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    Just installed UBUNTU

    Awesome program, where have you been all my life Ubuntu?????????????????

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    Plotting ways to seriously disappoint you over the course of the coming hours / days until you get bored of having to google around for command-line scripts that you have to run so you can recompile your kernel and add a small chunk of code that lets you do something so painfully basic that Win98 could handle it.

    Considering the current version is 8.10, shouldn't the question rather be where have you been during all of ubuntu's life?

    dxx;4153795

    Plotting ways to seriously disappoint you over the course of the coming … Plotting ways to seriously disappoint you over the course of the coming hours / days until you get bored of having to google around for command-line scripts that you have to run so you can recompile your kernel and add a small chunk of code that lets you do something so painfully basic that Win98 could handle it.



    Why would there be any need of recompiling the kernel (at least not for the average user)?

    And what exactly would be so much easier under Win compared to Linux?

    UBUNTU Cola ROCKS!

    Original Poster

    Just need to get my newsbin pro running and all is good with life.
    Happy days.

    Original Poster

    pidgin lol.
    so many free programs lol
    4 thumbs
    :thumbsup::thumbsup::thumbsup::thumbsup:

    dxx;4153795

    Plotting ways to seriously disappoint you over the course of the coming … Plotting ways to seriously disappoint you over the course of the coming hours / days until you get bored of having to google around for command-line scripts that you have to run so you can recompile your kernel and add a small chunk of code that lets you do something so painfully basic that Win98 could handle it.



    I fully agree, I used v7 when it came out and after 2 days got rid. I couldn't even make it move a file from one drive to another with incomprehensible errors about root passwords which wasn't in the faq or the help files...

    Nice idea, poor implementation.

    schaf;4153808

    Considering the current version is 8.10, shouldn't the question rather be … Considering the current version is 8.10, shouldn't the question rather be where have you been during all of ubuntu's life?



    Which does not mean its the 8th version. The numbers are got from the release year.month

    So this ubuntu was released in October 2008.

    matt3454;4155031

    Which does not mean its the 8th version. The numbers are got from the … Which does not mean its the 8th version. The numbers are got from the release year.monthSo this ubuntu was released in October 2008.



    Although coincidentally that is the 8th version I think (6 month release cycle...). Actually I'm wrong, its the 9th version (Intrepid Ibex - the first letter of the codename is the release, hence I=9th version)

    steve1221;4154989

    I fully agree, I used v7 when it came out and after 2 days got rid. I … I fully agree, I used v7 when it came out and after 2 days got rid. I couldn't even make it move a file from one drive to another with incomprehensible errors about root passwords which wasn't in the faq or the help files...Nice idea, poor implementation.



    It really isn't a poor implementation - you're just too used to Windows... Unix based operating systems are in general far better on so many levels that Microsoft operating systems, and the root password is no different in principle to the UAC on Vista

    jah128;4155280

    It really isn't a poor implementation - you're just too used to … It really isn't a poor implementation - you're just too used to Windows... Unix based operating systems are in general far better on so many levels that Microsoft operating systems, and the root password is no different in principle to the UAC on Vista



    I fully accept that I maybe at fault, BUT after 2 days of using it not only could I not move a single file from one drive to another I couldn't even find HOW to do it. This is reading all the info I could find and asking on a number of forums.

    You have to admit that if you load windows (Vista, XP, whatever) you can just drag and drop and you're done in a few seconds. . .

    steve1221;4155532

    I fully accept that I maybe at fault, BUT after 2 days of using it not … I fully accept that I maybe at fault, BUT after 2 days of using it not only could I not move a single file from one drive to another I couldn't even find HOW to do it. This is reading all the info I could find and asking on a number of forums.You have to admit that if you load windows (Vista, XP, whatever) you can just drag and drop and you're done in a few seconds. . .



    You can just drag and drop in ubuntu!

    schaf;4153819

    Why would there be any need of recompiling the kernel (at least not for … Why would there be any need of recompiling the kernel (at least not for the average user)?And what exactly would be so much easier under Win compared to Linux?



