Found 18th Sep 2010
hi has anyone had to claim maternity allowence through the job centre, if so how long does it take to process. i was meant to get my first months maternity pay on monday from my employer but i have recieved a letter in the post today saying they are not paying it and i have to claim from job centre, which means im a months money down now till its sorted, why they have only just told me now i have no idea.

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hi im on maternity allowance atm i think it took about 3 weeks to come thorugh
how many hours do u work?

I thought your employer had to pay you the statutory rate ?

Original Poster

i returned from my last maternity leave in april this year and i was pregnant when i returned, i cut my hours down to 30 but i had a few weeks off sick due to suffering with really bad headaches and spd. i handed in my matb1 form ages ago to my work, i just wished they would of told me sooner they wont pay it.

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pink-ka

i returned from my last maternity leave in april this year and i was … i returned from my last maternity leave in april this year and i was pregnant when i returned, i cut my hours down to 30 but i had a few weeks off sick due to suffering with really bad headaches and spd. i handed in my matb1 form ages ago to my work, i just wished they would of told me sooner they wont pay it.



Employers don't like paying for time off.

Get a new job soon x x

Original Poster

edjaned

hi im on maternity allowance atm i think it took about 3 weeks to come … hi im on maternity allowance atm i think it took about 3 weeks to come thorughhow many hours do u work?



can you go into the job centre and get the form and fill it in there and then or do you have to send it off, ive found one online that you can fill in and print off.

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pink-ka

can you go into the job centre and get the form and fill it in there and … can you go into the job centre and get the form and fill it in there and then or do you have to send it off, ive found one online that you can fill in and print off.



I'd just print it and get it filled in today and take it on monday.

Original Poster

DLM

Employers don't like paying for time off.Get a new job soon x x



i definitely wont be going back to work for them , if i wasnt pregnant again then i wouldnt of gone back after my daughter.

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pink-ka

i definitely wont be going back to work for them , if i wasnt pregnant … i definitely wont be going back to work for them , if i wasnt pregnant again then i wouldnt of gone back after my daughter.


eh, so you only went back to work cos you were pregnant again hoping for more maternity pay? Thats shameful.

No wonder some small business employers dont like employing women of child bearing age! oO

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pink-ka

i definitely wont be going back to work for them , if i wasnt pregnant … i definitely wont be going back to work for them , if i wasnt pregnant again then i wouldnt of gone back after my daughter.



Good luck with your pregnancy x x

Banned

you wont be eligible for maternity pay anyway as you fail this test:-

Who is eligible for SMP?

To qualify for SMP you must have been:

* employed by the same employer continuously for at least 26 weeks into the 15th week before the week your baby is due (the qualifying week)

Original Poster

csiman

you wont be eligible for maternity pay anyway as you fail this test:-Who … you wont be eligible for maternity pay anyway as you fail this test:-Who is eligible for SMP?To qualify for SMP you must have been:* employed by the same employer continuously for at least 26 weeks into the 15th week before the week your baby is due (the qualifying week)



i didnt go back just for the maternity pay, i went back as there was no point in leaving to go to another job when i wouldnt be there long before i went on maternity leave, so it seemed the easiest option rather than messing about, plus i have been employed with the company for 7years, the reason they cant pay me it this time is i didnt earn enough due to cutting my hours and time off sick.

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What a quality employee, no wonder your employer doesnt want to pay. This is why maternity leave is such a bad thing, don't get me started on paternity leave.

I can just imagine the first day back after milking the company, hi everyone i'm back and btw I am pregnant again. Facepalms all round.
Edited by: "pinkleponkle" 18th Sep 2010

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pink-ka

i returned from my last maternity leave in april this year and i was … i returned from my last maternity leave in april this year and i was pregnant when i returned, i cut my hours down to 30 but i had a few weeks off sick due to suffering with really bad headaches and spd. i handed in my matb1 form ages ago to my work, i just wished they would of told me sooner they wont pay it.


they are probably annoyed at you for being pregnant all the time, don't blame them to be honest

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pinkleponkle

What a quality employee, no wonder your employer doesnt want to pay. This … What a quality employee, no wonder your employer doesnt want to pay. This is why maternity leave is such a bad thing, don't get me started on paternity leave.I can just imagine the first day back after milking the company, hi everyone i'm back and btw I am pregnant again. Facepalms all round.



its people like you what **** me off, i didnt ask for your opinion on me being pregnant, so if you have nothing nice to say then dont comment, i wasnt milking the company i was entitled to maternity leave like any other pregnant women out there, i take it you havent got kids if your so against people having maternity leave and paternity leave. at least i work and dont claim benifits to look after my child i have worked since being 16 and never been a dole dosser like some mothers who cant even be botherd to work a day in their lives.

