Linux Help Please

Ive always wanted to try linux but never had the courage to switch from XP. Anyway what i want to do is partition my harddrive and put linux on the system aswell. So would anyone know what tools etc i will need to do this and will it involve having to format the harddrive as i dont want to lose anything from the harddrive when splitting it. Aswell as this i wondered if it was possible to boot linux via an sd card?

Thanks

Ps. wheres the best place to download it?

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Have you had a look at ununtu
ubuntu.com/

You can run it 'live' from the CD without installing it to your hard drive.

If you do like it you can install it on your hard drive without formatting your drive. All the tools are on the Linux CD

Original Poster

Your a star stora thats just what ive been looking for.
What i really want to do is install linux on the hardrive and then if possible put in an sd card which will boot linux instead of windows then if i remove the sd and restart it will go to back to windows.

Banned

1. Loads of flavours of Linux available, just get the one you want and install as a dual-boot, so you can keep XP too.

2. Try Ubuntu/Kbuntu etc. (free versions) or the likes, you don't need to install them, just run it off a livecd or do an install later if you like it. Just to get you started.

3. No you don't need to format your drive for dual boot/multi-boot, have xp, vista, 98, linux etc. all on one drive, or more

4. Just make sure you have a bit of spare space for a linux install, like an EXT2/3 partition and a swap file.

5. If you is a n00bie, Some tools worth using are EastBCD and Ltools (for windows) , so you can read/write your linux partitions.

6. IMO, acronis is worth getting too, as it is a good easy tool for backup/restore, incase things go a bit iffy!.

7. Ye' you can boot linux from an SD card/usb stick etc. but it's a bit more hassle to do it and depends on the system, and slow boot times so I wouldn't bother unless you have time on your hands and are just experimenting.


You do need to know a little linux sometimes, but don't let that put you off.
Good luck

Banned

Guess I came in a bit late there with that answer

Original Poster

Yep this is all new to me i really want to try the sd/ usb stick thing.

4. Just make sure you have a bit of spare space for a linux install, like … 4. Just make sure you have a bit of spare space for a linux install, like an EXT2/3 partition and a swap file.

???:whistling:

a)all these tools you speak about what do i need them for??? Cant i use something like Partition magic then just instal in the partition.

b)How do i do the sd/usb dongle thing

I think that's what Soupy means and if not sorry but i am sure it be best to have a 2nd partition that will for sure aid any dual boot
I got a copy of pargon's partition magic on a pc mag cover dvd, just need to register with paragon for the licence key

I'd agree with the Ubuntu recommendations, having used Linux over the years I've been very impressed with how well featured and usable Ubuntu is out of the box. Its community support is excellent and the package manager is a particularly strong feature, you simply type in the name of the application or driver you're looking for and the system will go off, find what packages it needs (libraries, secondary applications etc.) then download the lot, install it and all without a reboot.

I've not tried the SD route myself but I believe the best way to do it is to download the Ubuntu Livecd (which I think is standard now anyway?) and copy the data to a USB drive or SD card, you should then be able to boot from it.

Something to bear in mind is that you will only be able to read NTFS partitions (which can still be iffy), not write to them which may be an issue if you're dual booting and trying to access a Windows partition in Linux. I don't believe this has changed although I'm sure someone will correct me if I am incorrect.

John

Original Poster

Thanks john and boydent:thumbsup: Ive been looking on google for tutorials etc but cant find any can someone point me in the right direction
cheers

Sorry the lad, linux is not summat i have experimented with, only advice i could offer was the logical partition help lol
I have always had when only one physical disk, two logicals, one for windows and the program files and the other logical for all else, personal files, installer software etc and every 3 months or so, i use norton ghost, to restore my "c" drive to get rid of all the **** that accumulates.
Linux i've never really looked into, perhaps i should but i will say, there might not be a tutorial per sa, but there are bound to be some really helpful forums, cos when stuff is not official like this, the community help is always immense, just for your own sake and respect, read the forum 1st before asking lol, else have some serious fire extinguishers cos the flames will engulfe you :thumbsup:

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boydent999

Sorry the lad, linux is not summat i have experimented with, only advice … Sorry the lad, linux is not summat i have experimented with, only advice i could offer was the logical partition help lol :)I have always had when only one physical disk, two logicals, one for windows and the program files and the other logical for all else, personal files, installer software etc and every 3 months or so, i use norton ghost, to restore my "c" drive to get rid of all the **** that accumulates.Linux i've never really looked into, perhaps i should but i will say, there might not be a tutorial per sa, but there are bound to be some really helpful forums, cos when stuff is not official like this, the community help is always immense, just for your own sake and respect, read the forum 1st before asking lol, else have some serious fire extinguishers cos the flames will engulfe you :thumbsup:


:thumbsup:

ryancs

Thanks john and boydent:thumbsup: Ive been looking on google for … Thanks john and boydent:thumbsup: Ive been looking on google for tutorials etc but cant find any can someone point me in the right directioncheers



I guess it's a bit tricky to write a tutorial for installing an OS - I think the easiest way to do it is to jump right in and download the main version which should be a LiveCD:

ubuntu.com/get…oad

A Livecd lets you run the operating system entirely with the CD so you can have a look and play with it without having to install anything or touch your hard drive. If you then have any issues, you can have a look at forums.ubuntu.com to get some specific help.

Once you've had a chance to get a feel for the operating system you should have a better idea whether you want to proceed with your sd card idea or simply eject the cd and go back to normal.

Note - the Ubunutu CD being a livecd is something I'm not 100% sure on, that's what it used to be and I'm fairly sure that's what it is now. However if you get no livecd option when booting from it and it looks to be trying to install, obviously just eject the cd and power down.

John

Original Poster

Ive just downloaded it to my usb stick and noticed theres a exe. file called start so i think this is what your talking about hopefully it will work.

Not sure what an exe is doing there - you shouldn't be running the data within Windows, you need to set your machine to boot from it. The exe may be a new way of making it easier to use, I really need to download a newer version and have a look.

John

Original Poster

well i just restarted then went into the bios then set it to boot from my usb stick but is said disk error? do i need to make my stick bootable first?

Original Poster

Yay all sorted i found a great video tutorial on youtube. All installed and boots ubuntu instead of windows when i insert card. Thanks for all your help people could'nt of got this far without it:-D

Banned

Here you go, install this in Windows and you will be able to access (read & write) to linux partitions.
it.fht-esslingen.de/~zi…tml

And this one is EasyBCD, a boot manager.
neosmart.net/dl.…d=1

And you should be able to read & write to Windows partition without installling anything additional with Ubuntu, but you may have to mount the drives.

If you want to use Windows programmes in Ubuntu, take a look at this link:
winehq.org/

Hope that helps
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