LCD or Plasma?

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Found 13th Jan 2008
Hi

I am looking to buy a 42" TV. Panasonic Viera has great reviews, but at the same time i saw Phillips widescreen LCD 47PFL7642D which i like the look very much.

Help me to decide please. LCD or Plasma

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Plasma has a much better picture quality but can be unreliable where as LCD is the exact opposite.
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Loads of factor to consider
if going anything above a 40" i would personally recommend a plasma
do you do gaming? is so plasma
I have recently baught the panasonic th42pz70ba and am well impressed
i read loads of stuff from avforums.com which is your best bet to get expierenced help
if you want a panasonic avoid the px range as this is alot cheaper but you can definately tell the difference with pz range
i'd avoid LG personally as they look good but not brilliant
if i had enough cash i would of bought the pioneer but hey my pocket is not loaded
just do loads of research before you buy
my mate got a Samsung LCD and both of us has said mine is better build quality, better picture.
another factor to consider is if you are sitting any closer than 10feet go for a 42" if more than 10feet go for a 50" as you will not appreciate a 50" quality less than 10 feet.
allways condiser john lewis aswell when buying as there tv's come with 5 years guarantee and they will price match any high street store.

You can also have a look at [url]www.avforums.com[/url]. Most LCD's have a problem with showing blacks, whereas plasma doesn't. Plasma is also meant to be better for fast screen action, such as football.

I was going to buy the panasonic 42px70 until the Toshiba c3030 cropped up on here on Christmas Day. That was an offer I couldn't refuse. From what I've read, Philips is not meant to be very good. Not sure if that's model specific or throughout the range though.

I would definitely buy the Panasonic over the Philips.

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LCD, LCD, LCD, no competition, re gas Plasma ever 5 years, if you are lucky.....I wouldn't want the hassle. Pay a little more for a top notch LCD, and you wont go wrong.

UltimoScorpion;1451768

LCD, LCD, LCD, no competition, re gas Plasma ever 5 years, if you are … LCD, LCD, LCD, no competition, re gas Plasma ever 5 years, if you are lucky.....I wouldn't want the hassle. Pay a little more for a top notch LCD, and you wont go wrong.



Where do you people come from? Re gas plasma every five years? You haven't had to do that since the very early plasma's!

A modern plasma should run indefinately without regassing!

No competition? So the fact that not a single LCD can match a top quality plasma is not considered to be competition? If you want the very best picture, then buy plasma. End of. If you want to compromise, then buy LCD.

UltimoScorpion;1451768

LCD, LCD, LCD, no competition, re gas Plasma ever 5 years, if you are … LCD, LCD, LCD, no competition, re gas Plasma ever 5 years, if you are lucky.....I wouldn't want the hassle. Pay a little more for a top notch LCD, and you wont go wrong.



Really annoying when people post rubbish like the above. :roll:

LCD gives a sharper image but can suffer motion blurr
Plasma gives you a softer image (no they dont need a "re gas" ) and will be still going strong after ten years

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i have the 42" phillips and can't fault it really

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UltimoScorpion;1451768

LCD, LCD, LCD, no competition, re gas Plasma ever 5 years, if you are … LCD, LCD, LCD, no competition, re gas Plasma ever 5 years, if you are lucky.....I wouldn't want the hassle. Pay a little more for a top notch LCD, and you wont go wrong.



Another urban myth.

The gas is in a sealed unit - there is no such thing as a "re-gas".

Yes, the unit has a life span dependant on useage. My Panny has 60,000 hours of use before its half life is reached. I'll probably be dead before then!

I would buy LCD for 32" or below, but Plasma every time for large sets. My old Panny 42PX60 is still a fine beasty - and I certainly wouldnt swap that for any LCD on the market.

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UltimoScorpion;1451768

LCD, LCD, LCD, no competition, re gas Plasma ever 5 years, if you are … LCD, LCD, LCD, no competition, re gas Plasma ever 5 years, if you are lucky.....I wouldn't want the hassle. Pay a little more for a top notch LCD, and you wont go wrong.


Doh! :whistling:

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I have both and plasma wins by a mile.

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OK so you buy a plasma for better picture quality.....of which you'd have to be a real sado to notice to the naked eye, over LCD......and whilst you may get up to 30000 (about 10 years) hours of tv (if you are lucky, before the phosphor burn starts to degrade the picture quality). I have tv's in my house that are over 20 years old and still going strong.......why buy a tv with a shelf life....buy a tv that will last and still be working in 20 years time. LCD, LCD, LCD

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UltimoScorpion;1453374

OK so you buy a plasma for better picture quality.....of which you'd have … OK so you buy a plasma for better picture quality.....of which you'd have to be a real sado to notice to the naked eye, over LCD......and whilst you may get up to 30000 (about 10 years) hours of tv (if you are lucky, before the phosphor burn starts to degrade the picture quality). I have tv's in my house that are over 20 years old and still going strong.......why buy a tv with a shelf life....buy a tv that will last and still be working in 20 years time. LCD, LCD, LCD


You need to see an optician if you cant tell the difference between an LCD an plasma. Its like night & day! Plasmas last up to 60000 hours. 3 hours per day = 54 Years! You must watch a lot of TV to get to only 10 years shelf life. Who's the saddo now? LOL

freakinaddict;1451673

Loads of factor to considerdo you do gaming? is so plasma



noooooooooo do the exact opposite, most games will have a stationary staus bars which can cause burn in on the screen.

