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    looking for a a gaming pc for my son

    My son plays battlefield, cs go, COD infinite warfare, rust and rocket league, He says he wants top graphic card.
    My budget is £600-£800.Really looking for a set of components to look out for or full system to buy

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    Speak to Scan.co.uk they specialise in gaming spec pcs they offer honest good advice plus very reasonable of prices.

    "top graphic card" and "£600-£800" for the entire PC really isn't going to happen.

    You need to be realistic however your budget will be sufficient for a nice capable gaming PC.

    building custom spec for you now.

    joshp

    "top graphic card" and "£600-£800" for the entire PC really isn't going t … "top graphic card" and "£600-£800" for the entire PC really isn't going to happen.You need to be realistic however your budget will be sufficient for a nice capable gaming PC.




    nonsense.

    t3hfunk3r

    nonsense.


    Top GPU let's say 1080 gtx, so circa £650...that's the budget blown. Think they meant more for a towards the top end opposed to the actual top.

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    He now says a 1050 what ever that is lol

    joshp

    "top graphic card" and "£600-£800" for the entire PC really isn't going t … "top graphic card" and "£600-£800" for the entire PC really isn't going to happen.You need to be realistic however your budget will be sufficient for a nice capable gaming PC.



    Yeah, the top two graphics card levels at the moment are going for £1200 and £530. An entry level card is £100 while the mid-range options are £170-250.

    The main additional information needed for a sensible answer is whether you need the complete system with peripherals (monitor, mouse and keyboard, speakers etc.) or just the base unit?

    If you already have a monitor then some details on it would be handy as it can affect the choice of graphics card (for example if it's unusually high or low resolution, or if it supports Freesync).

    EDIT:
    easymoney

    He now says a 1050 what ever that is lol



    A nVidia Geforce GTX 1050. A solid entry level card, although the competing AMD Radeon RX 460 produces better results if paired with a Freesync monitor.
    Edited by: "EndlessWaves" 3rd Dec 2016

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    joshp

    "top graphic card" and "£600-£800" for the entire PC really isn't going t … "top graphic card" and "£600-£800" for the entire PC really isn't going to happen.You need to be realistic however your budget will be sufficient for a nice capable gaming PC.



    ​Sent email of to scan and asked for callback thanks

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    easymoney

    ​Sent email of to scan and asked for callback thanks



    ​He would like, a new monitor, keyboard and mouse but this all depends on the price of pc, think he will be spending some of his own Christmas money

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    t3hfunk3r

    building custom spec for you now.



    ​Great most appreciated

    uk.pcpartpicker.com/lis…cGf

    R9 Fury - +10% faster than the model below - £790

    Edited by: "t3hfunk3r" 3rd Dec 2016

    Has your son considered an AMD graphics card they give better value over the Nvidia cards you can get a Radion RX 480 for around £269.

    My go to list of retailers for gaming has to be:

    scan.co.uk
    overclockers.co.uk
    ebuyer.com

    also overclockers and scan both build pcs if you didn't want to build your own.
    If you wanted to build your own This website forums.hexus.net/ can give you some extra help on what to go for also overclockers have their own forum here: forums.overclockers.co.uk

    That's a pretty realistic budget then, something along the lines of this plus whatever he wants for keyboard and mouse:
    uk.pcpartpicker.com/lis…NxY
    Edited by: "EndlessWaves" 3rd Dec 2016

    probably best bang for buck - uk.pcpartpicker.com/lis…hFd

    Rx 480 4GB - £699

    Will crush 1080P gaming. good for 1440P too.

    EndlessWaves

    That's a pretty realistic budget then, something along the lines of this … That's a pretty realistic budget then, something along the lines of this plus whatever he wants for keyboard and mouse:https://uk.pcpartpicker.com/list/N2xNxY




    Not sure id run with a 2core CPU (regardless of multithreading), and an RX 460 isn't great either, a 430W power supply will blow when the CPU and GPU is eventually upgraded to something more meaty.

    Edited by: "t3hfunk3r" 3rd Dec 2016

    t3hfunk3r

    nonsense.



    Your examples for nearly £800 are not top end graphics cards are they. I said their budget will get them a good capable machine. Everything in my statement is true and factual albeit may not contain much helpful information for the OP because I started to type further information however I had other jobs to attend to.

