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    Supermod
    Just wanting a quick chat.

    My question:

    Can you genuinely see you going any further with Benitez?

    All joking aside, there was not one player in the Liverpool team today that would probably get in to any of the other "big 3".

    Average players like El Zhar, Ngog, Lucas, Insua are not the players you need when wanting to win trophies. Carragher is 3 seasons past his best and is a liability.

    With Torres out you just look incredibly average.

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    No is the answer.

    Original Poster Supermod

    odriscoll;7120688

    No is the answer.



    You want Benitez out?

    No, hes a great manager, but hes not going to win us the league, he should manage an international team

    My concern is more with the owners than Benitez, the thing I ask myself is who would do a better job, and more importantly would they want the job with the current owners in charge??

    Original Poster Supermod

    micoo;7120700

    No, hes a great manager, but hes not going to win us the league, he … No, hes a great manager, but hes not going to win us the league, he should manage an international team



    He has had ample opportunity to assemble a team full of international players. You have to question his ability as an all round manager. Tactician, maybe.

    Gerrard would walk into Man U, as would Johnson.

    Liverpool were so good at the end of last season, so Benitez has it in him to do it, so i don't know. 4 points behind Man U from a team who hasn't genuinely challenged for many a year is a big step. For some reason it's all gone to pot this season.

    Original Poster Supermod

    mattdawes699;7120702

    My concern is more with the owners than Benitez, the thing I ask myself … My concern is more with the owners than Benitez, the thing I ask myself is who would do a better job, and more importantly would they want the job with the current owners in charge??



    Benitez is the one who has the say as to who he buys in the transfer markets. Apart from Torres he has signed some incredibly bad players and the good players that he has bought he has let them go. You cannot do that if you want to win everything you are competing in.

    That was my concern when Ronaldo left. Just so happens that all the other teams are having "blips" themselves.

    hes took them as far as he can, they need a fresh injection

    Original Poster Supermod

    peodude;7120729

    Gerrard would walk into Man U, as would Johnson.Liverpool were so good at … Gerrard would walk into Man U, as would Johnson.Liverpool were so good at the end of last season, so Benitez has it in him to do it, so i don't know. 4 points behind Man U from a team who hasn't genuinely challenged for many a year is a big step. For some reason it's all gone to pot this season.



    I am not so sure. They need to strengthen but I dont think those players suit Manchester United.

    Only reason I can think of is that Torres is injured and they sold Alonso.

    The thing is we finished second last year, with a bit more luck/ taken opportunities (the two Stoke games spring to mind) we may have won the league, the problem is we have no-where near the depth of squad.
    I was gutted we sold Alonso

    Benitez has lost it he said today that we are improving ......... well a 0-0 draw against blackburn aint good.

    2005 is a long time ago and I think he should go but I have been saying that for 2 years

    reasons

    poor buys
    poor tactics
    stubborn
    concentrates on europe instead of league
    generally does my head in

    the onl problem is it will cost us 20 million to get rid but how much will it cost us not qualifiing for champions league next year

    Original Poster Supermod

    mattdawes699;7120749

    The thing is we finished second last year, with a bit more luck/ taken … The thing is we finished second last year, with a bit more luck/ taken opportunities (the two Stoke games spring to mind) we may have won the league, the problem is we have no-where near the depth of squad.I was gutted we sold Alonso



    As Alex Ferguson knows too well, if Madrid come knocking there isnt much a team can do.
    Was strange as 8 months prior to the sale of Ronaldo, Ferguson said that he wouldnt sell Madrid a virus!! Quite the opposite, he sold to them the best player in the world!

    Original Poster Supermod

    sicknotexxx;7120755

    Benitez has lost it he said today that we are improving ......... well a … Benitez has lost it he said today that we are improving ......... well a 0-0 draw against blackburn aint good.2005 is a long time ago and I think he should go but I have been saying that for 2 yearsreasonspoor buyspoor tactics stubbornconcentrates on europe instead of leaguegenerally does my head inthe onl problem is it will cost us 20 million to get rid but how much will it cost us not qualifiing for champions league next year



    You need to sign some better players.

