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    Mediums-can they really talk to the "other side?"

    Just reading the story in todays paper about jades mother having conversations with her daughter via a medium-jade has apparently told her that marrying jack tweed was "the biggest mistake of my life"

    Now,this is NOT a jade thread-just using this as an illustration-does anyone believe that there are people who can talk to the dead? Personally I think people taking money from grieving relatives to "put them in touch" with deceased loved ones are beneath contempt.

    Dont believe a word of any of it myself-whats your opinion?

    *Mod edit. Comment from user below removed. Thread spoiling.
    - kapows

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    nope I dont think they can

    inb4 it gets spammed though

    A debate on HUKD, ARE YOU MAD?

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    I believe that some can but a lot are out to make money and take advantage of grieving people x

    i wouldn't pay for a psychic reading or sitting with a medium, but i've had too many unexplained strange incidents which could be passed off as paranormal, so until i am proven either way i will take a back seat

    If by talking to the otherside you mean the otherside of the curtain next to them then maybe, but to the dead? no way. How can they when we just cease to exist when we die?

    i dont believe they can but i know a few grieving people that have felt better after speaking to them about a lost love one
    its a shame there are a few out there that are just after the money instead of trying to ease someones pain

    Be very careful, in the news today, a prisoner has escaped from wansworth prison, he is a ruthless conman who tricked widows into thinking he could talk to their deceased loved ones. He's 3ft 2", dark hair, brown eyes.

    A small, medium at large!

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    Of course they can't. Anyone who's ever done even the slightest examination into the subject will know that they are all frauds and charlatans.

    Some may be well-intentioned, but that doesn't mean they're genuine.

    splatsplatsplat;5922460

    Be very careful, in the news today, a prisoner has escaped from wansworth … Be very careful, in the news today, a prisoner has escaped from wansworth prison, he is a ruthless conman who tricked widows into thinking he could talk to their deceased loved ones. He's 3ft 2", dark hair, brown eyes.A small, medium at large!


    :roll: oh dear lol

    maybe you should change the question to "does anyone believe in journalists?"

    i believe i have seen a few and some of the one said he just couldnt of known

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    Tinkytayls;5922556

    i believe i have seen a few and some of the one said he just couldnt of … i believe i have seen a few and some of the one said he just couldnt of known



    I've seen a magician who caught a bullet in his teeth.

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    I had a weird experience with 'a medium' I know once. She looked at me strangely and then said oh I can see a little boy watching over you......She'd never said anything like it before and I had lost a baby boy since the last time I had seen her and she had no way of knowing that.

    They used to laugh at the men that said the world was round and not flat.

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    queenlush;5922628

    They used to laugh at the men that said the world was round and not flat.



    If you did the slightest piece of research into cold reading and micro-gestures then you'd know that this is a silly comparison to make.

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    The Crow;5922608

    I had a weird experience with 'a medium' I know once. She looked at me … I had a weird experience with 'a medium' I know once. She looked at me strangely and then said oh I can see a little boy watching over you......She'd never said anything like it before and I had lost a baby boy since the last time I had seen her and she had no way of knowing that.



    There's a number of fairly simple explanations for that.

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    FilthAndFurry;5922661

    There's a number of fairly simple explanations for that.



    yeah i know it was freaky at the time though!

    No proof either way and there will probably never will be

    I have a friend who reads tarots and performs reiki and is very sought after for her skills,whatever she does definitely seems to work in some way and she has helped a lot of people positively.

    Obviously a lot of people jump on the bandwagon with less then genuine intentions.

    FilthAndFurry;5922652

    If you did the slightest piece of research into cold reading and … If you did the slightest piece of research into cold reading and micro-gestures then you'd know that this is a silly comparison to make.



    Strangely enough i haven't but i do know that this is how a lot of so called mediums read people and hats off it's a very clever thing to be able to do. I think i'm trying to say that until there is solid proof, things will always be mocked and poo pooed as ridiculous.

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    boothy;5922671

    No proof either way and there will probably never will be



    Actually that's not true. There's plenty of proof that it isn't true. Many well-known 'mediums' have been discredited.

    In fact their methods have been in the public domain for a long time. There have been numerous challenges by the likes of James Randi with cash prizes.

    But none has ever taken the challenge. Maybe they don't think it would be right to take his money when they have grieving sons, daughters, parents, lovers and siblings to fleece....sorry, help.

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    tinkerbell28;5922711

    It's going to be one of those threads, the powers of emotion vs, … It's going to be one of those threads, the powers of emotion vs, scientific fact I am afraid, I do agree with you, I looked into it quite a bit myself.



    Houdini was a famous sceptic. He spent a lot of his life discrediting psychics using the skills he picked up as an illusionist, much like Derren Brown.

    Funnily enough, pick-up artists use some of the same techniques. I don't know if 'tricking' women into bed is morally right either.

    tinkerbell28;5922699

    Everyone has their beliefs, I do believe in the afterlife just not how … Everyone has their beliefs, I do believe in the afterlife just not how mediums potray it. I have seen Derek Acohra twice, he was crap, I was a believer until I saW Derren Brown, he picked me out of the audience, I swear he knew me, the things that I had not even told anyone, it's all psychology, he hates mediums and won't hide his detest for them, sometimes he will explain parts of his show, other times he won't.Everyone who thinks a medium must be talking to the dead, as they could not possibly know, I would say research it, even if it is only watching Derren Brown live, you will be shocked, I was.But it's what ever brings you the most comfort I suppose:) He turned me from a believer into a grade A cynic, although I have had "unexplained experiences" I don't think any medium people you will see are in contact with your dead relatives.



