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    looking to buy a surround sound system, help needed please

    Hi all,

    looking to buy a surround sound system, probably around £500 and looking for some ideas/deals etc. been speaking to lads in work who have different opinions but wanting to hear what the hotukdeals crew have to say.

    will i get a good system for £500 as 1 guy reckons i need to spend a grand minimum for real quality.

    also looking for a new TV bigger than 50" but the Panasonic's are to expensive, need something with good response time for gaming. budget £1500-£2000.

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    Your looking at a basic set-up for £500 all in, you would need a receiver, speakers and all the cabling too. I would adjust that as higher up as you can. I mean, for 500 you can get some Boston acoustics soundware xs 5.1 speakers for £270 new and then spend £230 on a number of different budget receivers but that is not going to be the best set up. I think it depends on what you really want to achieve really.

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    asayer

    Your looking at a basic set-up for £500 all in, you would need a … Your looking at a basic set-up for £500 all in, you would need a receiver, speakers and all the cabling too. I would adjust that as higher up as you can. I mean, for 500 you can get some Boston acoustics soundware xs 5.1 speakers for £270 new and then spend £230 on a number of different budget receivers but that is not going to be the best set up. I think it depends on what you really want to achieve really.



    how much do you reckon for a good set up then?

    I got a sony amp, q accoustics speakers and a sub. Sounds great but cost about £700.

    depends you will be able to get yourself the setups with integrated amplifiers for this kinda price range, there decent enough, not for real audiophiles who will even care about there cabling and such but they will certainly give you some power and certainly a decent starting surround sound, they dont allow the most potantial for upgrading though, how much stuff do you need to rund through the amp? consoles? TV? SKy?

    It all depends what you want to use it for really. You can't define a 'good set-up'. You have to work out your high end budget and stick to it. Ten you can work out what the best set-up is for in the bracket. As I mentioned before £500 is limited but is of course easily do-able. The speakers I mentioned earlier won the What HI-FI award for speakers in that price bracket. However, there are better speakers out there.

    Your main priority is to work out your budget and stick to it. Then move forward from there and find the best system for that money.

    get the samsung UE55D8000, from what i saw today it looks a stunning television! not sure about response times yet, you will have to wait for reviews and for it to drop from rrp of £2,500 or so

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    joeprosho

    depends you will be able to get yourself the setups with integrated … depends you will be able to get yourself the setups with integrated amplifiers for this kinda price range, there decent enough, not for real audiophiles who will even care about there cabling and such but they will certainly give you some power and certainly a decent starting surround sound, they dont allow the most potantial for upgrading though, how much stuff do you need to rund through the amp? consoles? TV? SKy?



    sky, tv, PS3.

    asayer

    It all depends what you want to use it for really. You can't define a … It all depends what you want to use it for really. You can't define a 'good set-up'. You have to work out your high end budget and stick to it. Ten you can work out what the best set-up is for in the bracket. As I mentioned before £500 is limited but is of course easily do-able. The speakers I mentioned earlier won the What HI-FI award for speakers in that price bracket. However, there are better speakers out there.Your main priority is to work out your budget and stick to it. Then move forward from there and find the best system for that money.



    cheers for that, i'll have a look at them speakers then check out the receivers.

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    joeprosho

    get the samsung UE55D8000, from what i saw today it looks a stunning … get the samsung UE55D8000, from what i saw today it looks a stunning television! not sure about response times yet, you will have to wait for reviews and for it to drop from rrp of £2,500 or so



    plasma only for me

    you after pillar style speakers or more discrete surround sound speakers? i mean i used to work in a sony centre so i know you can get sumthing like the bdve370 for about £299 which is a great starter surround sound set.. but lacks a serious amount of inputs, something like the newly coming out bdve380 would have more but obviously cost more and be of quite a different aesthetic....

    are you looking to run a 3D TV or console? (please say no as its a waste of time) but if so and you want a proper surround sound system (Av reciever jobby) you might want to go for sumthing newer that can handle taking the 3D picture through it.. not many can really

    hamza123

    plasma only for me



    why? plasma for gaming to..
    does it have to be 3D tv btw or anything?

