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    MacBook Pro or Windows Laptop?

    Hi All,

    I need help with choosing a new Laptop for working with various Adobe software (Photoshop etc) and possible moving to 3D software.

    I have no budget limit but am really confused on which way to go. I'm swaying towards the New 15" MacBook Pro just a little... :-)

    I currently have a Windows desktop but need to make the move to laptop ASAP.

    Could someone please help answer the following for me?

    * will the software i have on my PC install on the MacBook Pro?
    * is it easy to install windows on the MacBook Pro
    * is it easy to switch between the 2 operating systems and will Windows XP be fast?
    * if i had window XP on the MacBook Pro - can i then install my adobe software (and will it run fast?)

    If anyone does answer this post (PLEASE PLEASE DO :-D ) will they also leave any recommendations for any Windows Laptops if they favour them over the Apple (and vice-versa please).

    Thanks in advance.

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    windows-if you want programs to run on it without compatability issues

    if youre despo for people to think your diffrent go for a mac

    Mac all the way, if you want it for Design Packages then it's the industry standard, the extra expense is well worth it for the reliability/stability and quality of build that you get, they just go on and on, have had Apples since 1995 and have never had any hardware/software problems, they rarely ever crash, the worst that's happened to me in nearly 14 years of using one is having to restart.

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    monkeybrains;3866325

    windows-if you want programs to run on it without compatability issuesif … windows-if you want programs to run on it without compatability issuesif youre despo for people to think your diffrent go for a mac



    Hey Thanks Monkeybrains!

    SO would you say that if i was going to get a MacBook Pro that i would have to get all the 'schebang' for it again, like all software etc? :?

    Unless you run bootcamp on the Mac, that would be an option if you don't want to have the expense of buying all Adobe software again.

    I'll vouch for mac as well.
    Benchmarks show that vista via bootcamp will run faster on a mac than on a similar spec pc.
    You can install windows in a couple of ways.
    Bootcamp - restart the mac and boot into Windows. This allows windows complete use of resources. Good for power hungry apps.
    Parallels - boot Windows within Mac OSX. This removes the need to reboot but resources have to be shared between both operating systems. Good when needing mac and windows apps at the same time.

    Mac is the future... asked me 5 years ago and it would of been windows. Mac are really out there now with everything. They are particularly amazing for graphics programs, 3d design programs.

    I use Pro/Engineer at home on my macbook - thats industry standard and works like a charm.

    Do the right thing.. become and apple nerd.

    Bigpoppaad

    Go with the Macbook Pro!

    I've been using Mac's for the last 3 years now and although I have a pc as I build systems, I find Mac's 'heaps' more reliable and every so user friendly.

    You will have no problem in using Windows on a Mac either using Bootcamp, VM Fusion, Parallels etc will do the job, in slightly different ways without too much hassle. Bootcamp does require rebooting whereas the other two will work within Mac OS so will run in a shell within Mac OS with no problems.

    Yeah forgot about Parallels, my boss uses that option on his Mac - it's top notch and seamless the way it toggles between the two you would never even know it's two systems running together.

    MacBook all the way, it was the best thing i ever did when I purchased the new MacBook.

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    WOW! guys thanks i'm overwhelmed at the repsonse so far! :thumbsup: :thumbsup:

    Thanks so much.

    If i did go ahead and get a Mac, i'm going to need help with all this bootcamp, parallel stuff.. will i definitely be able to install my software (windows xp/ adobe PS and AI etc) onto it? and would it run ok? or would you recommend to buy the Mac version of the software as it would run better?

    sorry for all of the questions its a big decision for me :oops:

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    Money Spinning;3866334

    Mac all the way, if you want it for Design Packages then it's the … Mac all the way, if you want it for Design Packages then it's the industry standard, the extra expense is well worth it for the reliability/stability and quality of build that you get, they just go on and on, have had Apples since 1995 and have never had any hardware/software problems, they rarely ever crash, the worst that's happened to me in nearly 14 years of using one is having to restart.



    Money Spinning;3866363

    Unless you run bootcamp on the Mac, that would be an option if you don't … Unless you run bootcamp on the Mac, that would be an option if you don't want to have the expense of buying all Adobe software again.



    Money Spinning;3866495

    Yeah forgot about Parallels, my boss uses that option on his Mac - it's … Yeah forgot about Parallels, my boss uses that option on his Mac - it's top notch and seamless the way it toggles between the two you would never even know it's two systems running together.



