Lewis Hamilton Excluded from Aussie GP Results

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Found 2nd Apr 2009
The race stewards have disqualified Lewis Hamilton from the Australian GP. Initially they had penalised Jarno Trulli for passing Hamilton under the pace car (Trulli had ran-ff the circuit and Hamilton slowed to allow him back past believing that he would be penalised for passing Trulli), but after "new evidence" they have now disqualified Hamilton for giving mis-leading evidence.

So a new season begins and the stewards have to get involved and cause controversy!

My take is that the stewards realised they have cocked up by penalising Trulli, but rather than admit they made a mistake they have to blame some one else and who better than Hamilton!

Discuss, if you care!

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as it wasnt shown on television cant really say much but it does seema little odd doesent it

Be interesting to know what was said on the radio.

Bunch of prixs

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ffs. the end.

People are going to loose interest in this sport. Last season it was the unpredictable decisions from the stewards that almost cost Hamilton the title.

hellfire;4806896

Be interesting to know what was said on the radio.



apparently the McLaren team told Hamilton to slow down as they thought he may have illegally passed Trulli into 3rd place. This then forced Trulli past him (illegally as the safety car was out and you cant pass when its out) which was the reason for Trulli being given a penalty and Hamilton being given 3rd place. So in summary they have decided it was Hamiltons (and McLarens) fault that the illegal passing took place and so have stripped him of 3rd and the McClaren team of 6 team championship points

as long as truli doesent get the points dont care but give the extra points to jensen button for and amazing drive or that vettel guy who so nearly came second untill some ***** ran him off the road

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My take is that the stewards realised they have cocked up by penalising … My take is that the stewards realised they have cocked up by penalising Trulli, but rather than admit they made a mistake they have to blame some one else and who better than Hamilton!



I'm sure McLaren or Hamilton will have something to say if that was the case. But I'd say more than likely McLaren chanced there arm thinking the regulations were a certain way but got found out. Bit harsh taking all the points off him though. Should have just given Trulli back his place and put hamilton 4th

This constant hounding of hamilton shows how inherently racist F1really is.

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guitargaz;4806945

This constant hounding of hamilton shows how inherently racist F1really … This constant hounding of hamilton shows how inherently racist F1really is.


LOL... thats a joke right?

Cos although this all sucks... you are completely over the top, and probably racist yourself, since no one has even mentioned - or probably thought about - colour or race being an issue.

guitargaz;4806945

This constant hounding of hamilton shows how inherently racist F1really … This constant hounding of hamilton shows how inherently racist F1really is.



Yeah they should let Hamilton win every race otherwise they are being racist,

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guitargaz;4806945

This constant hounding of hamilton shows how inherently racist F1really … This constant hounding of hamilton shows how inherently racist F1really is.



Thats a racist comment in itself

vibeone;4806956

LOL... thats a joke right?Cos although this all sucks... you are … LOL... thats a joke right?Cos although this all sucks... you are completely over the top, and probably racist yourself, since no one has even mentioned - or probably thought about - colour or race being an issue.



Apart from the Spanish Grand Prix

Cantona_7;4806927

apparently the McLaren team told Hamilton to slow down as they thought he … apparently the McLaren team told Hamilton to slow down as they thought he may have illegally passed Trulli into 3rd place. This then forced Trulli past him (illegally as the safety car was out and you cant pass when its out) which was the reason for Trulli being given a penalty and Hamilton being given 3rd place. So in summary they have decided it was Hamiltons (and McLarens) fault that the illegal passing took place and so have stripped him of 3rd and the McClaren team of 6 team championship points



Would have made more sense just to take it back to the original decision.

guitargaz;4806945

This constant hounding of hamilton shows how inherently racist F1really … This constant hounding of hamilton shows how inherently racist F1really is.



Don't think the governing body is racist but do think they don't want one driver to dominate the sport for the whole of his career. Though lets face it if Mclaren don't improve their car that aint happening anyway

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This constant hounding of hamilton shows how inherently jealous F1 really is towards drivers that get to slept with the lead signer of the Pussycat Dolls

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vibeone;4806956

LOL... thats a joke right?Cos although this all sucks... you are … LOL... thats a joke right?Cos although this all sucks... you are completely over the top, and probably racist yourself, since no one has even mentioned - or probably thought about - colour or race being an issue.



There seems to be something that draws the ire of the FIA when it comes to McClaren/Hamilton. I can't see that he would've gotten the same decision if he did something like Schumacher in 1994.

hellfire;4806982

Would have made more sense just to take it back to the original decision.



i agree, oh and Trulli has been re-instated as 3rd place by the way!!! This is a bit of a joke to be honest, its like reversing a football match decision based on a goal that didnt cross the line, you have to live with the officials decisions at the time and draw a line under it. This constant changing of decisions is a farce, out of interest what would the bookies have paid out on here?? There has been Trulli 3rd, Hamilton 3rd and now Trulli 3rd again!!

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hellfire;4806982

Don't think the governing body is racist but do think they don't want one … Don't think the governing body is racist but do think they don't want one driver to dominate the sport for the whole of his career. Though lets face it if Mclaren don't improve their car that aint happening anyway



Like Schumacher did?

dontasciime;4806898

Bunch of prixs



lol, nice one.

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dontasciime;4806981

Apart from the Spanish Grand Prix



yeah - agreed!

