Managers texting me to request overtime - opinions

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Found 23rd Oct 2016
I work for a supermarket and I was not aware that my mobile number when I applied would be passed on to the managers for them to text me when they need people to come in for overtime.

Overtime isn't compulsory by contract.

It didn't bother me at the beginning, but I do feel like they should ask that when I am at work and not harass me at home and text me when I haven't specifically given them my permission to do so.
I feel like it's a clever tactic to manipulate people into doing them favours by being friendly.

What do you think?

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Define managers?

HR should be phoning you at the request of a department/duty manager. Yes, managers shouldn't be texting you personally unless you've given them permission.

Just reply. Sorry unable to make it...??? End of...


Did s/he are your permission or let me know before, they might text you for OT opportunities?


Edited by: "MarioMan" 23rd Oct 2016

they have no right to contact outside of work hours. they can only ask you if your in your work place. tell them to stop and they will. just left retail after 13 years lol.

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dtovey89

Define managers?HR should be phoning you at the request of a … Define managers?HR should be phoning you at the request of a department/duty manager. Yes, managers shouldn't be texting you personally unless you've given them permission.


It's not HR, it's the managers of my department that do it. Now I have the problem that if I wanted to change my number, I would most likely need to tell the managers as well!

mr_geese

It's not HR, it's the managers of my department that do it. Now I have … It's not HR, it's the managers of my department that do it. Now I have the problem that if I wanted to change my number, I would most likely need to tell the managers as well!



I think you're slightly over thinking this one. Either go in and get paid more, ask them not to text you or simply ignore the text.

If you don't want them to have your number inform HR about your concerns.

Just text them back asking them not to contact you via text on your days off (or ignore it and then tell them in person when you're next at work)

Just get an app that auto reads/replies saying no, which you only turn off if you fancy some overtime..

mr_geese

It's not HR, it's the managers of my department that do it. Now I have … It's not HR, it's the managers of my department that do it. Now I have the problem that if I wanted to change my number, I would most likely need to tell the managers as well!



The joy of dual sim mobiles. The one I use for work gets plastered everywhere so I don't much care if people have it. If I'm on holiday or weekend or day off I just turn off the sim in the settings. Calls then go to voicemail and text wait. My second sim is always on for family and friends.

I think that they have breached data protection legislation in releasing your number. If the phone is subsidised by your employer then fine.
Edited by: "john52" 23rd Oct 2016

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My problem is that I don't want to **** them off by constantly turning down overtime and I give in sometimes so I don't look bad; since overtime is entirely at my discretion, I shouldn't feel bad if I don't want to do it and with them texting "please", "can you help me this day etc", I feel bad saying no. I get texts almost everyday by the way.

My managers at both my jobs have my personal mobile number, I don't have an issue if either of them text me, but they also know that I might not be free to text them back , so they don't expect immediate responses. If the text is just an offer of overtime then I wouldn't worry , if you are feeling pressured into doing extra hours you don't want to then have a chat with your manager at work about it.
Also unless you talk to them , how do they know you aren't happy with the situation. Eg, I never do overtime for one of my jobs however a colleague will do as many hours as he is offered , but we have both explained this to our manager. If you don't want to be offered the overtime then let your manager know, if its the text you object to ask them not to bother asking you unless they know in advance .

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john52

I think that they have breached data protection legislation in releasing … I think that they have breached data protection legislation in releasing your number. If the phone is subsidised by your employer then fine.


No, they certainly don't supply phones to us shop assistants

If it was a one off Id consider doing it but as you say they do it regularly Id tell them to stop as you have a busy social life outside work. They cant hold that against you.

add the number to block list on your mobile simple

I work nightshift at Asda and all the managers have my number anyways, they text the odd time to ask if I'll come in... I can tell them to jog on though, they all know what I'm like and have decent craic back.
I always make deals, telling them I'll do it for another night off and they always go for it.

If on the other hand you're not as friendly with them as I am, they have no right to text and have broken one of the rule books.
Never feel bad about saying no, its your life... Live it how you want and enjoy the time off, I'm sure there are plenty other staff to ask
Edited by: "Toon_army" 23rd Oct 2016

Ignore the texts unless you want to do the overtime. Simple.
Never reply saying no.
Just ignore if you dont want to do it.

I don't think that being contacted outside of working hours for something like that is a problem. Giving something back to your employer is not a bad thing if you like your job. Going that extra mile at work is what will make you valued by employer. I don't like employers who are slave drivers but for good employers, i don't mind giving something back if it is a small thing.

Banned

Or be happy they're offering you the opportunity for extra work. It doesn't sound like you're compelled to do anything other than accept if you want to. There's a good chance you're just on a batch sms list, and there's nothing personal happening here at all.

It's all in your head. If they think you're not doing your fair share of overtime they'll speak with you. That would be a different situation whatever you're contract states. As I've already stated, there is nothing personal going on here.

Edited by: "cchopps" 23rd Oct 2016

Tbf if they were trying to pressure you into working overtime it'd make much more sense to phone rather than text.

Most find it easier to say no in text than through a voice call.