    Full respect to your comments (rep added!) thanks for the first hand advice.

    i switched to osx earlier this year and will never go back, however if you already have all the adobe software for windows is it really worth buying a mac to run everything on windows?

    Its very easy to run windows either by bootcamp or parallels, its easy to switch (parallels or fusion run in a window)
    You could install the adobe on bootcamp but is it really worth it?

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    Magic_monkey;3866382

    I'll vouch for mac as well.Benchmarks show that vista via bootcamp will … I'll vouch for mac as well.Benchmarks show that vista via bootcamp will run faster on a mac than on a similar spec pc.You can install windows in a couple of ways.Bootcamp - restart the mac and boot into Windows. This allows windows complete use of resources. Good for power hungry apps.Parallels - boot Windows within Mac OSX. This removes the need to reboot but resources have to be shared between both operating systems. Good when needing mac and windows apps at the same time.



    Thank Magic_monkey. (rep added!) can you please tell me if i would still get good resource from the machine if i ran parallels? i'm also looking to do video editing if possible with the MacBook Pro!

    Thank you for your first hand advice.

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    Bigpoppaad;3866424

    Mac is the future... asked me 5 years ago and it would of been windows. … Mac is the future... asked me 5 years ago and it would of been windows. Mac are really out there now with everything. They are particularly amazing for graphics programs, 3d design programs.I use Pro/Engineer at home on my macbook - thats industry standard and works like a charm. Do the right thing.. become and apple nerd.Bigpoppaad



    Looking just to do that mate :-D

    rep added for your first hand advice, thanks :thumbsup:

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    thehitman;3866436

    Go with the Macbook Pro!I've been using Mac's for the last 3 years now … Go with the Macbook Pro!I've been using Mac's for the last 3 years now and although I have a pc as I build systems, I find Mac's 'heaps' more reliable and every so user friendly.You will have no problem in using Windows on a Mac either using Bootcamp, VM Fusion, Parallels etc will do the job, in slightly different ways without too much hassle. Bootcamp does require rebooting whereas the other two will work within Mac OS so will run in a shell within Mac OS with no problems.



    Superb advice from the Hitman! Thanks mate... i may need help with setting those programs up when i get my mac.. can i ask for further advice if needed? or are they straight forward enough?

    (rep added)

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    miffysmate;3866621

    MacBook all the way, it was the best thing i ever did when I purchased … MacBook all the way, it was the best thing i ever did when I purchased the new MacBook.



    excellent! have you got the new MacBook Pro???

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    united002;3866726

    i switched to osx earlier this year and will never go back, however if … i switched to osx earlier this year and will never go back, however if you already have all the adobe software for windows is it really worth buying a mac to run everything on windows?Its very easy to run windows either by bootcamp or parallels, its easy to switch (parallels or fusion run in a window) You could install the adobe on bootcamp but is it really worth it?



    Hey great point of view UNITED002.. this is exactlly why im trying to work out what to get.

    i am doing more and more graphics work, along with web design etc.. moving into 3d work and video editing as well... so i know that for this type of work the macs are best to have... but i have aslready got all the software for my PC.. so im stuck...

    well i'm starting to think different now with everyones response.

    does everyone agree that i will be able to work efficiently on a MacBook Pro with having installed my current Windows apps on it?

    :):):)

    Hi permit,

    Just to let you know, I have a 15" Macbook Pro which I had customised. You are able to change the HD on this system along with the Ram if you want to upgrade these yourself at any time. Something that is a bit on the cumbersome side on my Macbook Pro.

    It will take a little while getting used to the new trackpad also. I have been using a Blackberry Storm so between that and the new Macbook Pro it's helped me get used to both fairly quickly. It's a shame that they didn't upgrade the 17" as I'd have stuck with a new one of those instead...

    The only thing I would say that's is a bit on the downside on this system is that the connections are quite close together so if you use a Mobile Broadband Dongle, you may have an issue if you try to connect that with any other usb peripheral. The battery life is good but not quite as good as the last generation Macbook Pro but you do get better graphics which works independently from the CPU so will help graphics applications run faster. Good luck if you do decide to go ahead, you won't regret the switch. :thumbsup:

    ive got the new macbook 2.4 and it runs xp better than my windows laptops! i love osx and its the way to go if you want to go into 3d and video editing (the" im a pc" adds were made on Mac's!). Mac's have far longer lives than windows its just buying all the Adobe again isnt going to be cheap if you do the complete switch.

    permit;3866800

    Superb advice from the Hitman! Thanks mate... i may need help with … Superb advice from the Hitman! Thanks mate... i may need help with setting those programs up when i get my mac.. can i ask for further advice if needed? or are they straight forward enough? (rep added)



    Feel free to message me if you need any help or advice. You'll find that most of the things you'll need to do on a Mac are very straight forward which give you more time to use your system.