    Perhaps think before suggesting something is nonsense in future (_;)

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    These recommendations are great, talked to son and he's up for building pc

    joshp

    Your examples for nearly £800 are not top end graphics cards are they. I … Your examples for nearly £800 are not top end graphics cards are they. I said their budget will get them a good capable machine. Everything in my statement is true and factual albeit may not contain much helpful information for the OP because I started to type further information however I had other jobs to attend to. Perhaps think before suggesting something is nonsense in future (_;)




    videocardbenchmark.net/hig…tml

    there are only 4 consumer grade cards faster than any of the combinations given above

    Gtx 1080
    GTX 980ti
    GTX 1070
    GTX 980


    the GTX 1060 - 12th on the scale is equivalent to the GTX 980 (last gens second faster Nvidia based GPU core consumer grade)

    R9 Fury - 17th on the scale is AMDs second fastest consumer grade GPU only beaten by the Fury X (and the Fury may have unlockable cores depending on which revision bought so this may be a moot point)

    Rx 480 - 23rd is a mid-high range GPU that is equivalent to a GTX 980 for around half the price. In fact in DX12 it outperforms most 980s. RX 480 in Xfire will keep up with a 1080 (the current fastest consumer grade GPU)

    ........ so..... When an average consumer (particularly one that has a son) says "top end graphics card" I doubt they mean a GTX 1080 (by all definition an enthusiast grade card) built for 4K gaming a 60 FPS or 1440p gaming at 140FPS. Totally unnecessary to run battlefield or CoD at "regular" / Full HD resolutions.

    I think they mean "something that will run all current games and ultra max detail at Full HD 1080p 60FPS or 2K 1440p 45FPS.


    Edited by: "t3hfunk3r" 3rd Dec 2016

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    Still a bit confused which is the best build to go with

    easymoney

    Still a bit confused which is the best build to go with



    If it were me, Id pick the RX 480 8GB build or the GTX1060 build.

    Both will crush 1080P gaming and ultra max detail ~ 60FPS. Both are VR compatible (should you want that eventually). Both are 6GB+ in VRAM so will be good for a few years. Both are FinFet manufactured so will Overclock easily.

    Red or Green is really the question; Green is definitely better at DX11 but with DX12 coming online and AMDs better Async compute red team will begin to pull ahead....

    either are really good though.

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    t3hfunk3r

    If it were me, Id pick the RX 480 8GB build or the GTX1060 build. Both … If it were me, Id pick the RX 480 8GB build or the GTX1060 build. Both will crush 1080P gaming and ultra max detail ~ 60FPS. Both are VR compatible (should you want that eventually). Both are 6GB+ in VRAM so will be good for a few years. Both are FinFet manufactured so will Overclock easily. Red or Green is really the question; Green is definitely better at DX11 but with DX12 coming online and AMDs better Async compute red team will begin to pull ahead....either are really good though.



    ​What is red and and green

    you need to consider bang for the buck and what you are going to do with it. If its literally gaming and that's it (no bit coin mining or async compute tasks etc) don't sweat it; do you prefer red or green as a colour? Theres hardly much difference in performance and what performance difference there is you pay more for (and its literally scalable - eg 10% price increase, 10% performance increase, the question is if your monitor is 60Hz panel then it can only display 60FPS - meaning if the RX 480 hits 60FPS and gtx1060 hits 66fps it doesn't matter, your monitor will only display 60FPS anyway).

    easymoney

    ​What is red and and green




    Rx 480, R9 Fury = red team - AMD - amd.com/en-gb

    GTX 1060 = Green team - Nvidia - nvidia.co.uk/pag…tml
    Edited by: "t3hfunk3r" 3rd Dec 2016

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    t3hfunk3r

    you need to consider bang for the buck and what you are going to do with … you need to consider bang for the buck and what you are going to do with it. If its literally gaming and that's it (no bit coin mining or async compute tasks etc) don't sweat it; do you prefer red or green as a colour? Theres hardly much difference in performance and what performance difference there is you pay more for (and its literally scalable - eg 10% price increase, 10% performance increase, the question is if your monitor is 60Hz panel then it can only display 60FPS - meaning if the RX 480 hits 60FPS and gtx1060 hits 66fps it doesn't matter, your monitor will only display 60FPS anyway).



    ​Thanks mate for all your help its much appreciated, how long to build pc for newbie

    theres a guy on youtube that runs a channel called "tech deals" - its a little lame but for your average consumer he presents the information in an easy to consume way. I would suggest checking out his channel and looking up the

    GTX 1060
    RX 480
    GTX 1070 (this will push your budget out by about £75 to £100 and is unnecessary if your monitor is only a 60hz panel)

    easymoney

    ​Thanks mate for all your help its much appreciated, how long to build pc … ​Thanks mate for all your help its much appreciated, how long to build pc for newbie



    A day at most. The tricky part is getting the CPU cooler on (its A LOT easier than it used to be - you used to literally have to use a flat head screw driver and force a clamp down. If the pressure forced the screw driver off the clamp your screwdriver would land right on the PCB and rip up in capacitors and what have you..... yep, done that!).