Not seeing what actually happended i cant say if its fair or not but they should of left the decision that the choose even if it mean hamilton getting 3rd:x

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BlondeBella;4807076

Not seeing what actually happended i cant say if its fair or not but they … Not seeing what actually happended i cant say if its fair or not but they should of left the decision that the choose even if it mean hamilton getting 3rd:x


or at least just switched them back to 3rd n 4th.

It does stink a bit of "oh we ****ed up, lets make it look like someone else was at fault!"

FilthAndFurry;4807006

Like Schumacher did?



Schumacher started in 91 had his first win in 92 and got his 1st championship in 94. So not like Schumacher no.

I could be wrong but I am struggling to remeber a decision that went Hamiltons way:roll:

vibeone;4807139

or at least just switched them back to 3rd n 4th.It does stink a bit of … or at least just switched them back to 3rd n 4th.It does stink a bit of "oh we ****ed up, lets make it look like someone else was at fault!"



Yeah that would be a good start, I cant see how they can just change things like its nothing. there first decision should be keep if its wrong or right.

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BlondeBella;4807171

Yeah that would be a good start, I cant see how they can just change … Yeah that would be a good start, I cant see how they can just change things like its nothing. there first decision should be keep if its wrong or right.


Have you not watched F1 long?

Not being patronising, its just they do this over and over. Its pathetic.

vibeone;4807189

Have you not watched F1 long?Not being patronising, its just they do this … Have you not watched F1 long?Not being patronising, its just they do this over and over. Its pathetic.




A few years now, i no they do it, it just bugs the **** out of me. You dont see any of sport do this just cause they can.

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I quite like the point someone else made - its akin to changing the result of a football match based on whether a dubious shot crossed the line or not.

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A lot of Hamilton tinted specs in here. Fact is they did an illegal move and have been punished.

And as for the final result should have standing every Hamilton supporter will be delighted if the F1 committee overturns the legality of the new difussers and take the points off the teams using them.

And I am a Hamilton fan and hope he wins the title again, same he lost his 4th spot after coming from the back but thats what happens when you break the rules

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vibeone;4807241

I quite like the point someone else made - its akin to changing the … I quite like the point someone else made - its akin to changing the result of a football match based on whether a dubious shot crossed the line or not.



Yes but football will over turn a result if an ineligible player was used as its againist the rules.

And red cards can be over ruled after the game also.

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Paddy Charlie;4807260

A lot of Hamilton tinted specs in here. Fact is they did an illegal move … A lot of Hamilton tinted specs in here. Fact is they did an illegal move and have been punished. And as for the final result should have standing every Hamilton supporter will be delighted if the F1 committee overturns the legality of the new difussers and take the points off the teams using them.And I am a Hamilton fan and hope he wins the title again, same he lost his 4th spot after coming from the back but thats what happens when you break the rules


He didn't do an 'illegal move' - they have been punished because they apparently withheld information.

What Lewis did on the track - ie: going past Trulli when he went off - was completely legal. It was this letting him back/not letting him back that was the issue - and McCaren apparently trying to hide the fact was why he was removed completely.

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Sorry put that wrong I know it was for with holding evidence. But the fact is they broke the rules so they should not get a pat on the back and get no punishment. McLaren were happy enough for Trulli to get no points so why do they deserve them for lying

Cant see the problem here,

Transcript of the radio transmission between Lewis Hamilton and his team:

Team:
OK Lewis, you should need to make sure your delta is positive over the safety car line. After the safety car line the delta doesn’t matter but no overtaking. No overtaking.

Lewis Hamilton: The Toyota went off in a line at the second corner, ..., is this OK?

Team: Understood, Lewis. We’ll confirm and get back to you.

LH: He was off the track. He went wide.

Team: Lewis, you need to allow the Toyota through. Allow the Toyota through now.

LH: OK.

LH: He’s slowed right down in front of me.

Team: OK, Lewis. Stay ahead for the time being. Stay ahead. We will get back to you. We are talking to Charlie.

LH: I let him past already.

Team: OK, Lewis. That’s fine. That’s fine. Hold position. Hold position.

LH: Tell Charlie I already overtook him. I just let him past.

Team: I understand Lewis. We are checking. Now can we go to yellow G 5, yellow Golf 5.

LH: I don’t have to let him past I should be able to take that position back, if he made a mistake.

Team: Yes, we understand Lewis. Let’s just do it by the book. We are asking Charlie now. You are in P4. If you hold this position. Just keep it together.

Team: OK Lewis, your KERS is full, your KERS is full. Just be aware. You can go back to black F2, black Foxtrott 2.

LH: Any news from Charlie whether I can take it back or not.

Team: Still waiting on a response Lewis, still waiting.

Team: Lewis, work on your brakes please. Front brakes are cold.

Team: If we are able to use one KERS that would be good. If you deploy KERS please do so now.

Team: OK, Lewis, this is the last lap of the race. At the end of the lap the safety car will come in, you just proceed over the line without overtaking, without overtaking. We are looking into the Trulli thing, but just hold position.

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They weren't punished for the radio chat it was for giving the stewards who were investigating false information

I thought it was for with holding information rather than wrong info. Going to stand whatever now anyway, just wait for the weekend and see what happens. Go Jenson!

After seeing and hearing what "actually" happened, it goes to show that people should get the facts before condemning the stewards.
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