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    united002;3866896

    ive got the new macbook 2.4 and it runs xp better than my windows … ive got the new macbook 2.4 and it runs xp better than my windows laptops! i love osx and its the way to go if you want to go into 3d and video editing (the" im a pc" adds were made on Mac's!). Mac's have far longer lives than windows its just buying all the Adobe again isnt going to be cheap if you do the complete switch.



    cheers again mate.

    i may take the plunge... maybe not into the deep-end just yet but to get the Macbook pro and use my windows stuff on it for now.

    :thumbsup:

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    thehitman;3866908

    Feel free to message me if you need any help or advice. You'll find that … Feel free to message me if you need any help or advice. You'll find that most of the things you'll need to do on a Mac are very straight forward which give you more time to use your system.



    Thanks so much mate.

    can you please tell me the costs of Bootcamp, VM Fusion, Parallels ?

    :thumbsup:

    Bootcamp is free it comes with osx you need a copy of windows though.
    Ive got parallels and paid £30 from amazon and got the free upgrade to 4.0

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    united002;3866967

    Bootcamp is free it comes with osx you need a copy of windows though.Ive … Bootcamp is free it comes with osx you need a copy of windows though.Ive got parallels and paid £30 from amazon and got the free upgrade to 4.0



    thats relatively cheap!

    i am beginning to think that the Macbook pro is deffo the way forward!:)

    Id say go for a mac as well plus u dont have virus issues like u do in windows.

    permit;3866346

    Hey Thanks Monkeybrains!SO would you say that if i was going to get a … Hey Thanks Monkeybrains!SO would you say that if i was going to get a MacBook Pro that i would have to get all the 'schebang' for it again, like all software etc? :?



    yeh pretty much.

    nearly all software is made for windows

    you wont find many stuff for mac

    huge compatability issue with macs

    avoid macs

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    MarzBarz;3867002

    Id say go for a mac as well plus u dont have virus issues like u do in … Id say go for a mac as well plus u dont have virus issues like u do in windows.



    Hey Thanks Marzbenz..

    mac have no virus issues? please ellaborate? this is news to me.. i never knew this cos i'd have had one ages ago.. :thumbsup:

    permit;3867015

    Hey Thanks Marzbenz..mac have no virus issues? please ellaborate? this is … Hey Thanks Marzbenz..mac have no virus issues? please ellaborate? this is news to me.. i never knew this cos i'd have had one ages ago.. :thumbsup:



    Hardly its very hard to get a virus in a mac coz dey r made for windows most of da time. My mac never did have a virus so no need for an anti virus etc

    monkeybrains;3867007

    yeh pretty much.nearly all software is made for windowsyou wont find many … yeh pretty much.nearly all software is made for windowsyou wont find many stuff for machuge compatability issue with macsavoid macs



    i lol'd

    You will find louds of stuff for mac and for your own need it looks like a mac will be perfect for you.

    The only thing i missed in my mac was microsoft access.

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    monkeybrains;3867007

    yeh pretty much.nearly all software is made for windowsyou wont find many … yeh pretty much.nearly all software is made for windowsyou wont find many stuff for machuge compatability issue with macsavoid macs



    OUCH.. a spanner in my thoughts... so you're saying that i will have compatibility issues even if i use bootcamp? and run under windows?? :oops:

    permit;3867042

    OUCH.. a spanner in my thoughts... so you're saying that i will have … OUCH.. a spanner in my thoughts... so you're saying that i will have compatibility issues even if i use bootcamp? and run under windows?? :oops:



    you wont have no issues under bootcamp but if your going to use windows all the time on it no point of getting a mac

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    MarzBarz;3867039

    i lol'dYou will find louds of stuff for mac and for your own need it … i lol'dYou will find louds of stuff for mac and for your own need it looks like a mac will be perfect for you.The only thing i missed in my mac was microsoft access.