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DaveLister

they are probably annoyed at you for being pregnant all the time, don't … they are probably annoyed at you for being pregnant all the time, don't blame them to be honest



when am i supposed to have children then, when my employer says so, its my choice when i want to have a child and i am at a respectable age have a partner and bought a house and i am not some 14/15 year old sleeping around and doesnt know who the dad is.
Edited by: "pink-ka" 18th Sep 2010

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tinkerbell28

Ok personal opinions aside, I'd speak to the job centre and get this … Ok personal opinions aside, I'd speak to the job centre and get this thread locked, you won't get help here.Erm if you are still employed by them I am not 100% sure but I think they have to pay you and could be breaking the law by refusing. As you have been employed by them, regardless of being on maternity and have since returned to work.You need advice asap from CAB/DWP I know someone in my ANC in your position and although their work didn't like it they had to pay, so see what happens when you ring.




hi thanks for not judging me, the reason they are saying they cant pay me is beacause i havent earnt enough, i will ring somewhere on monday and find out where i stand, i am more annoyed at them leaving it 2days before im due to get my monthly wage to tell me as now i am a months pay down till it gets sorted.

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tinkerbell28

Ok personal opinions aside, I'd speak to the job centre and get this … Ok personal opinions aside, I'd speak to the job centre and get this thread locked, you won't get help here.Erm if you are still employed by them I am not 100% sure but I think they have to pay you and could be breaking the law by refusing. As you have been employed by them, regardless of being on maternity and have since returned to work.You need advice asap from CAB/DWP I know someone in my ANC in your position and although their work didn't like it they had to pay, so see what happens when you ring.


they dont have to pay (see link above)

To qualify for SMP you must have been:

* employed by the same employer continuously for at least 26 weeks into the 15th week before the week your baby is due (the qualifying week)


OP cannot have worked 26 continuous weeks after returning from maternity leave in April

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tinkerbell28

Yes she has, she HAS been employed by the same employer for 26 weeks, the … Yes she has, she HAS been employed by the same employer for 26 weeks, the fact she was on maternity is neither herre nor there, she was under their employment.Worked which is the word you used and employed which is the word used as criterea are two different meanings entirely.Like I say op I know someone in your position and the employer had to pay.Op do speak to the job centre as it all depends on salary etc, etc, but they couldn't refuse you because you have been on mat pay I know that, so yes see what the thresholds are etc.


Fair enough then. Although one wonders how small businesses manage to survive if they have to continually pay out in circumstances like this
Edited by: "csiman" 18th Sep 2010

pink-ka

its people like you what **** me off, i didnt ask for your opinion on me … its people like you what **** me off, i didnt ask for your opinion on me being pregnant, so if you have nothing nice to say then dont comment, i wasnt milking the company i was entitled to maternity leave like any other pregnant women out there, i take it you havent got kids if your so against people having maternity leave and paternity leave. at least i work and dont claim benifits to look after my child i have worked since being 16 and never been a dole dosser like some mothers who cant even be botherd to work a day in their lives.


Yes I have a daughter thanks and took just the day of her birth off, it's not the fact that you took maternity leave it's more the fact you went back afterwards already pregnant again when really you should have just resigned. Nothing wrong with having children, but you shouldnt expect your employer to foot the bill so quickly after they have already covered you previously.

Best thing to do is speak to citizens advice or the job center directly to see where you stand cos it should have been obvious that your actions would rub people up the wrong way on here.

It was my choice, I am behind maternity leave 100% but a man really doesnt need to have time off so I was off for my daughter's birth and back in the next day.

Your text here

Read that, it's really good. I had MA for my first as I was already pregnant when they took me on (I was very clear about that at the time) then SMP for my second, then MA for my third as I, like you, didn't meet the earnings rule for SMP having had too much time off sick in the specific qualifying period. You will definitely qualify for MA, and as long as you complete the form accurately it'll come through very quickly. Don't worry about what other people say - you're entitled to what you get so get it.

In fact IIRC I got more MA than I would have been entitled to SMP, as it's a flat rate, not based on your earnings, and as I'd had significant time off and not earned much my average wage was really low.

tinkerbell28

So what's you point in saying you returned to work a day after the birth? … So what's you point in saying you returned to work a day after the birth? It's irrelevant if you are a man you don't even qualify for maternity leave oOSome men don't even take a day off for the birth of their kids so it's not a biggie is it?



It's men like this, and opinions like his that make the workplace intimidating for pregnant women and those wishing to become pregnant. I imagien there was no paternity leave available to him at the time, as if there was, and he was my husband I'd have been awfully cross that he went straight back to work. Employers, and colleagues, are utterly entitled to their personal opinions, but if they were voiced to me like his previous comments, at work, I'd be complaining. I'm sure there are rules about discrimination and bullying in the workplace.

op is it a big company or small firm

Original Poster

csamual

op is it a big company or small firm



its a small company who own 4 residential homes. it doesnt bother me that i have to claim from the job centre its the point i only recieved a letter this morning from work telling me this when i was expecting my first months maternity pay on monday. so now i will be struggling for money till the claim gets sorted. as people have said above if my partner didnt take 2 weeks paternity i wouldnt be impressed, thats valuable time to bond with the child and let the mother have a rest, i could hardly move after having my daughter so i would of struggled at home on my own with a new born baby.