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    i just prefer plasma, i have 2 lcd's in the house already and a plasma and the plasma is much better for watching the football and other sports IMO, pretty much no difference on the gaming side right enough.

    thanks for your help, i'm not looking for 3D.

    i just want something that sound awesome but i know you get what you pay for so may need to stretch the budget somewhat.

    Before you buy anything, ask yourself, do you really want and need a surround set up? You'll get a better bang-for-buck if you just buy a stereo amp and stereo speakers (bookshelf or floorstanding) and even better bang-for-buck if you buy 2nd hand.

    If you primarily want it for movies and/ or gaming, then surround sound might be the best option for you, but don't expect it to be any good with music - or at least not as good as a stereo amp and stereo speakers. If you spend £210 on a 7.1 AV Receiver, that's £30 per channel, but if you spend £210 on a stereo amp, that's £105 per channel. Although this is an over-simplification of bang-for-buck, it's a principle that's worth bearing in mind.

    I've got a Yamaha RX-V3800 AVR which cost about £1400 when launched in 2007 or 2008 and for music playback, it just can't compete with my mate's 15-20 year old Sherwood integrated stereo amp that cost £20, 2nd hand (as much as it pains me to admit - although that pain is somewhat lessened by the fact that I've got it on long-term loan).

    For more ideas, I suggest you have a look and ask some questions on AV Forums, where this kind of thing is the specialty of many members.
    Edited by: "windhoek" 17th Apr 2011

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    windhoek

    Before you buy anything, ask yourself, do you really want and need a … Before you buy anything, ask yourself, do you really want and need a surround set up? You'll get a better bang-for-buck if you just buy a stereo amp and stereo speakers (bookshelf or floorstanding) and even better bang-for-buck if you buy 2nd hand.If you primarily want it for movies and/ or gaming, then surround sound might be the best option for you, but don't expect it to be any good with music - or at least not as good as a stereo amp and stereo speakers. If you spend £210 on a 7.1 AV Receiver, that's £30 per channel, but if you spend £210 on a stereo amp, that's £105 per channel. Although this is an over-simplification of bang-for-buck, it's a principle that's worth bearing in mind.I've got a Yamaha RX-V3800 AVR which cost about £1400 when launched in 2007 or 2008 and for music playback, it just can't compete with my mate's 15-20 year old Sherwood integrated stereo amp that cost £20, 2nd hand (as much as it pains me to admit - although that pain is somewhat lessened by the fact that I've got it on long-term loan.For more ideas, I suggest you have a look and ask some questions on AV Forums, where this kind of thing is the specialty of many members.




    cheers, i'm on that web-site now...........defo the place to be for AV

    hamza123

    i just prefer plasma, i have 2 lcd's in the house already and a plasma … i just prefer plasma, i have 2 lcd's in the house already and a plasma and the plasma is much better for watching the football and other sports IMO, pretty much no difference on the gaming side right enough.thanks for your help, i'm not looking for 3D.i just want something that sound awesome but i know you get what you pay for so may need to stretch the budget somewhat.



    think youll be ok if you just want sumthing big, nice and not 3D, think the big plasmas are generally a lot better if you are watching SD through them but you shouldnt notice anything on Full HD and these LEDs should be better, i really like some of newest one, the techs coming on really well i think and manufacturers are even managing to get the blacks in the contrasts nowadays which is a definate bonus

    compromise on the thin LED's is the audio quality is some of the worst you will hear cause they just cannot fit the speakers in generally.. ill have a look anyway and see what i can rustle up, reevoo.com is a great website to start any TV search i find as it works as a great spec and price comparison, help u whittle the search down too

    right now all the new TV's are coming out so you will have to be deciding between 2011 sets at near RRP or last years models at good discounted rates!