    MarzBarz;3867055

    you wont have no issues under bootcamp but if your going to use windows … you wont have no issues under bootcamp but if your going to use windows all the time on it no point of getting a mac



    Yeah, i think i will take the slow conversion to macs... by using part my windows software and slowly buy the rest for mac versions.. so primarily i may be using windows 70% of the time.. if i get 3d software or video stuff i will by directly for Mac.

    on those notes i think it justify's for me to get a Mac... a PC/laptop will not be able to handle the same 3d/video stuff the mac can do?!

    cheers for your advice mate, have a late xmas pressie :):gift:

    monkeybrains;3867007

    yeh pretty much.nearly all software is made for windowsyou wont find many … yeh pretty much.nearly all software is made for windowsyou wont find many stuff for machuge compatability issue with macsavoid macs



    Please don't offend me with such a naive answer.
    Look at ]macupdate.com to see what is available.
    Search for file formats to see what apps are compatible.

    If you need help with getting any apps, give me a shout :whistling:

    Magic_monkey;3867309

    Please don't offend me with such a naive answer.Look at macupdate.com to … Please don't offend me with such a naive answer.Look at macupdate.com to see what is available. Search for file formats to see what apps are compatible.If you need help with getting any apps, give me a shout :whistling:



    exgaterating i was i think

    however you spell it. but the jist of the answer remains true

    In regard to 3d apps etc. the new mbp has a 512mb dedicated graphics card.
    Now look at the size of a windows laptop with that in it.... lol

    Also, don't get apple to upgrade the ram. They'll charge 3x the price for the bits when you can do it yourself (instructions included in the box). However to upgrade other things such as the hdd yourself may break the warranty and will require some knowledge although there are many tutorials out there.

    Too close to call IMHO:



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    Magic_monkey;3867367

    In regard to 3d apps etc. the new mbp has a 512mb dedicated graphics … In regard to 3d apps etc. the new mbp has a 512mb dedicated graphics card.Now look at the size of a windows laptop with that in it.... lolAlso, don't get apple to upgrade the ram. They'll charge 3x the price for the bits when you can do it yourself (instructions included in the box). However to upgrade other things such as the hdd yourself may break the warranty and will require some knowledge although there are many tutorials out there.



    Instructions for upgrading the HDD are included with the instructions for the new MBP. It is located alongside the battery under the bottom cover so it will not invalidate the warranty of your system and is very easy to change unlike the previous gen MBP! :thumbsup:

    I think they've taking a cue from the PS3 on that front!

    Its worth upgrading Ram and HDD yourself, you'll save quite a bit. I went for a 2.8GHz with 4GB Ram but down graded the HDD to a 160GB 7200rpm, I plan to upgrade when I can get a 500GB 7200rpm!

    I have used Photoshop on a PC and a Mac. Much prefer the Mac and it's so much easier to run and use than a PC.

    My son has just bought a MacBookPro to replace his MacBook.

    Although both of us still have to use PCs, neither of us will buy a PC again.

    Software and compatibility problems may have been an issue for Macs but Apple are continually providing updates. If any software crashes, Apple ask for an immediate report to help solve any problems.

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    Magic_monkey;3867309

    Please don't offend me with such a naive answer.Look at ]macupdate.com to … Please don't offend me with such a naive answer.Look at ]macupdate.com to see what is available. Search for file formats to see what apps are compatible.If you need help with getting any apps, give me a shout :whistling:



    Magic_monkey;3867367

    In regard to 3d apps etc. the new mbp has a 512mb dedicated graphics … In regard to 3d apps etc. the new mbp has a 512mb dedicated graphics card.Now look at the size of a windows laptop with that in it.... lolAlso, don't get apple to upgrade the ram. They'll charge 3x the price for the bits when you can do it yourself (instructions included in the box). However to upgrade other things such as the hdd yourself may break the warranty and will require some knowledge although there are many tutorials out there.



    Thank you so much for your help and advice!

    Which one should i got for? 2.4 and upgrade or 2.53??
    store.apple.com/uk_…pro

    i will give u a shout :whistling:

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    thehitman;3867415

    Instructions for upgrading the HDD are included with the instructions for … Instructions for upgrading the HDD are included with the instructions for the new MBP. It is located alongside the battery under the bottom cover so it will not invalidate the warranty of your system and is very easy to change unlike the previous gen MBP! :thumbsup:I think they've taking a cue from the PS3 on that front!Its worth upgrading Ram and HDD yourself, you'll save quite a bit. I went for a 2.8GHz with 4GB Ram but down graded the HDD to a 160GB 7200rpm, I plan to upgrade when I can get a 500GB 7200rpm!



    hi!

    you have a new 2.8ghz one? i can onlye see 2.4 and 2.53 on mac site? store.apple.com/uk_…pro

    please advice?? :oops:
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