    Last time I used (and subsequently gave up on within hours, ala my previous post), I needed to recompile the kernel to do, well, pretty much anything fun, or vaguely useful. The main example that sticks in my mind is the requirement to recompile the kernel so I could use my PCI ADSL modem. In fact, in answer to both of your questions, check this out: patrick.spacesurfer.com/lin…tml

    Although, in fuller answer to your second question: everything. Absolutey everything. Under Linux, you either run Windows software with some struggle and with diminished performance and random extra bugs, or you run free software, with silly names, and cripplingly absurd bugs and guff user interfaces. Like Open Office, which is just an absolute mess, with so many bugs that I discovered three within the first (and last, ever) ten minutes of use.

    It's just a big bag of jobbie.

    steve1221;4154989

    I fully agree, I used v7 when it came out and after 2 days got rid. I … I fully agree, I used v7 when it came out and after 2 days got rid. I couldn't even make it move a file from one drive to another with incomprehensible errors about root passwords which wasn't in the faq or the help files...Nice idea, poor implementation.



    Innit.

    I do like Linux' file security and everything, but I do see it as a major design flaw that no-one's thought to add a button marked as "JUST F*CKING DO IT" to every error popup box. Perhaps, for security, it could be tied in with a voice recognition service that only enables the button if it detects enough loudly shouted swear words in the registered owner's accent.

    Maybe something to add in Ubuntu 9, that.

    dxx;4157677

    Although, in fuller answer to your second question: everything. Absolutey … Although, in fuller answer to your second question: everything. Absolutey everything. Under Linux, you either run Windows software with some struggle and with diminished performance and random extra bugs, or you run free software, with silly names, and cripplingly absurd bugs and guff user interfaces. Like Open Office, which is just an absolute mess, with so many bugs that I discovered three within the first (and last, ever) ten minutes of use.



    So what exactly has this got to do with Windows/Linux (the operating systems)??

    dxx;4157677

    Last time I used (and subsequently gave up on within hours, ala my … Last time I used (and subsequently gave up on within hours, ala my previous post), I needed to recompile the kernel to do, well, pretty much anything fun, or vaguely useful. The main example that sticks in my mind is the requirement to recompile the kernel so I could use my PCI ADSL modem. In fact, in answer to both of your questions, check this out: http://patrick.spacesurfer.com/linux_conexant_pci_adsl.htmlAlthough, in fuller answer to your second question: everything. Absolutey everything. Under Linux, you either run Windows software with some struggle and with diminished performance and random extra bugs, or you run free software, with silly names, and cripplingly absurd bugs and guff user interfaces. Like Open Office, which is just an absolute mess, with so many bugs that I discovered three within the first (and last, ever) ten minutes of use. It's just a big bag of jobbie.



    Thats just not true though. At work we've had 3 systems running without reboot, at 100% CPU load since 8.10 was released. That simply couldn't be done with a Windows system. Remember each release of Windows generates $50billion of revenue; a Ubuntu release generates virtually zero, yet they make a more stable OS with far greater uptime, better resource handling and generally better security...

    Its not Ubuntu's fault that most drivers are written exclusively for Windows by the manufacturer. Wired network support is very good in Linux 2.6 kernels, wireless is not bad but not amazing - very few people use PCI based ADSL modems anyway! Yes its frustrating if you don't have 100% hardware support out the box so to speak, but with more systems then ever before you do with 8.10 - and when you do its an excellent, stable, FREE operating system which has a much easier to use free software base than Windows ever will....

    For doing *real work* on I use it several hours a day without ever seeing an 'error box'. I get better remote access for free than paid-for Windows software will ever give me, and above all I can know my own software will reliably run on it with efficient resource management without it needing to reboot for months on end... And when you're talking about performance - what do you base that on - I can give you countless examples of code which executes substantially faster on *nix systems written in C??, Java, Python etc than Windows can manage due to a far more efficient Kernel and less pointless bloat...

    schaf;4157752

    So what exactly has this got to do with Windows/Linux (the operating … So what exactly has this got to do with Windows/Linux (the operating systems)??



