Automatic Number Plate Readers (ANPR’s) to combat tax fraud and cut down on run around cars that in the long run costs us all money. Your number plate must conform to BS AU 145a or 145d by Containing Black characters on a yellow background in the Arial Font Characters must be 64mm high Characters must be 44mm wide with the exclusion to the letter “I” or number “1” Characters must be 10mm apart with a 30mm gap between letters and number groups Plates must contain the plate makers name and/or ID marking PLUS the name and postcode of the dealer/franchise you bought the bike from. Custom riders – black plates with white or silver characters are illegal on models registered after 31 December 1972. If you had your bike before this chances are you’re ok! All plates should have an external margin of 11mm.[/FONT]



    thanks for the info. interesting. (i see you changed your avatar aswell lol)

    Why did you feel the need to get a new number plate?

    Original Poster

    The JFK;2593428

    Why did you feel the need to get a new number plate?


    samwhitewick;2593415

    its bolder (cops cant complain except for the plate size) lol and my old … its bolder (cops cant complain except for the plate size) lol and my old one has got where the previous owner got it from which i hate as it looks tatty lol


    and also i wanted to personalise my bike and the old plate has got rusty kinda marks on it lol

    Just don't come on here complaining that the old bill keep stopping you .. it is pathetic to mess with number plates, personally I think every vehicle caught with them should be crushed.

    Cant wait till i pass and get my private plate

    So Sam, is what you are doing illegal?

    You may get stopped for that, and it is a £30 fine as mentioned above, but usually you'll get let off with a warning.

    Original Poster

    Inactive;2593772

    Just don't come on here complaining that the old bill keep stopping you … Just don't come on here complaining that the old bill keep stopping you .. it is pathetic to mess with number plates, personally I think every vehicle caught with them should be crushed.


    thanks for your thought. I think its just nice to personalise it.

    MarzBarz;2593783

    Cant wait till i pass and get my private plate


    I was thinking of getting "S44 MWW" to make "S44M WW" but it was £250 :x

    The JFK;2593791

    So Sam, is what you are doing illegal?



    Yes:roll:

    galactico;2593927

    You may get stopped for that, and it is a £30 fine as mentioned above, … You may get stopped for that, and it is a £30 fine as mentioned above, but usually you'll get let off with a warning.



    Yeh gonna run the risk :whistling: (I like your cream avatar btw!)

    Don't see the point in giving the cops a reason to stop you every time they see you. Even f you do get off with a warning every time surely its not worth the hassle?!

    MarzBarz;2593783

    Cant wait till i pass and get my private plate



    What you looking to get? I got one!!! :whistling:

    Original Poster

    littletiger;2596002

    Don't see the point in giving the cops a reason to stop you every time … Don't see the point in giving the cops a reason to stop you every time they see you. Even f you do get off with a warning every time surely its not worth the hassle?!



    i see your point. A bit 50/50...Doy you get a number plate, personlised and different...but then cops can pull you over and maybe fine you...or keep the original (boring imo) and not get pulled????

    Mines is hopefully going to be

    DA51 BBY

    DAS IBBY sik or what lol. In other words thats ibby in his ....

    samwhitewick;2596385

    i see your point. A bit 50/50...Doy you get a number plate, personlised … i see your point. A bit 50/50...Doy you get a number plate, personlised and different...but then cops can pull you over and maybe fine you...or keep the original (boring imo) and not get pulled????



    Depends on how much you value your licence.:roll:

    I can't see the point in changing the plate to be illegal - as others have said why give the police a reason to pull you over? Personally I don't like your new font it seems 'stunted' - but that's just my view. I'm sure there were other things you could have done to personalise the bike.

    I put a tail tidy on mine & put a 7 x 5 plate on with the manufacturers logo on the side. Looks 10x better & never been pulled (even when police have been behind me).

    They will only pull you if you take the p*ss with them (i.e. single line plates), or attract attention to yourself if your being a n*b.

    They do have clampdowns at times though (especially bike meets), but hey, whats £30 !! Had mine 12 months now with no worries

    Just keep the old one for MOT time

    Original Poster

    ChrisUK;2601160

    I put a tail tidy on mine & put a 7 x 5 plate on with the manufacturers … I put a tail tidy on mine & put a 7 x 5 plate on with the manufacturers logo on the side. Looks 10x better & never been pulled (even when police have been behind me).They will only pull you if you take the p*ss with them (i.e. single line plates), or attract attention to yourself if your being a n*b. They do have clampdowns at times though (especially bike meets), but hey, whats £30 !! Had mine 12 months now with no worries :)Just keep the old one for MOT time



    thankyou...you have helped so much...have some rep!

    Right for those who want to see my new plate.....

