KIDS THAI KICK / BOXING CUTTING EDGE LAST NIGHT

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Found 25th Apr 2008
Anyone else see this last night. Most of prog showed lads above 7 fighting but some bits showed kids not much above 3 (girls and boys) fighting with the parents screaming on the side. I know a lot of people who do various types of martial arts which requires a high level of skill and discipline. There can be no reason for starting as young as this.

What I saw last night was totally disgusting. Even the older lads games were a shambles because they were supposed to be playing to rules eg no head punches, that didn't last long. Protective gear or not, how can parents justify this in those too young to know any different.

The parents faces made me feel phsically sick. I know it was all down to clever editing, no excuse for parents to use their kids as bait for this

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I was watching the uefa cup semi final and forgot to record this.

While I understand kids having hobbies etc, what 3-4 year old asks their parents if they can go to "kick-boxing" club?

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apparently, they all love it
the tears were just stage fright then!
my advice don't watch it. Not good for blood pressure

I didn't watch but seen it advertised and both me and my partner thought it seemed pretty unacceptable,they were bit too young really some of them.
Parents are pushing them into it,noway are the 3 yrs olds coming out with it,unless they seen others in the family into it in 1st place. It's not the sort of thing 3yr olds going ask to do,play football,go to park is somethings but certainly not this.
But each to their own.I just hope the children keep it to their club and don't involve others at school.

andrewnclark;1966257

I was watching the uefa cup semi final and forgot to record … I was watching the uefa cup semi final and forgot to record this.[COLOR="Blue"]C4 +1 (luckily I remembered, lol)[/COLOR]While I understand kids having hobbies etc, what 3-4 year old asks their parents if they can go to "kick-boxing" club?[COLOR="blue"]Probably the same ones that want to kill celebrities !!!! [/COLOR]



It was very distressing to see. A parent that took his 7/8 year old all the way to Thailand just so the boy could fight the traditional way with blows and kicks to the head.

And as for the little girls who just wanted to play with her dolls................................

What on earth posseses people, beyond belief. :x :x

Well yeh bit sexist but I can't imagine any girls doing this at all,my Cerys certainly wouldn't be interested in slightest.

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No sane parent would put a child of any sex into a ring to fight.....would they

My celebrity death thread is purely theoretical and no real celebrities were harmed in its making....

What age do kids usually train for their sports?

Gymnasts? Football players? even circus acts?

Boxing is violent but if they don't train at that age, they will most likely not succeed in the future.

Slash;1966352

What age do kids usually train for their sports?Gymnasts? Football … What age do kids usually train for their sports?Gymnasts? Football players? even circus acts?Boxing is violent but if they don't train at that age, they will most likely not succeed in the future.



I understand this point of view, however I think the issue here is the venom with which these parents are pushing their kids.... the looks on their faces on the trailer for this show was horrific!

I started doing Karate at 4. Would not have changed it for the world. Excellent way to get kids fit and diciplined from an early age.

I didnt see the program but I loved it when I was doing it growing up and it taught me alot.

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Slash;1966352

What age do kids usually train for their sports? Gymnasts? Football … What age do kids usually train for their sports? Gymnasts? Football players? even circus acts? Boxing is violent but if they don't train at that age, they will most likely not succeed in the future.


Well thats OK then, how about when they can stand up....aged 1. Got to get the olympians of the future...
I know nothing about boxing but they don't start boxing before at least aged 7. Kids will always copy and do movements, but how many physical contact sports begin before age 7

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[quote=Toybhoy;1966406]I started doing Karate at 4. Would not have changed it for the world. Excellent way to get kids fit and diciplined from an early age. [quote]

Nothing against all these types of sports. But how many of them involved fist fighting at aged 3?

andrewnclark;1966401

I understand this point of view, however I think the issue here is the … I understand this point of view, however I think the issue here is the venom with which these parents are pushing their kids.... the looks on their faces on the trailer for this show was horrific!



Exactly !

I watched & thought it was way over the top !
I certainly wouldn't of wanted one of mine doing it !:w00t:
...... though I do think all 'kids' should be taught how to fight & defend themselves.
I hate to say it but at times it looked as though it was done for the ''parents enjoyment'' ..

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snowtiger;1966457

though I do think all 'kids' should be taught how to fight & defend … though I do think all 'kids' should be taught how to fight & defend themselves.



God, not like this

Yes very sad lives, those parents

Yes I agree, i watched it, much against my husbands wishes as I just got angrier and more disgusted as it went on, as I knew I probabl would, but for heavens sake, it's too young. RRRRR :evil:

snowtiger;1966457

I watched & thought it was way over the top ! I certainly wouldn't of … I watched & thought it was way over the top ! I certainly wouldn't of wanted one of mine doing it !:w00t:...... though I do think all 'kids' should be taught how to fight & defend themselves.I hate to say it but at times it looked as though it was done for the ''parents enjoyment'' ..



Yeh bit like in America with the pageant contests they have with girls,they always OTT aswell and all for the parents,specially the Mums,they go crazy with it.

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Mum2Connor&Cerys;1966489

Yeh bit like in America with the pageant contests they have with … Yeh bit like in America with the pageant contests they have with girls,they always OTT aswell and all for the parents,specially the Mums,they go crazy with it.



Totally gross and they will suffer just as much psychological damage no doubt but it is the physical side that upsets me, how can parents let that happen to their toddlers

iglimpse;1966420

Well thats OK then, how about when they can stand up....aged 1. Got to … Well thats OK then, how about when they can stand up....aged 1. Got to get the olympians of the future...



It all depends on the background of the families. Most parents would not put their kids through these training. But some opt to choose this path for their children for glory. For those that choose this path for their kids' future, of course they need to start at a young age because they don't have much time to win as they get older. Age is an important factor in these kind of sports and especially the olympics...