I've had my plasma for nearly 3 years now and do a lot of gaming on it...

No screen burn here.

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its all a matter of choice, there are some of us who like are lcd`s and some of us who like our plasma, me I have a 43inch Pioneer 434hde, and I love it.
But if we were all the same we would all have the same lcd`s or plasma`s, what the Op needs to do Is go and buy a good magazine that not biased to either model but gives the information on the item, I swear by What HI Fi sound and vision , its took me 6 months to make my mind up. Plus go to a good quality Tv shop and see some in action, if they are any good they will allow you to take in your own DVD and see for yourself how it plays
So its not about who can shout the loudest about Plasma or lcd , its down to pounds shillings and pence and what your budget is.:-D

It depends on what type of tv you watch.. if you are watching standard definition (SD) content e.g. Sky (not HD), freeview, etc. the difference between the LCD and plasma is pretty easy to spot. When viewing high definition (HD) content, the differences are less apparent, but can still be seen by colour reproduction (especially blacks).

And for the record, LCD's also have a shelf life, especially the cheaper range of LCDs which still utilise CCFL/FFL lighting (not too dissimilar to those fluorescent industrial lights), which will either fail or degrade in intensity over time. Although it's certainly possible to replace them, I'm sure by that time it'd be deemed uneconomical to do so. Longer life is available if you buy a set with LED backlight technology - but they cost a lot more currently.

The fact of the matter is, LCD is quite poorly designed to cope with displaying great images and has a lot of barriers to overcome to produce a good picture:

Colour reproduction (esp. black levels)
Uneven background lighting (which lead to 'clouding')
Slow refresh rates (which can lead to motion blur/ghosting)
Dead or stuck pixels (more common on LCD and plasma since there's generally more of them and you'd have to take your chances with the manufacturer policy)
A single fixed resolution which can make pictures look 'blocky ' or jagged

However, there are some good things about LCD over plasma displays:

No possibility of images 'burning' onto the screen (although it's possible to get image retention, but it can be cleared)
Lower power consumption (in general)
1:1 pixel mapping which makes it ideal for PC connectivity
Matte screens which make it better for brightly lit rooms

Just for the sake of completeness, positives of plasma are:

Colour reproduction
None of the negatives with LCD technology to produce a great picture (except maybe dead pixels)
Over 40", plasma seems to be cheaper than LCD (but you'd struggle to find plasmas that are less than 40" these days anyway)

And negatives:

Higher power consumption (in general)
Possibility of images burning onto the screen (although it is rare)
Hard to find 1:1 pixel mapping so not ideal for PC connectivity
Currently expensive for true 1080p HD screens
Glass screens - which can be brittle and possibility of cracking/breaking a real possibility through mishandling. Also reflections off the glass screen.

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kk_cheung;1453389

noooooooooo do the exact opposite, most games will have a stationary … noooooooooo do the exact opposite, most games will have a stationary staus bars which can cause burn in on the screen.


yet another luddite who needs educating in the latest plasma technology :whistling:

I have the Panasonic TH42px70 which have had for about 6 months - it is a fantastic set and handles 'action' eg. sports a lot better than a friend's LCD that cost more!
It's won umpteen awards from What Hifi etc and keeps winning them too - 'Budget plasma of the year 2007'
However, there is a however - screen burn CAN be an issue - playing COD4 does leave an outline in the bottom left hand corner of the screen (where the bullets indicator is - i think), I get around this by switching the aspect ratio between games - which is a pain. On the occaisions where the image has remained, an hour or so displaying 'snow' or 'sparklies' has removed it. I had a TH37 PX60 for 6 months prior to getting the PX70, it had the same issue when I 'accidentally' played Dead Rising for 10 hours!!! oops!
Watching HD stuff is truely fantastic, and unlike many sets that i've read about, it also displays standard def stuff really well too. The onboard freeview also gives very satisfying pictures too.

If you can pick a PX70 up for £600 -£700, I'd definately recommend one - just take care with the possibility of image burn!

Ultimo - I thought you were joking when you mentioned the re-gassing!

Which magazine ranked all the 42" Panasonic LCD models at 70%+, while the Philips Plasma you mention only came in at 52%. They cited several problems - poor layout of EPG,
smeary washed out picture , poor blacks , hollow uneven bass, inconvenient location of HDMI and audio output sockets, remote control uncomfortable, etc etc

Also FYI some manufacturers such as Sony and Sharp are moving away from Plasma screen production.