    ]http://img2.uploadhouse.com/fileuploads/2270/2270784bb4114470b9f8a41fa12f41ea10e5f1a.jpg

    VS Old:
    ]http://img7.uploadhouse.com/fileuploads/2270/2270785de9b1a70c80ea56e6fbbd440a7d624cb.jpg

    My old one i just elasticated round the new one..thats why its wonky :roll:. Sorry about th lighting issue. (oh and i covered up the letters lol. they are really there)

    They are now checking registration plate at MOT time and failing any that do not comply with the standards.

    They're starting to toughen up recently so the ANPR's can get you. All in the name of terrorism of course :roll:

    Thought you said it was for a motorbike:whistling:

    Why have you got a bean can with a straw poking out grafted to the side:whistling:

    Banned

    pity you dont live down my way as you would get a £30 every time I saw you on the road, its fails to conform, and its a pity you think your above the law .. more reason why you WILL get stopped and in the end it WILL cost you lots of money

    harlzter;2604201

    Thought you said it was for a motorbike:whistling:



    :-D 9/10 for lol factor :thumbsup:

    dog_cop;2604236

    pity you dont live down my way as you would get a £30 every time I saw … pity you dont live down my way as you would get a £30 every time I saw you on the road, its fails to conform, and its a pity you think your above the law .. more reason why you WILL get stopped and in the end it WILL cost you lots of money



    Oh look at the big bad policeman that will pull you everytime he see's you because your number plate does not conform, same as always the motorist is an easy target, why bother catching real criminals when you can fine motorists. Bet the area you police is a safe area to live with you spending all your time catching the big bad motorist!

    My opinion for what is worth is that the new number plate is easier to read so where exactly is the problem, i can understand pulling the cars with fancy italic writing etc but lets be honest this is easier to read!

    PrideandPassion;2604514

    My opinion for what is worth is that the new number plate is easier to … My opinion for what is worth is that the new number plate is easier to read so where exactly is the problem, i can understand pulling the cars with fancy italic writing etc but lets be honest this is easier to read!



    Easier for the human eye, but what about the ANPR systems? When a non-conforming plate is picked up and flagged as unreadable this takes up police time and resources so a fine is a logical step. The ANPR's a an excellent idea as they not only flag up dodgy plates but untaxed and uninsured cars, which are often used by criminals as transport when commiting crime, its not about the police pulling you solely for your plate, the system would collapse if people where allowed to use any font on their plates without punishment.

    So is the motorist just an easy target, or is there more than meets the eye?

    Original Poster

    PrideandPassion;2604514

    Oh look at the big bad policeman that will pull you everytime he see's … Oh look at the big bad policeman that will pull you everytime he see's you because your number plate does not conform, same as always the motorist is an easy target, why bother catching real criminals when you can fine motorists. Bet the area you police is a safe area to live with you spending all your time catching the big bad motorist!My opinion for what is worth is that the new number plate is easier to read so where exactly is the problem, i can understand pulling the cars with fancy italic writing etc but lets be honest this is easier to read!



    thats my thinking. I can understand if they pull motorbikes over with a very thin horizontal rectangle numberplate. But this is actually easier to read! If they crack down on number plates like this...then why don't they crack down on people with one headlight/rear light...you look like a motorbike the pitch black!

    Rant over!

    I will keep the old number plate for MOT. And yes...it is a motorbike....doesnt look like a moped :whistling::w00t:

    and most ANPRs only get front facing number plates!

    harlzter;2604745

    Easier for the human eye, but what about the ANPR systems? When a … Easier for the human eye, but what about the ANPR systems? When a non-conforming plate is picked up and flagged as unreadable this takes up police time and resources so a fine is a logical step. The ANPR's a an excellent idea as they not only flag up dodgy plates but untaxed and uninsured cars, which are often used by criminals as transport when commiting crime, its not about the police pulling you solely for your plate, the system would collapse if people where allowed to use any font on their plates without punishment.So is the motorist just an easy target, or is there more than meets the eye?



    I am sure the ANPR's are sophisticated enough to pick up the bolder font, i recently drove a friends car who has mis spaced his letters and uses illegal font and the NCP car park number plate reader was able to read his reg plate so i am sure the ANPR's use similar software/technology, as i said this is all about generating revenue. You talk about wasting police time, well in my opionion the copper who made the bold statement "i would pull you everytime i seen you" is surely a waste of his resourses and he should be out catching the real criminals instead of targetting the minor law breaker -the biker with his number plate that does not conform!

    Also while on this subject why do the DVLA sell number plates that are obviously going to be mis spaced therefore making them illegal? If the DVLA never sold these types of plates the problem of mis spacing would go away but then the government would not earn money from the sale of these plates, i could go on forever about this :x
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