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Slash;1966607

It all depends on the background of the families. Most parents would not … It all depends on the background of the families. Most parents would not put their kids through these training. But some opt to choose this path for their children for glory. For those that choose this path for their kids' future, of course they need to start at a young age because they don't have much time to win as they get older. Age is an important factor in these kind of sports and especially the olympics...



Agree, age is an important factor. But when that sport happens to involve punching and kicking each other (in a hap hazard way, as you would expect of toddlers), then such a young age is wrong.

I take it you did not see the prog?

iglimpse;1966638

Agree, age is an important factor. But when that sport happens to … Agree, age is an important factor. But when that sport happens to involve punching and kicking each other (in a hap hazard way, as you would expect of toddlers), then such a young age is wrong. I take it you did not see the prog?




As much as we don't agree with young children being put into such physical training at a young age, there might not be another way around it. As was already talked about, the age is a very important factor in their respective world. And I would assume the family background plays a huge part in their decision for choosing this path for their children. What can the parents do...wait until the child is old enough to make their own decision? What age would be the consent? Those families might not have the luxury of waiting for the kids to make up their mind and even if they do, the kids might be too old to make anything out of their remaining years in the sport.

Would I ever dream of putting my kids in those training? No way. But what I can only do is to put myself in those parent's perspective to analyse this.

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Slash;1966816

As much as we don't agree with young children being put into such … As much as we don't agree with young children being put into such physical training at a young age, there might not be another way around it. As was already talked about, the age is a very important factor in their respective world. And I would assume the family background plays a huge part in their decision for choosing this path for their children. What can the parents do...wait until the child is old enough to make their own decision? What age would be the consent? Those families might not have the luxury of waiting for the kids to make up their mind and even if they do, the kids might be too old to make anything out of their remaining years in the sport. Would I ever dream of putting my kids in those training? No way. But what I can only do is to put myself in those parent's perspective to analyse this.



There is a way round it, don't subject your kids to it. Even if they are very keen, let them hunger for it. We are talking about under 7's here, not pre teenage.

You seem to be justifying it on the grounds of skilled sports. There can be no justification letting toddlers batter 7 bells out of each other, absolutely none.

I know you are playing devils advocate here but if you saw the agression on the faces of those parents last night, you would wonder whether they had brain cells, never mind perspective

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thej;1966911

Didn't see it myself but workmates were talking about it,didn't one of … Didn't see it myself but workmates were talking about it,didn't one of the parents scream at their kid to kick the others head in.If so,it sound like a great thing to get your child into.(big hint of sarcasm).



I can guarantee there will be clubs springing up all over the place, nothing like the oxygen of publicity. And...getting harder to keep pit bull terriers these days anyway.

Just a case of living out your dreams through your kids in my opinion.
Just awful and with the looks the parents were giving, I would imagine the kids are way to scared to tell them that they don't want to do it any more.
I feel sorry for the kids.

I saw the last 20 minutes and only watched because 2 things were already recording on the Sky+, but I was entranced by the horror of it and I demeaned myself by continuing to watch it until the end.
The parents were apalling and the children - Connor and Thai - were grotesque characateurs of prancing egoistic 'celebrities'. It was soul-suckingly desperate, especially when the two little guys were slugging it out in a cage and the audience of 1,000 were screaming. Why on earth would all those people turn out and presumably pay to watch? What a dreadful exhibition.

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chesso;1967904

I saw the last 20 minutes and only watched because 2 things were already … I saw the last 20 minutes and only watched because 2 things were already recording on the Sky+, but I was entranced by the horror of it and I demeaned myself by continuing to watch it until the end. The parents were apalling and the children - Connor and Thai - were grotesque characateurs of prancing egoistic 'celebrities'. It was soul-suckingly desperate, especially when the two little guys were slugging it out in a cage and the audience of 1,000 were screaming. Why on earth would all those people turn out and presumably pay to watch? What a dreadful exhibition.



Be glad you missed the first part, with two girls approxage 3 slugging it out in the ring

i think a few parents need a kicking

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Zwrnsa;1968008

i think a few parents need a kicking



:w00t: What a brilliant idea. Can we have a follow up prog next week. Alll the parents in the ring.. Best thing I have heard all day :-D

iglimpse;1967959

Be glad you missed the first part, with two girls approxage 3 slugging … Be glad you missed the first part, with two girls approxage 3 slugging it out in the ring



How sad. What empty lives these people must have and I always think when I have happened upon these progs - what has possessed them to appear like that on TV? It is just shameful. How can a so-called civilised society have had this affect on them??

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Twins aged 5
Darren is so passionate about the sport that he has now converted the spare room into a gym so he can give the twins extra tuition. Despite their young age, he strongly believes that encouraging them to take an active interest in this sport has enhanced the relationship he has with them.
http://www.channel4.com/culture/microsites/C/cutting_edge/images/strictly_baby/miah.jpg
As the father of a daughter in particular, Darren feels that it will help Miah to stand on her own two feet and encourage her to be able to take more care of herself when she is older.
Determined to make champions of his kids, they are encouraged to train three times a week and compete in the ring against other children. But pre-match jitters often get the better of Miah, who has to be coaxed into the ring on more than one occasion. "Every time she goes in that ring, there is always a worry she will start crying", admits Darren. But nonetheless he remains determined and ambitious.
For her next fight, Darren is taking no chances. He has 'bulked' her up so she is not at a weight disadvantage against her older opponent. Will this be enough for a win to make daddy's day or will the five-year-old, with a penchant for disco dancing and dressing up as a princess, go home empty-handed once again"
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