Lena Dunham Hates Straight white men

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You could switch the word white with black or men with women or straight with gay and your life and career would be over. X) strange times.

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Original Poster

We all know the real reason she hates straight white men.... because they wouldn't go near her with a 10ft barge pole.
This is someone who talked about fingering her little sister in her book btw.

http://i.imgur.com/YRZLkFC.gif
you have just linked to her twitter feed which doesn't help
not that I care

Can't believe the fuss over something so self evidently true. So many ad hominem attacks on Dunham make it clear the reaction is more about personal dislike of her than a reasoned response. It is white straight men who wield and have wielded so much power in the world and been responsible for subjugation of other groups ie women, non white, light etc. the cartoon isn't saying all white men are bad, but the power that white men have had and used is part of so many problems. No better individual example of this than Trump.

Huddler

Can't believe the fuss over something so self evidently true. So many ad … Can't believe the fuss over something so self evidently true. So many ad hominem attacks on Dunham make it clear the reaction is more about personal dislike of her than a reasoned response. It is white straight men who wield and have wielded so much power in the world and been responsible for subjugation of other groups ie women, non white, light etc. the cartoon isn't saying all white men are bad, but the power that white men have had and used is part of so many problems. No better individual example of this than Trump.



Very intense from a newbie/multi

Banned

Predikuesi

Very intense from a newbie/multi


Yup. Straight in at the deep end! oO

MrScotchBonnet

Yup. Straight in at the deep end! oO



Reminds me of someone else from the past and in the present.

Tough one because her underlying point has some merit, but she's just awful. Terrible writer and prone to saying stupid things.

Not quite sure why the OP feels the need to comment on her physical appearance though. For all her thoughts, Lena Dunham does at least have the bravery to say things that obviously a lot of people feel without feeling the need to hide.

Huddler

Can't believe the fuss over something so self evidently true. So many ad … Can't believe the fuss over something so self evidently true. So many ad hominem attacks on Dunham make it clear the reaction is more about personal dislike of her than a reasoned response. It is white straight men who wield and have wielded so much power in the world and been responsible for subjugation of other groups ie women, non white, light etc. the cartoon isn't saying all white men are bad, but the power that white men have had and used is part of so many problems. No better individual example of this than Trump.



So the elite?
Not White men. Rich men.

Dunham is a horrible person and had abused children (At least one that she admits to). I've got no idea why people even give her the time of day.


I just had to look up who she is
thought she must be another reality star
I wish I hadn't wasted my time

I had never heard of her before, but googled her name. The Americanism 'homely' best describes her.

Predikuesi

I had never heard of her before, but googled her name. The Americanism … I had never heard of her before, but googled her name. The Americanism 'homely' best describes her.



So you googled an award winning writer and director because of her comments on white males, and what you come away with is a description of her appearance?

I can't help but think that some posters here are simply reinforcing some points that people like her make. X)

Original Poster

HotEnglishAndWelshDeals

Tough one because her underlying point has some merit, but she's just … Tough one because her underlying point has some merit, but she's just awful. Terrible writer and prone to saying stupid things.Not quite sure why the OP feels the need to comment on her physical appearance though. For all her thoughts, Lena Dunham does at least have the bravery to say things that obviously a lot of people feel without feeling the need to hide.


White men literally invited almost everything. You wouldn't be calling her brave if she said the same things about women,blacks or gays. You'd be calling whoever did that racist like you like to do. Not so brave to attack straight white people when society deems that absolutely acceptable. You're a degenerate.

teh arn

So the elite?Not White men. Rich men.Dunham is a horrible person and had … So the elite?Not White men. Rich men.Dunham is a horrible person and had abused children (At least one that she admits to). I've got no idea why people even give her the time of day.


So you don't like Dunham; that's fair enough. But I am surprised that you stoop to repeating the favourite right-wing interpretation of what she did as a 7-year-old.