    Its relatively easy now. Theres tons of build channels on you tube - check out

    Pauls Hardware - he recently did a whole series on building a PC from scratch
    Tech Deals - little lame but decent info for a n00b (especially on the graphics cards)
    Linus Tech Tips - good overall tech chanel with tons of information
    JayzTwoCents - really good channel overall and overs a lot of ground

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    t3hfunk3r

    https://uk.pcpartpicker.com/list/RVF3gLGtx 1060 - + 10% faster than the … https://uk.pcpartpicker.com/list/RVF3gLGtx 1060 - + 10% faster than the model below - £740



    ​Son has decided to go with this, now time to persuade his mother to part with some money

    easymoney

    ​Son has decided to go with this, now time to persuade his mother to part … ​Son has decided to go with this, now time to persuade his mother to part with some money



    sounds good. The price will be a little less if you don't need some of the parts (like the bluray/DVD drive or the keyboard and mouse - im sure you could salvage those from the existing system along with the monitor or whatever).

    t3hfunk3r

    http://www.videocardbenchmark.net/high_end_gpus.htmlthere are only 4 … http://www.videocardbenchmark.net/high_end_gpus.htmlthere are only 4 consumer grade cards faster than any of the combinations given aboveGtx 1080GTX 980tiGTX 1070GTX 980the GTX 1060 - 12th on the scale is equivalent to the GTX 980 (last gens second faster Nvidia based GPU core consumer grade)R9 Fury - 17th on the scale is AMDs second fastest consumer grade GPU only beaten by the Fury X (and the Fury may have unlockable cores depending on which revision bought so this may be a moot point)Rx 480 - 23rd is a mid-high range GPU that is equivalent to a GTX 980 for around half the price. In fact in DX12 it outperforms most 980s. RX 480 in Xfire will keep up with a 1080 (the current fastest consumer grade GPU) ........ so..... When an average consumer (particularly one that has a son) says "top end graphics card" I doubt they mean a GTX 1080 (by all definition an enthusiast grade card) built for 4K gaming a 60 FPS or 1440p gaming at 140FPS. Totally unnecessary to run battlefield or CoD at "regular" / Full HD resolutions.I think they mean "something that will run all current games and ultra max detail at Full HD 1080p 60FPS or 2K 1440p 45FPS.



    I understand, you don't need to explain that to me. I think that fact is when some people say "top" or "best" they generally means better than average, not specifically the best available however what I said is still true. If they were to buy a GTX 1080 for example which is a consumer grade card, it would be way above their £800 budget with the finished build.

    remember you will also need to migrate your existing data on your old system to the new one if you want the new drive to be your primary boot drive (the one the pc uses principally to load stuff) - youll need to make sure you have or can get the installation key for windows or the operating system you are currently using.

    You should be able to also transfer out the existing hard drives to the new PC increasing the storage space etc.

    the most important thing to do is prep, understand whats involved, take your time before you start to learn some of the basic, and most importantly have fun.

    building PCs isn't that hard anymore - the software and data transfers can be tricky so make sure you read up plenty about what to do before you start. Once your done you will think "well that wasn't that hard was it!" and wonder why anyone ever takes their computer to PC World/Geek Squad .

    if, after reading everything you don't fancy doing it afterall, amazon.co.uk/Cyb…are

    (youre effectively paying £50 to have someone build it for you).

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    Do I need sound card

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    t3hfunk3r

    https://www.microsoft.com/en-gb/software-download/windows10you might need … https://www.microsoft.com/en-gb/software-download/windows10you might need this.



    ​Son says he is going to use licence that came with laptop

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    t3hfunk3r

    if, after reading everything you don't fancy doing it afterall, … if, after reading everything you don't fancy doing it afterall, https://www.amazon.co.uk/Cyberpower-Gaming-Sniper-Elite-1060/dp/B01M9A6RXB/ref=sr_1_116?s=computers&ie=UTF8&qid=1480780821&sr=1-116&keywords=alienware(youre effectively paying £50 to have someone build it for you).



    ​Son want to build one, so no going back now

    Most important thing to remember just take your time when building a computer don't rush it as that is when mistakes can be made.
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