    Agreed,the TV mediums are crap.

    I do however believe that there are some people with genuine powers in other areas such as tarot,reiki and suchlike,have seen too many things not to.

    My friend has told me stuff that nobody could know that would happen to me in general really random stuff(she had no reason to con me) that I laughed at when first heard,but it has all occurred.

    I find it all very very interesting indeed

    i went to see sally morgan last year
    up until then i wasnt sure what to think about mediums, but after seeing her on tv she seemed so accurate and genuine that i thought i would go along to one of her shows
    needless to say she was crap she didnt get anything right about anyone and most of the show she talked about herself and her "powers" ,i wish i had looked at her reviews b4 hand as they were appauling

    Well I don't know if I believe them or not but..

    Whilst my mum was in the cafe at her work a person approached her (she didn't know the women) and said "sorry to bother you but your dad (past away) has kept bothering me to tell you that your mum will have a problem with her leg, and said not worry as it was nothing serious"

    Low and behold her mum had bruising come up on her leg and a trip to the docters and some drugs later the bruising sub-sided.

    There was no way the women could have known that.

    boothy;5922779

    Agreed,the TV mediums are crap.I do however believe that there are some … Agreed,the TV mediums are crap.I do however believe that there are some people with genuine powers in other areas such as tarot,reiki and suchlike,have seen too many things not to.My friend has told me stuff that nobody could know that would happen to me in general really random stuff that I laughed at when first heard,but it has all occurred.I find it all very very interesting indeed



    I think there are people out there with unexplained talents, maybe really good intuition? the mind is a very powerful thing, but i think the ones that try and make money from grieving relatives are a disgrace. One last comment from me though...why do police sometimes call psychics in to help find missing people or bodies?

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    boothy;5922779

    My friend has told me stuff that nobody could know that would happen to … My friend has told me stuff that nobody could know that would happen to me in general really random stuff(she had no reason to con me) that I laughed at when first heard,but it has all occurred.



    James Randi is still offering a $1 million reward to someone who can demonstrate paranormal abilities under scientific conditions.

    You should tell your friend to go for it.:-D

    nope..

    marrying jack tweed was the biggest mistake of jade goodys life?



    hmmmmmmmmmmmm:?:?



    http://i552.photobucket.com/albums/jj338/krushcore/big_brother_jade_goody.jpg

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    queenlush;5922815

    I think there are people out there with unexplained talents, maybe really … I think there are people out there with unexplained talents, maybe really good intuition? the mind is a very powerful thing, but i think the ones that try and make money from grieving relatives are a disgrace. One last comment from me though...why do police sometimes call psychics in to help find missing people or bodies?



    Because the police have low entry requirements?

    Again, do a bit of research into how effective these things are. I'd start with Sylvia Browne.

    I think there's still the video on youtube where she tells some parents that their abducted child had been murdered and buried.

    I'm sure that child laughed it off 4 years later when he was actually found....alive.

    FilthAndFurry;5922860

    Because the police have low entry requirements? Again, do a bit of … Because the police have low entry requirements? Again, do a bit of research into how effective these things are. I'd start with Sylvia Browne.I think there's still the video on youtube where she tells some parents that their abducted child had been murdered and buried.I'm sure that child laughed it off 4 years later when he was actually found....alive.



    i will make it my task for this evening :thumbsup:

    transit;5922858

    marrying jack tweed was the biggest mistake of jade goodys … marrying jack tweed was the biggest mistake of jade goodys life?hmmmmmmmmmmmm:?:?



    please i've not eaten yet

    queenlush;5922919

    please i've not eaten yet



    i hope that please wasnt a plead for more:w00t:

    transit;5922937

    i hope that please wasnt a plead for more:w00t:



    Do me a favour lol

    queenlush;5922973

    Do me a favour lol



    ok youre pardoned:)

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    OMG! that picture has totally put me off everything

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    kapows;5923097

    OMG! that picture has totally put me off everything



    Likewise your spoiling of the OP is out of order.

    If I ever went, I would want to disprove them, all though I know there are Ghosts, I do feel that people take advantage of other people. There must be good mediums out there as well.

    I also think the same of Tarot readers

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    Butterflies;5923342

    If I ever went, I would want to disprove them, all though I know there … If I ever went, I would want to disprove them, all though I know there are Ghosts, I do feel that people take advantage of other people. There must be good mediums out there as well.I also think the same of Tarot readers



    No there aren't. There's never been any evidence for them.

    FilthAndFurry;5923410

    No there aren't. There's never been any evidence for them.



    Yeah Yeah!

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    Butterflies;5923430

    Yeah Yeah!



    Seriously, if they did exist wouldn't there be more evidence or sightings? I've never seen one. They've never been caught on camera despite all the 'ghostwatch' shows.

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    Unfortunately, its impossible to separate the topic from who had the message. Obviously it can't be proved she is lying, but I wouldn't be surprised if this "story" wasn't even her idea. (Max Clifford just doesn't know how low he can get!)

    I certainly dont believe in an afterlife, so it goes without saying, the whole thing in general is merely a deception and money making machine. Obviously you are free to disagree. I'm merely posting my thoughts.



    black gerbil1;5922368

    nope I dont think they caninb4 it gets spammed though :pA debate on HUKD, … nope I dont think they caninb4 it gets spammed though :pA debate on HUKD, ARE YOU MAD?



    Anyone expecting you to debate, certainly would be. Did you have any interest in the topic, or just felt like highlighting what everyone already knows?
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