    Voronin? Awful signing. You should have looked after Crouch a bit better. At least he scored goals after playing regularly.

    another LFC fan who thinks benitez should stay, & its the owners who need to go.
    sure Benitez has signed some carthorses, but those carthorses looked like thoroughbreds.
    any premiership manager would have gone for keane and look how bad he played

    magicjay1986;7120763

    As Alex Ferguson knows too well, if Madrid come knocking there isnt much … As Alex Ferguson knows too well, if Madrid come knocking there isnt much a team can do. Was strange as 8 months prior to the sale of Ronaldo, Ferguson said that he wouldnt sell Madrid a virus!! Quite the opposite, he sold to them the best player in the world!



    + Gabriel Heinze
    + Ruud Van Nistleroy

    he signs too many spaniards, a biased purchaser!

    magicjay1986;7120763

    As Alex Ferguson knows too well, if Madrid come knocking there isnt much … As Alex Ferguson knows too well, if Madrid come knocking there isnt much a team can do. Was strange as 8 months prior to the sale of Ronaldo, Ferguson said that he wouldnt sell Madrid a virus!! Quite the opposite, he sold to them the best player in the world!



    Fair comment, the thing I ask myself is who would take over at Liverpool, some may say it's a great opportunity to revive a prestigious club, but I am still skeptical as to the backing the owners are giving, my personal view is they bought into Liverpool for the name and brand it brings, they are businessmen first and foremost and they wanted the kudos of owning one of the biggest names in football.
    How do you as a United fan feel about the Glaziers?

    Original Poster Supermod

    wolf359;7120772

    another LFC fan who thinks benitez should stay, & its the owners who need … another LFC fan who thinks benitez should stay, & its the owners who need to go.sure Benitez has signed some carthorses, but those carthorses looked like thoroughbreds.any premiership manager would have gone for keane and look how bad he played



    Ok. What about:

    El Zhar
    Voronin
    Dossena
    Insua
    Ngog
    Lucas

    No manager wanting to win the league would have bought ANY of the above players!!

    Original Poster Supermod

    peodude;7120774

    + Gabriel Heinze+ Ruud Van Nistleroy



    It was Madrid or Liverpool for Heinze...

    + Beckham.

    magicjay1986;7120770

    You need to sign some better players. Voronin? Awful signing. You should … You need to sign some better players. Voronin? Awful signing. You should have looked after Crouch a bit better. At least he scored goals after playing regularly.



    Another player I didn't want to see go, he may not look the part but as you say he put the ball in the net often enough to justify the place, I would like to have seen him with Torres more

    Original Poster Supermod

    mattdawes699;7120788

    Fair comment, the thing I ask myself is who would take over at Liverpool, … Fair comment, the thing I ask myself is who would take over at Liverpool, some may say it's a great opportunity to revive a prestigious club, but I am still skeptical as to the backing the owners are giving, my personal view is they bought into Liverpool for the name and brand it brings, they are businessmen first and foremost and they wanted the kudos of owning one of the biggest names in football.How do you as a United fan feel about the Glaziers?



    When they first took over the club I was worried, as were most Manchester United fans.

    Now we look where we are...3 Premier League titles in the last 3 years. 2 Champions League finals and one win.

    Sir Alex still seems to be able to spend if need be.

    The Glaziers must know how to run a business and they seem to be doing it so well.

    Also, they are never in the news for anything detrimental to the club. Unlike the Liverpool owners or Thaksin when he was at City!

    Original Poster Supermod

    mattdawes699;7120809

    Another player I didn't want to see go, he may not look the part but as … Another player I didn't want to see go, he may not look the part but as you say he put the ball in the net often enough to justify the place, I would like to have seen him with Torres more



    I have a lot of time for Peter Crouch. Such a great professional and a good player. I hope he makes the England team.

    magicjay1986;7120827

    When they first took over the club I was worried, as were most Manchester … When they first took over the club I was worried, as were most Manchester United fans. Now we look where we are...3 Premier League titles in the last 3 years. 2 champions league finals and one win. Sir Alex still seems to be able to spend if need be. The Glaziers must know how to run a business and they seem to be doing it so well.