    ill edit this comment to incorporate some TVs to possibly consider as i wont know much about some of them myself:

    LG60PX990= £2011 apparently 50kgs of plasma lol!
    LG60PK9900= £1900 Not 3D as is the one above i believe atm..
    LG60PS7000= £1809
    LG60PK790= £1600
    LG60PK590= £1320
    Samsung PS58C6500= £1500
    Panasonic TH-58PZ800 = £1799

    obviously a big range of LG's building.. so will have to look at the differences as they atep up through... im more clued up on budget level LCD's tbh


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    joeprosho

    ill edit this comment to incorporate some TVs to possibly consider as i … ill edit this comment to incorporate some TVs to possibly consider as i wont know much about some of them myself:LG60PX990= £2011 apparently 50kgs of plasma lol!LG60PK9900= £1900 Not 3D as is the one above i believe atm..LG60PK590= £1320



    cool i'll check them

    hamza123

    cool i'll check them



    the PK LG sets are 2010 models, the PX is 2011 i believe also 3D above the none 3D older sets..

    slightly interesting september dated thread on 60" plasmas here LINKKKK they recon best big screen plasma value is certainly in the LG's.. id still go for that new samsung LED when it drops in price myself though :P

    Ill leave you to it for now though sure you have more than enough to chew over with this thread and AV forums lol, if you want me to check sumthing out just let me know i enjoy the search!

    may be worth visiting here!;

    avforums.com

    For your home cinema, I'd say at least double your budget. I'd recommend an Onkyo or Yamaha receiver, you can pick up fairly good ones from around £200 if you shop around. Then maybe hook it up to Kef 3005se speakers and sub, or the recently released Kef T-105 if you want tall, flat speakers to match a flat screen. Alternatively the B&W MT-25 is also very good for movies/gaming etc.

    IMHO bearing in mind you may only run an av setup at around 40-60% of full volume you can't go wrong with a £500 ish budget for audio equipment as at those levels sound would be reproduced fairly accurately.

    On the other hand IF you are going to be shaking the walls regularly, then I agree you need to look at pushing your Audio Budget to £1k as a minimum.

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    liking this one Samsung PS58C6500 58" plasma, just need to try and get the best deal now.

    so much to choose from regarding surround sound, will take me longer to get that sorted.

    reevoo.com/p/s…500

    best prices i can find for the TV £1515 out of stock, could ring PC world to see if they are expecting stock on that one... or best buy, superfi, dixons £1600 in stock...
    not sure what the difference is between that set and the samsung PS59D6900 which seems to be a bit cheaper..

    id still go for the UE55D8000 myself lol, but if you love plasmas!

    this might be riddiculously off topic but have you contemplated the panasonic 50" G20 currently on over at about £600 or whatever it is in the AV section of this or is it too small?


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    joeprosho

    http://www.reevoo.com/p/samsung-ps58c6500#/offersbest prices i can find … http://www.reevoo.com/p/samsung-ps58c6500#/offersbest prices i can find for the TV £1515 out of stock, could ring PC world to see if they are expecting stock on that one... or best buy, superfi, dixons £1600 in stock...not sure what the difference is between that set and the samsung PS59D6900 which seems to be a bit cheaper..id still go for the UE55D8000 myself lol, but if you love plasmas! this might be riddiculously off topic but have you contemplated the panasonic 50" G20 currently on over at about £600 or whatever it is in the AV section of this or is it too small?



    i have a 50" at the moment so was really looking to move up a few inches.
    i'm not sure about the samsung PS58C6500 58" plasma now, read a few reviews and some people didn't seem to rate it too much. would like to hear if anyone on HD has one to comment on.

    i would like something with very little lag (ms) but don't know if i'll get it with my budget.

    had a look at LG's in currys tonight although they were 50" but looked really nice. Also had a look at some LED's which also looked nice, what are they like for sports and gaming?

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