Jack-L92

White men literally invited almost everything. You wouldn't be calling … White men literally invited almost everything. You wouldn't be calling her brave if she said the same things about women,blacks or gays. You'd be calling whoever did that racist like you like to do. Not so brave to attack straight white people when society deems that absolutely acceptable. You're a degenerate.



If she said something similar about 'women, blacks or gays' then it would change the entire meaning of her statement which would require reassessment wouldn't it?

As it is you saw fit to make a comment about her appearance which is puerile and childish, especially considering you're doing it whilst hiding behind an anonymous moniker. Some might call that cowardly.

Plus if you were actually suggesting that men 'invented' literally everything then I'd point out that many women having contributed to our amazing culture, but that you should also read up on your history and the obstructions women have faced. Maybe you'll learn something.

HotEnglishAndWelshDeals

So you googled an award winning writer and director because of her … So you googled an award winning writer and director because of her comments on white males, and what you come away with is a description of her appearance?I can't help but think that some posters here are simply reinforcing some points that people like her make. X)



I know you like debating me

By the way, where do I say that I googled because of her comments. I had never heard of her before so went to see who she was, but my description stands. Stop twisting what people say.
Edited by: "Predikuesi" 3rd Nov 2016

Huddler

Can't believe the fuss over something so self evidently true. So many ad … Can't believe the fuss over something so self evidently true. So many ad hominem attacks on Dunham make it clear the reaction is more about personal dislike of her than a reasoned response. It is white straight men who wield and have wielded so much power in the world and been responsible for subjugation of other groups ie women, non white, light etc. the cartoon isn't saying all white men are bad, but the power that white men have had and used is part of so many problems. No better individual example of this than Trump.


I find this so offensive.

Rather like the targeting of SUS in the 70s, blaming the offenders of the same race on the whole.

Every person is an individual, to say white men are responsible for subjugation of other groups is stigmatision of an entire race. As offensive as saying black men are responsible for mugging and rapes.

Comments like this are why other reactionist groups like White Lives Matter spring up.

Individuals are responsible for crimes, not the race of the person.

Predikuesi

I know you like debating me



I actually thought you were one of the more reasonable posters despite no agreeing with you on a few things.

But now I wonder what type of man makes comments on a woman's appearance for no reason. See I grew up with a mother whom I respected, I married a woman I adore and I have a daughter whom I would do anything for, so I don't understand how a grown man things that's acceptable.

Maybe you simply didn't have these things in your life but that doesn't mean you shouldn't know better.

Banned

Lena Dunham Hates Straight white men



So does Jean Hatchet & she is so much more dangerous

coathanger

I find this so offensive.Rather like the targeting of SUS in the 70s, … I find this so offensive.Rather like the targeting of SUS in the 70s, blaming the offenders of the same race on the whole.Every person is an individual, to say white men are responsible for subjugation of other groups is stigmatision of an entire race. As offensive as saying black men are responsible for mugging and rapes.Comments like this are why other reactionist groups like White Lives Matter spring up. Individuals are responsible for crimes, not the race of the person.



All of which is fine but whitewashes the very real issue of institutional biases, something I'm sure we've all seen as men of working age.

Jack-L92

White men literally invented almost everything.



I don't see how this is relevant to the argument, but if that logic was to be applied evenly then you could also argue that white men have caused the most suffering in modern history.

HotEnglishAndWelshDeals

I actually thought you were one of the more reasonable posters despite no … I actually thought you were one of the more reasonable posters despite no agreeing with you on a few things.But now I wonder what type of man makes comments on a woman's appearance for no reason. See I grew up with a mother whom I respected, I married a woman I adore and I have a daughter whom I would do anything for, so I don't understand how a grown man things that's acceptable.Maybe you simply didn't have these things in your life but that doesn't mean you shouldn't know better.




Oh give me a break! I'm not going down this "my life is better than yours" road, except to say that I have been happily married to the same woman for 35 years, so try to find fault with that.