    And that where Hicks and Gillette don't seem to, they have borrowed to the hilt to fund their purchase, and they don't want to sell (at least thats how it seems).
    I worry that the youth we have in the squad are not premier league qualityfor the majority, which means we need to spend massively. We have no cover up front for time when Torres is out, thtas why we get nil nil draws against blackburn!

    Original Poster Supermod

    mattdawes699;7120891

    And that where Hicks and Gillette don't seem to, they have borrowed to … And that where Hicks and Gillette don't seem to, they have borrowed to the hilt to fund their purchase, and they don't want to sell (at least thats how it seems).I worry that the youth we have in the squad are not premier league qualityfor the majority, which means we need to spend massively. We have no cover up front for time when Torres is out, thtas why we get nil nil draws against blackburn!



    That is a huge problem. You really need to spend big and you need to spend big at a time where transfer prices are incredibly inflated.

    Manchester United should table £60m for Torres

    magicjay1986;7120939

    That is a huge problem. You really need to spend big and you need to … That is a huge problem. You really need to spend big and you need to spend big at a time where transfer prices are incredibly inflated.Manchester United should table £60m for Torres



    It's hard enough you having Owen

    mattdawes699;7121092

    It's hard enough you having Owen



    Yeah, he's really shone for Man U this season so far. Not

    peodude;7121115

    Yeah, he's really shone for Man U this season so far. Not



    Shine or not seeing him in the Utd shirt is enough

    Original Poster Supermod

    peodude;7121115

    Yeah, he's really shone for Man U this season so far. Not



    If he does nothing all season then I will happily take his goal against City.

    He will be key to winning the Carling Cup and will play in the FA Cup. The type of player Liverpool need.

    If he's replaced with someone like Mourinho then great..........if it's Klinnsman then forget it.

    Original Poster Supermod

    Syzable;7121173

    If he's replaced with someone like Mourinho then great..........if it's … If he's replaced with someone like Mourinho then great..........if it's Klinnsman then forget it.



    I dont think Mourinho would. I think Mourinho is holding out for Manchester United.

    LOL @ LIVERPOOL :lol:

    magicjay1986;7121191

    I dont think Mourinho would. I think Mourinho is holding out for … I dont think Mourinho would. I think Mourinho is holding out for Manchester United.



    He'll have to wait for Rudolfs liver to give up the ghost first. :lol:

    Original Poster Supermod

    Syzable;7121241

    He'll have to wait for Rudolfs liver to give up the ghost first. :lol:



    Should coincide nicely with his Inter contract!

    Liverpool's consistent best 11 2008-2009
    Reina
    Arbeloa
    Agger/Hyypia (Debatable)
    Carragher
    Aurelio
    Riera
    Mascherano
    Gerrard
    Alonso
    Benayoun/Kuyt (Debatable)
    Torres

    Liverpool team v Blackburn today
    Reina
    Johnson
    Carragher
    Agger
    Insua
    Mascherano
    Lucas
    Benayoun
    Gerrard
    Riera
    Kuyt

    Says it all really. Their biggest mistake was letting alonso go, if results dont pick up for liverpool I think it will be bye bye benitez...

    Banned

    http://i47.tinypic.com/1i634.jpg

    :-D

    magicjay1986;7120827

    When they first took over the club I was worried, as were most Manchester … When they first took over the club I was worried, as were most Manchester United fans. Now we look where we are...3 Premier League titles in the last 3 years. 2 Champions League finals and one win. Sir Alex still seems to be able to spend if need be. The Glaziers must know how to run a business and they seem to be doing it so well.Also, they are never in the news for anything detrimental to the club. Unlike the Liverpool owners or Thaksin when he was at City!



    +1

    Ricardo Kaka;7121228

    LOL @ LIVERPOOL :lol:



    +1

    Original Poster Supermod

    shauneco;7121695

    +1



    Turned out to be a great day!!

    magicjay1986;7121718

    Turned out to be a great day!!



    Shame City couldn't lose as well lol

    Original Poster Supermod

    shauneco;7121745

    Shame City couldn't lose as well lol



    Haha yes! Ah well. I am content!!
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