Tinkerbelle is 100% correct in everythign she has wrote, it does not matter you have only just come back to work after maternity leave....your still classed as working all the way through maternity leave so should make no difference at all if you have become pregnant again

i think your workplace are trying it on....
Edited by: "ilovepink" 18th Sep 2010

When broken employment can be taken as continuous

you have taken a period of statutory maternity leave, adoption leave, paternity leave or parental leave (in which case, that period counts towards your period of continuous employment)

print off this page from the DWP and take it into your boss, and use a highlighter to show the above

i had to do the same before and they were being complete tools about it after i threatened to get legal advice they couldnt do enough for me

dwp.gov.uk/pub…ty/

Can someone clarify - Is it not the government that pays the money to the employer, that is why they need the matb1 form so as your employer can claim the money from the government., So it shouldn't matter how big or small a company they are not paying it.

It's just occurred to me that your employer has an obligation to respond to your maternity leave declaration within a reasonable time (this used to be 28 days from receipt of your letter, but I've been out of the game a while, and it may have changed = plus it depends when and how you notified them). If you're really peeved about the delay seek advice from the CAB and maybe file a grievance with your employer. Not much will come of it, but they might learn to treat pregnant people a bit better in future. It all depends on how good their HR people are, and how regularly they deal with it - where I last worked I was the only woman there, and the first - they had NEVER dealt with SMP, the right to paid leave for antenatals or anything. Good job I was their HR person!

It seems rather harsh that you started a topic asking how long it would take for the Job Centre to pay maternity pay and you ended up getting a lecture in morals.

vicki4903

Can someone clarify - Is it not the government that pays the money to the … Can someone clarify - Is it not the government that pays the money to the employer, that is why they need the matb1 form so as your employer can claim the money from the government., So it shouldn't matter how big or small a company they are not paying it.



When I dealt with it, the employer paid the SMP but could claim back up to 92% of it. So it does cost the employer albeit a teeny bit. I think the NI contributions are paid by the employer too... but I was HR not payroll. Just what I 'knew'.

dungavel

It seems rather harsh that you started a topic asking how long it would … It seems rather harsh that you started a topic asking how long it would take for the Job Centre to pay maternity pay and you ended up getting a lecture in morals.



Tis the trolls, they come out in force when they have an issue with someone claiming benefits!

I've just googled and small employers can actually claim back 100% PLUS a 4.5% compensation!! So they can BENEFIT from paying SMP!

Original Poster

thats what i thought, some companies pay the full wages as maternity pay, my friend got full pay whilst on maternity leave where as my company only pay smp which they claim back from the government i think. i just hope its not going to take long to sort out and i dont get past from place to place trying to sort out whos wrong and whos right, i will be on the phone on monday to see where i stand, when i first returned to work in april i asked several times if i was entitled to smp again and they never gave me an answer, i handed in my matb1 form they never said anything and then now i got a letter from them today. ive not been in work for nearly 6 weeks as i took 2weeks holiday before my leave so surely they could of told me then that i wasnt entitled to it. i handed in my matb1 form at the end of July and i had previously given them a letter stating when i wanted to go on maternity leave, i read somewhere that they are meant to get back to me writing stating when my return date to work is and they never did this last time or this time. to be honest i dont think they have a clue, when i returned last time they tried making me go back before i was due back. hopefully i will find a new job before my maternity leave runs out so i dont have to return there.

vicki4903

Can someone clarify - Is it not the government that pays the money to the … Can someone clarify - Is it not the government that pays the money to the employer, that is why they need the matb1 form so as your employer can claim the money from the government., So it shouldn't matter how big or small a company they are not paying it.



yeah that what i thought....i think your right

Penny Saver

I've just googled and small employers can actually claim back 100% PLUS a … I've just googled and small employers can actually claim back 100% PLUS a 4.5% compensation!! So they can BENEFIT from paying SMP!



hopefully OP will get an apology, doubt it thou

pink-ka

thats what i thought, some companies pay the full wages as maternity pay, … thats what i thought, some companies pay the full wages as maternity pay, my friend got full pay whilst on maternity leave where as my company only pay smp which they claim back from the government i think. i just hope its not going to take long to sort out and i dont get past from place to place trying to sort out whos wrong and whos right, i will be on the phone on monday to see where i stand, when i first returned to work in april i asked several times if i was entitled to smp again and they never gave me an answer, i handed in my matb1 form they never said anything and then now i got a letter from them today. ive not been in work for nearly 6 weeks as i took 2weeks holiday before my leave so surely they could of told me then that i wasnt entitled to it. i handed in my matb1 form at the end of July and i had previously given them a letter stating when i wanted to go on maternity leave, i read somewhere that they are meant to get back to me writing stating when my return date to work is and they never did this last time or this time. to be honest i dont think they have a clue, when i returned last time they tried making me go back before i was due back. hopefully i will find a new job before my maternity leave runs out so i dont have to return there.



stand your ground

try giving acas a ring monday they were very helpful to me ACAS

Or if you're in a Union - ring them first.
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