    Everything. Stop thinking about Windows and Linux as just being operating systems but environments. Thinking of Windows or Linux as an OS in the traditional runs software / hardware is very old-fashioned and totally obsolete these days.

    dxx;4158496

    Everything. Stop thinking about Windows and Linux as just being operating … Everything. Stop thinking about Windows and Linux as just being operating systems but environments. Thinking of Windows or Linux as an OS in the traditional runs software / hardware is very old-fashioned and totally obsolete these days.



    Think you need to explain what you mean more there....

    Original Poster

    Still loving it, sound is so much louder on my laptop with ubuntu system is so much smoother and also to install anything there is a search button in add remove programs now and it searches all Linux software and installs automatically, good times. :thumbsup:

    esq3585;4158557

    Still loving it, sound is so much louder on my laptop with ubuntu system … Still loving it, sound is so much louder on my laptop with ubuntu system is so much smoother and also to install anything there is a search button in add remove programs now and it searches all linux software and instalsl automatically, good times. :thumbsup:



    If you go to System -> Administration -> Synaptic Package Manager you'll find even more than the Add/Remove packages. If there is any particular sort of program you're after ask and I'll recommend something! (and its all just a 1-click install - miles ahead of Windows and OS-X in that regard, and all free!)

    Install Compiz for your graphics and you can have all the 'fancy' features of Aero (Vista) or OS-X and then some...

    Original Poster

    Got the compiz cube going but the bottom is plain colours,looking to put an image on there, any ideas?

    I must admit I'm a ubuntu convert. I only first used it because I got it pre-installed on my Dell Mini9 (£99, thank you hukd) and the XP install looked more work than I could be bothered with, so thought I'd give it a go first.
    It did take a bit of getting used to, such as installing the programs etc but the more I do the more I find things which are amazing. The duel desktop for instance - brilliant idea. The 'create launcher' function is genius, and allowed me to get skype up and running. My favourite ubuntu feature (so far) is when you are browsing music files under your 'home' menu. You just have to hover your pointer over it and it starts playing. So when making a cd or 'mixtape' theres no need to have to refer to a seperate program.

    Just one problem which someone might be able to solve, how do I get flash/java working on websites?

    jah128;4155973

    You can just drag and drop in ubuntu!



    And when you drop you get a message saying you don't have root permission, please enter root password . . .

    steve1221;4160620

    And when you drop you get a message saying you don't have root … And when you drop you get a message saying you don't have root permission, please enter root password . . .



    Which is your password you entered when you set the thing up......no different to UAC.

    Unless you're trying to shift something to a protected area of the system, in which case it's for your own protection so you don't balls the OS up.

    megalomaniac;4160657

    Which is your password you entered when you set the thing up......no … Which is your password you entered when you set the thing up......no different to UAC.Unless you're trying to shift something to a protected area of the system, in which case it's for your own protection so you don't balls the OS up.



    Not that it matters now as this was a year ago, but I didn't enter a password at any point nor was I prompted for one at setup. . .

    steve1221;4161465

    Not that it matters now as this was a year ago, but I didn't enter a … Not that it matters now as this was a year ago, but I didn't enter a password at any point nor was I prompted for one at setup. . .



    You can't create an account without a password in Ubuntu? I take it you are talking about a full install, not just running the Live CD...

    jah128;4161968

    not just running the Live CD...



    :giggle: aren't read only file systems brilliant.

    Indeed.
    Yes, running form a live cd. Had to transfer 2 files from a win XP install that had crashed, was told that this was the best way to do it.
    The 2 files were on the root of C:, so nothing to do with Ubuntu. After 2 days gave up and used a live XP disc and did it in 3 minutes... If there's a root password on the live cds why do they hid it ? and why did no one on any of the linux forums know about it. And if I'm not moving anything from the linux disc, what's the issue any way ?
    There's a moral there if you want there to be. . .

    steve1221;4163437

    There's a moral there if you want there to be. . .



    Indeed.

    steve1221;4163437

    Had to transfer 2 files from a win XP install that had crashed. . .

    Can't argue with that

    I should add it wasn't my computer but a work colleague who'd downloaded a very impressive number of viruses that had attached to system files.

    Even so, if a cd is marked as a linux recovery cd you'd really expect it to be able to recover a file or two ?
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