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Make sure that a 42" will be big enough. its surprising how easily you get used to the size. I have a 50" LG Plasma (£750) and was going to get the 42" version. very pleased I chose the 50" as even that seems a little too small now (I sit about 8 foot from tv).

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UltimoScorpion;1453374

OK so you buy a plasma for better picture quality.....of which you'd have … OK so you buy a plasma for better picture quality.....of which you'd have to be a real sado to notice to the naked eye, over LCD......and whilst you may get up to 30000 (about 10 years) hours of tv (if you are lucky, before the phosphor burn starts to degrade the picture quality). I have tv's in my house that are over 20 years old and still going strong.......why buy a tv with a shelf life....buy a tv that will last and still be working in 20 years time. LCD, LCD, LCD



So you are now decrying Plasma for better picture quality? (Now that you realise your previous gassing comment was rather foolish!)

Proud of TV sets that are 20 years old - which begs the question why did you buy an LCD (assuming you have). Oh - and my Plasma is 60,000 hours - before degredation. I doubt the CRTs you mention are as good as they were on Day 1.

Ive not got anything in particular against LCD. The kids both have them in their bedrooms (19" monitors and 32" TVs) - but I'm still using my CRT Sony 17" monitor (Multiscan 17SE2) - which is definately better than LCD. Lets be honest, the only advantage of an LCD over a CRT monitor is its footprint (and being more energy efficient.)

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I think ultimo has done a runner from this thread with his tail between his legs

I went out at weekend and bought the Panasonic TH42PZ70 which is a plasma. I was undecided between this and the new 37" LCD that had just entered the market. Luckily for me the shop I bought from had both models on display one above the other so the salesperson could point out the good and bad on both models. I will tell you now the picture quality and motion on the plasma are far superior. Just cant wait now to get it all installed

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Angiedee;1459126

I went out at weekend and bought the Panasonic TH42PZ70 which is a … I went out at weekend and bought the Panasonic TH42PZ70 which is a plasma. I was undecided between this and the new 37" LCD that had just entered the market. Luckily for me the shop I bought from had both models on display one above the other so the salesperson could point out the good and bad on both models. I will tell you now the picture quality and motion on the plasma are far superior. Just cant wait now to get it all installed




And its a great shame that people dont do this sort of research before making silly comments!

You've just bought a fantastic set. Wished I had waited and got that instead of my old 42PX60. However, I'm still as pleased as punch with the Panny Plasma I bought.

We are looking at the samsung le40r88bd as we only have a standard 37"plasma and really want HD but can't afford too high.I think the reviews are good for this model.
Anyone got one?
Cheers

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lurcheress;1459216

We are looking at the samsung le40r88bd as we only have a standard … We are looking at the samsung le40r88bd as we only have a standard 37"plasma and really want HD but can't afford too high.I think the reviews are good for this model.



Havent seen it - but would recommend you also consider the Pannys! Hopefully you can find a shop you can view both - then look for the best deal.

I have been looking at the panansonics today and found a 37" i really like but its either not in stock or you have to buy the pedestal seperately. I like the th37px70. Would the 42" version be just as good?
Thanks

lurcheress - see post number #20 above.

Thankyou : /

I have a Pioneer PDP-428XD and I have to say, the picture is awesome. I have not yet made any adjustments to the picture, but motion and colours are superb.

I upgraded from a 32" LG LCD, and the difference is phenomenal.

we had a plasma for just 25 months then all lines appearedon the screen. was told not worth fixing so went on to sony bravia lcd got free 5yr cover from sony centre WELL WORTH IT

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Oor Ann;1464835

we had a plasma for just 25 months then all lines appearedon the screen. … we had a plasma for just 25 months then all lines appearedon the screen. was told not worth fixing so went on to sony bravia lcd got free 5yr cover from sony centre WELL WORTH IT



Welcome to HUKD!

Like everything made, things can go wrong - and that includes your Bravia!

Ive now had my Panny for 2 years and its no different to day one. Well slightly - the free 5 year warrenty now only has 3 years to run!

What was the set that went kaput?

42" plasma here. LCD's are good but not on big screens, at least not for me. Too blocky even if the refresh rate doesn't leave ghosts. Oh and plasmas are pretty damn good for gaming too :-D

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Oor Ann;1464835

we had a plasma for just 25 months then all lines appearedon the screen. … we had a plasma for just 25 months then all lines appearedon the screen. was told not worth fixing so went on to sony bravia lcd got free 5yr cover from sony centre WELL WORTH IT


Crikey! You are the first person I have ever heard of that has bought from a TV from a sony centre as their prices are generally double what you could be paying. I hope they gave you the 5 year warranty for free :thumbsup:

We cant decide between panasonic HT37px70ped which you cant get at the moment or the TH42PX70 or the philips 42PFP5532 really want plasma as we play Fifa on PS3 quite alot.
Any advice I know the panasonics are good but what about phillips?
Thanks

The PX70 series by Panasonic has won pretty much every award there is - check out their website. I don't know much about the current Phillips line-up.

i ve heard taht LCD lives longer, but plasma has a better picture quality
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