RossD89

I don't see how this is relevant to the argument, but if that logic was … I don't see how this is relevant to the argument, but if that logic was to be applied evenly then you could also argue that white men have caused the most suffering in modern history.


People in power have caused the most suffering in history, not just white men.

A question can be asked, why have most people in power been white?

Predikuesi

Oh give me a break! I'm not going down this "my life is better than … Oh give me a break! I'm not going down this "my life is better than yours" road, except to say that I have been happily married to the same woman for 35 years, so try to find fault with that.



This isn't about anyone's life being better than anyone else's. It's about learning to judge women on their merits not on their appearance.

How would you like it if your wife of 35 years was judged entirely on that? To you she's the most beautiful woman in the world but someone else might call her 'homely' rather than focusing on her amazing other qualities.

I know how I'd feel if someone did that to a woman I loved, respected or even hadn't met before but recognised that a person's worth isn't based on their outward appearance.

Clearly you're an older gentleman so I'd expect a tad more chivalry, based on the male role models I grew up respecting.

HotEnglishAndWelshDeals

This isn't about anyone's life being better than anyone else's. It's … This isn't about anyone's life being better than anyone else's. It's about learning to judge women on their merits not on their appearance.How would you like it if your wife of 35 years was judged entirely on that? To you she's the most beautiful woman in the world but someone else might call her 'homely' rather than focusing on her amazing other qualities.I know how I'd feel if someone did that to a woman I loved, respected or even hadn't met before but recognised that a person's worth isn't based on their outward appearance.Clearly you're an older gentleman so I'd expect a tad more chivalry, based on the male role models I grew up respecting.



Let's face it, most of the celebrities and politicians of today are trying to use every possible means to make a name for themselves, even if those means are outlandish and puerile. Their names may become one of history's footnotes, but largely they will only make an inscription of a forgotten tombstone. In all honesty I cannot suggest one man or woman alive today that I'd label great enough to leave a lasting legacy to the world. Hopefully there are some great ones to arise from amongst the children.
Edited by: "Predikuesi" 3rd Nov 2016

Clearly not all white, but the historical fact that world leaders have almost always been men cannot be denied.
list25.com/25-…ed/

i was thinking lena headey when I first read title, I have no idea who this person is. Shes ugly as **** anyway

Banned

Don't know who this Dunham is but Twitter has a lot of racist users and does nothing against them.

Spasho

Don't know who this Dunham is but Twitter has a lot of racist users and … Don't know who this Dunham is but Twitter has a lot of racist users and does nothing against them.



I don't know, I recall it banning one racist, alt-right scumbag. What was his name again?

I'd heard of her as my wife has mentioned her as being a deranged idiot.

Ms Dunham is one of those awful self important people who has an ego bigger than her IQ.

Original Poster

HotEnglishAndWelshDeals

Tough one because her underlying point has some merit, but she's just … Tough one because her underlying point has some merit, but she's just awful. Terrible writer and prone to saying stupid things.Not quite sure why the OP feels the need to comment on her physical appearance though. For all her thoughts, Lena Dunham does at least have the bravery to say things that obviously a lot of people feel without feeling the need to hide.


I didn't comment on her physical appearance.

Jack-L92

I didn't comment on her physical appearance.



10 foot barge pole comment was about her personality then? Fair enough. I shouldn't have assumed.

Original Poster

HotEnglishAndWelshDeals

I don't know, I recall it banning one racist, alt-right scumbag. What was … I don't know, I recall it banning one racist, alt-right scumbag. What was his name again?


HotEnglishAndWelshDeals

I don't know, I recall it banning one racist, alt-right scumbag. What was … I don't know, I recall it banning one racist, alt-right scumbag. What was his name again?



