Hello,
Been doing some work for a customer and noticed he had sky sports running but no sky box in sight so I asked him if he was stealing someone else's feed (in jest) and he told me about this open box v8s he had installed and said it basically gets all channels for free and has had it for months no problem.
Debated the legality over the box and he said it's the streamers and the people who set it up who are committing an offence not the watcher
Who can be legally implicated and what would they be penalised with ?
Curious so when I go back to do some work over then next few days I can set him straight
Been doing some work for a customer and noticed he had sky sports running but no sky box in sight so I asked him if he was stealing someone else's feed (in jest) and he told me about this open box v8s he had installed and said it basically gets all channels for free and has had it for months no problem.
Debated the legality over the box and he said it's the streamers and the people who set it up who are committing an offence not the watcher
Who can be legally implicated and what would they be penalised with ?
Curious so when I go back to do some work over then next few days I can set him straight
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sorted byQuestion is , is it about as illegal as watching a stream online ?
No, streaming is different as the content host is the one that is implicated. This is different from P2P, or in this case, on-side decryption. When you are streaming, you are just viewing the content without downloading anything that can be accessed afterwards.
Virgin media only charge so much because they piggy back off Rupert Murdoch.
Back on subject sky really never go for the "little" man, just the servers that are offering the channels/boxes !!
Dont tell me ebay dont know what a 12 month gift is ? A box of chocolates or a hat and scarf ? B***llocks !!
And even if if sky was to knock on someones door it only takes two seconds to delete a cline out and not everyone uses them for sky here. There is many pubs that get boxes to stream sports from other countries for a 1/3 of the price, and as many people do as sky is rubbish anyway with all the repeats they play !!
Sky only get a way with what they charge because of the millions they pay in corporation tax.
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Its not a criminal offence to watch copyright content but it does breach copyright and the provider can take you to the county court. Don't worry about it
Lol @ mjccam
He knows Sky's rip off prices and didn't want to pay them so bought a " £120 box and 2 years subscription", not from an high street shop, paid cash(?) and not by direct debit so no trail. He's fully aware it's illeagal and if not ignorance is no defence in law.
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He is not going to get "found out" unless someone reports him to Sky, and even then if you reported him to Sky, I'm pretty certain they'd have the powers to take him to court for civil proceedings if they could prove how long he had been in receipt of the box etc, but they wouldn't, and they'd be no criminal proceedings against him personally, they would however be very interested in investigating the suppliers etc.
The reality is he will face no prosecution or come back, the risk with these boxes is that the 'length of the subscription' may not reach 12 months, it could last 12 minutes, 12 weeks, or the full 12 months that depends on if the main distributors gets caught, and I think under the copyright act they can face jail time for up to 12 years which in the grand scheme of our judicial system is ridiculous considering paedophile's face far less.
I am curious as to how Amazon manage to sell these "gifts" on their website though.. being the ethical company that they are
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The ones on Amazon just get freeview so they are ethical
I am very interested in this, I currently have sky due to really good deals posted recently £25 a month for all channels for 12 months. The main reason we re-subscribed to SKY was the recording facility but if you can get that on a box now then that has made it very interesting
The boxes are, but you can buy the gifts separately. Which is the illegal part...
What does it matter to you if the guy is saving some money? Are you going to have a go at people using torrents too? What about those that don't pay TV license?
He knows exactly what he's doing so don't bother trying to put him in his place, he's just playing dumb with you.
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I'm £5 a month for all the channels :p. Google vu solo 2 or you can get a vu solo 2 se which is a clone and its even cheaper. Can record while watching another, can pause live tv. The only issue is, it isn't skys slick user interface so takes a bit of getting used to but for the price its fantastic.
Also these gifts can end at anytime and you've no comeback, its a risk you take. I've been using the same guy for 3 years so I know he's reliable and ive never ever had an issue.
And there is only FTA HD channels, if anyone tells you they get the paid channels in HD, its a lie
Honestly don't care what he does so everyone who was quick to jump on it just calm the **** down
... and quite frankly we know there is no better reason for educating yourself on a matter
Jury nullification exists though..
there is HD in cable box
ehh no, no one is entitled to break the law.
are you entitled to rob peoples houses just cause you want to?
10 month old thread dude...
19 month old thread dude...
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Let's ask him since it was two years ago!