Talk about going ott, it's just a message asking if you want to work overtime? My managers used to do this at Tesco and I didn't mind it, I either replied sure or no thanks, nothing bad can come of it.

mr_geese

My problem is that I don't want to **** them off by constantly turning … My problem is that I don't want to **** them off by constantly turning down overtime and I give in sometimes so I don't look bad; since overtime is entirely at my discretion, I shouldn't feel bad if I don't want to do it and with them texting "please", "can you help me this day etc", I feel bad saying no. I get texts almost everyday by the way.



​ next time your in your work, speak to them and say, "look i don't mind doing overtime on such a day, but on the weekend I'm busy" for example. they'll always need you more than you think. if they can't cover overtime they need to do. and believe me they don't want to do it lol. just tell them straight, don't txt me on my day off, if you want me to do overtime, ask me when I'm in work. a good manager should plan ahead and see when they are short and need cover.

Banned

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don't be so workshy just kidding I'd tell them to feck right off X)

I've never been text but back when I was in retail they used to call reasonably often and if I said I couldn't I had plans, some would say well doing what, which is rude and out of order. Anyway I told them that I was blocking the number (which I did) and if they needed me they could ask me during a shift.
Edited by: "dcx_badass" 23rd Oct 2016

My manager knows not to bother asking me.

As already said, tell them that you will never work on xxxx days but don't mind them asking you for xxx times. They can then rule you out of certain times immediately.

do it when it suits, be 'busy' when it doesn't
this will all count towards appraisals etc for flexibility and being a team player etc

What answer do you want to hear??? They have breached your human rights and you are entitled to £15,000 compensation? in this day and age some would be glad to be offered the opportunity to earn a few extra £. It sounds like there may be other issues underlying than a manager texting to offer extra hours!

I would just block the number. But then I am anti social and find it **** enough going to work when I have to!

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joesmum

I would just block the number. But then I am anti social and find it … I would just block the number. But then I am anti social and find it **** enough going to work when I have to!


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2pacslilhomie

What answer do you want to hear??? They have breached your human rights … What answer do you want to hear??? They have breached your human rights and you are entitled to £15,000 compensation? in this day and age some would be glad to be offered the opportunity to earn a few extra £. It sounds like there may be other issues underlying than a manager texting to offer extra hours!



I haven't mentioned I want compensation or reporting anyone. Where have I said they breached human rights and other rubbish like that?
I just don't think they should have given out my number without telling me first. I worked at another supermarket before and was never contacted by managers outside work so this was new to me.
I don't think they should do that outside of work as I'm not their friend they can text and my job does not require me to be available outside of my working hours.
I've done some overtime when I could. I was also asked personally to help out on a certain day and I did, despite the fact I had to pay for a taxi to come home as it was Sunday morning and no buses (I don't drive).
Edited by: "mr_geese" 23rd Oct 2016

Some people have real problems. You either do the OT or you don't. You don't have to do anything your not contractually obliged to do.

Has your phone got a block facility if so just block their number

How do you know they only texting you ? Mabey all staff numbers are in a little group and is sent out as a bulk to see who is available,

Phone the police and tell them you're being stalked by a sex crazed work stalker, give them the number and hey presto.

I had to do the same because of Miles136 and Deek not so long ago

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fisco2001

How do you know they only texting you ? Mabey all staff numbers are in a … How do you know they only texting you ? Mabey all staff numbers are in a little group and is sent out as a bulk to see who is available,


Yeah, some texts are sent to everyone as they are addressed to everyone. Some are sent specifically to me. Still, I would have thought it nice to be informed my mobile number would be given to the managers. Also, I was on PAYG till a week ago so texts back were costing me as I had no bundle for texts or calls since I very rarely needed to call or text from my phone.

Banned

Spit in their face and post a video of it on youtube.

Oh wait, that was for something else! lol

The problem is, they probably don't know they need you until someone calls in sick, they can't plan for that days before so it makes sense to contact anyone not working.

My employer does this, I often get texts / calls, it doesn't bother me in the slightest. It makes more sense for a manager to contact you than it does for someone in HR, especially when emergency cover is required at short notice.

I think you're complaint is a bit OTT to be honest - they're your manager at the end of the day. If they were calling you up to complain that your work wasn't up to scratch I'd perhaps understand, but the fact that they're offering you overtime suggests they hold you in high regard and have faith in your ability to do your job.

It's really not a big deal. You can always just say no.

Non-issue, only a text. Read, either say yes or ignore. Being a shop assistant I hardly think your personal life is that hectic and exciting for a simple text to interfere much.

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miikeyblue

The problem is, they probably don't know they need you until someone … The problem is, they probably don't know they need you until someone calls in sick, they can't plan for that days before so it makes sense to contact anyone not working.My employer does this, I often get texts / calls, it doesn't bother me in the slightest. It makes more sense for a manager to contact you than it does for someone in HR, especially when emergency cover is required at short notice.I think you're complaint is a bit OTT to be honest - they're your manager at the end of the day. If they were calling you up to complain that your work wasn't up to scratch I'd perhaps understand, but the fact that they're offering you overtime suggests they hold you in high regard and have faith in your ability to do your job.It's really not a big deal. You can always just say no.



Well they should plan the work so that if the odd person is sick the rest of the people who are in can cover for them without issue. Unless there are several people off sick that is.
They always seem to have just about enough people or less to do the job and then panic if someone doesn't show up. They wouldn't need so much overtime if they hired people on more contracted hours from the start and if they hired the adequate amount of staff to do the job comfortably.
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