The fella in his avatar? Hang on, seems like I got you right in my 3rd post on here. You love to throw around the word racist at people you disagree with (Milo is obsessed with black men by the way, in a sexual way) but when its so obvious in Lena's case you say she "has merit"

Jack-L92

The fella in his avatar? Hang on, seems like I got you right in my 3rd … The fella in his avatar? Hang on, seems like I got you right in my 3rd post on here. You love to throw around the word racist at people you disagree with (Milo is obsessed with black men by the way, in a sexual way) but when its so obvious in Lena's case you say she "has merit"



Ah so being sexually attracted to black men means you can't be racist (because there's only two races?). Fair enough.

As for white male patriarchy in countries like America and Britain, yes those views have merit and are worth discussing.

Original Poster

HotEnglishAndWelshDeals

Ah so being sexually attracted to black men means you can't be racist … Ah so being sexually attracted to black men means you can't be racist (because there's only two races?). Fair enough.As for white male patriarchy in countries like America and Britain, yes those views have merit and are worth discussing.


Does that includes Jews? because if she said as much, she wouldn't get away with that would she? Did you even watch the video and see her comment. Going on YOUR interpretation, she lumps me in with people in power, ridiculous. The video is racist

Anyway can you educate me on how Milo is racist?


Edited by: "Dopamine" 3rd Nov 2016

Jack-L92

Does that includes Jews? because if she said as much, she wouldn't get … Does that includes Jews? because if she said as much, she wouldn't get away with that would she? Did you even watch the video and see her comment. Going on YOUR interpretation, she lumps me in with people in power, ridiculous. The video is racistAnyway can you educate me on how Milo is racist?



You have a privelaged status in this country as a white male. Now whatever your personal circumstances, that's very much the case.

Feel free to google Milo. I'm really not going to waste time on him. He's the province of listless, hopeless 20-something males looking for purpose in their lives.

Original Poster

HotEnglishAndWelshDeals

You have a privelaged status in this country as a white male. Now … You have a privelaged status in this country as a white male. Now whatever your personal circumstances, that's very much the case.Feel free to google Milo. I'm really not going to waste time on him. He's the province of listless, hopeless 20-something males looking for purpose in their lives.


https://pbs.twimg.com/media/CwUdoyyVQAAeeg6.jpg:large
You wont waste time on him because you cant tell me why. You don't need to waste time as you've already called him racist so you must know enough about him to call him that.


Jack-L92

https://pbs.twimg.com/media/CwUdoyyVQAAeeg6.jpg:largeYou wont waste time … https://pbs.twimg.com/media/CwUdoyyVQAAeeg6.jpg:largeYou wont waste time on him because you cant tell me why. You don't need to waste time as you've already called him racist so you must know enough about him to call him that.



So you don't recognise white males as being privelaged in British society? Really? What industry have you worked in where you've failed to encounter that?

Look, I get the appeal of alt right politics because it gives you a lot of things to blame things on but at some point you realise that it's trumped up rubbish to give cold comfort to people who feel like they're underachieved in life.

Original Poster

HotEnglishAndWelshDeals

So you don't recognise white males as being privelaged in British … So you don't recognise white males as being privelaged in British society? Really? What industry have you worked in where you've failed to encounter that?Look, I get the appeal of alt right politics because it gives you a lot of things to blame things on but at some point you realise that it's trumped up rubbish to give cold comfort to people who feel like they're underachieved in life.


How about you actually tell me why I'm so privileged?
Stop dodging the question, why is milo racist? Like I said earlier, you LOVE to throw that word around on this website but struggle to back it up.

RonChew

So you don't like Dunham; that's fair enough. But I am surprised that you … So you don't like Dunham; that's fair enough. But I am surprised that you stoop to repeating the favourite right-wing interpretation of what she did as a 7-year-old.


*17-year-old.

Original Poster

Rubisco

*17-year-old.


she molested her sister. I know she is now trying to pretend it wasn't abuse, but she talks about a "prank" her sister pulled where she hid things in her genitals and lena found them. That kind of prank would only work if someone was regularly checking on your privates regularly. Every molester downplays their role in the abuse, and that is what Lena is doing.
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