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    Microsoft drops the ban hammer

    According to reports, Microsoft have banned 600,000 xbox's from it's live service for "violating the terms of use" of the service..

    Microsoft won't reveal details on how they found the violated accounts,


    They really hit the button this time around

    71 Comments

    :w00t: brb :w00t:


    I jest , im a good boy

    that'll be lots of upset geeks

    Yeah - They have these banning spree's a lot.. and especially around the release of high profile games.. AKA MW2. They also did it around release of Gears of War 2. Good on them. Plus its not for their benefit really, sure more money for them but very little compared to the publisher and developer... GOOD JOB MS

    addyliver;6856287

    that'll be lots of upset geeks



    lol:w00t:

    Original Poster

    Bigpoppaad;6856292

    Yeah - They have these banning spree's a lot.. and especially around the … Yeah - They have these banning spree's a lot.. and especially around the release of high profile games.. AKA MW2. They also did it around release of Gears of War 2. Good on them. Plus its not for their benefit really, sure more money for them but very little compared to the publisher and developer... GOOD JOB MS



    more games sales = more money for M$ ... cos developers have to pay to release game's on the format. Then if the game is high profile, more consoles are sold and live subscriptions & accessories

    M$ wouldn't do it for developers :whistling:

    this is soooo old, they started the band wave weeks ago..do keep up :whistling:

    600,000 used xbox 360... all modified... good price! all just appeared...

    [url]www.ebay.co.uk[/url]

    Original Poster

    souljacker;6856335

    this is soooo old, they started the band wave weeks ago..do keep up … this is soooo old, they started the band wave weeks ago..do keep up :whistling:



    I know that :? But the amount was a little staggering cos considering people say they "stealth" the games, firmware etc

    Original Poster

    addyliver;6856341

    600,000 used xbox 360... all modified... good price! all just … 600,000 used xbox 360... all modified... good price! all just appeared...[url]www.ebay.co.uk[/url]



    :w00t: You see quite a few "modified" xbox's sold on here too ...

    If any xbox comes up for sale, one of the first questions is, is it modified and is it banned from live :w00t:

    Original Poster

    But how long before M$ work it out, and ban those accounts again :whistling:

    faevilangel;6856380

    But how long before M$ work it out, and ban those accounts again … But how long before M$ work it out, and ban those accounts again :whistling:



    They wont ban your account, just ban the console :thumbsup:

    c4eva (the creator of the firmware) has always stated that "firmware is NOT detectable"

    This time round after all the bannings, he's spent more time, looking into it, running many machines under different circumstances..

    And released a new statement...

    Saying that a NEW version of the firmware will have all the extra things he put in to "supposedly help us" like 0800 (for ripping your own games), extra stealth checks so if you put in unrecognised discs they wouldnt run therefore you wouldnt get stung by an ms update or procedure on a disc, and many more.....

    This new LITE version will be more like original firmware and be "LESS DETECTABLE" as less changes have been made... HOLD ON, so HOW can you get "LESS DETECTABLE" than "NOT DETECTABLE"

    So without actually admiting to it, i'd safely say that maybe cirtain features of the firmware may have been detectable in some way, hence the high numbers of bannings this year.

    Either way, i'd just like to add, I THANK c4e for spending the time on all of this, making firmware for us all to play backups, save a little money etc (if thats your thing), and that no matter what, I wouldnt point the finger at him for anything.. BECAUSE IF YOU GET YOUR 360 FLASHED, YOU SHOULD KNOW THAT YOU "COULD" BE BANNED, it's nobodies fault but your own for choosing to use the custom firmware and playing copies..

    If you get banned, just sell your machine, buy another, jeez, you've saved thousands in playing copies! So what if your saves dont work any more etc.. just start again and ride the BAN WAVE till you get kicked off the next time...

    PEACE!

    They should ban the gamertag/account/xbox.

    DudeyGeeza;6856619

    If you get banned, just sell your machine, buy another, jeez, you've … If you get banned, just sell your machine, buy another, jeez, you've saved thousands in playing copies! So what if your saves dont work any more etc.. just start again and ride the BAN WAVE till you get kicked off the next time...PEACE!



    +1,

    btw anyone wanna buy my xbox? :whistling:

    ants97;6856623

    They should ban the gamertag/account/xbox.



    not really, if u went to ur mates house and played on his/her flashed xbox and u didnt know it was flashed, would u be happy for MS to ban ur account?

    Tanchi;6856647

    not really, if u went to ur mates house and played on his/her flashed … not really, if u went to ur mates house and played on his/her flashed xbox and u didnt know it was flashed, would u be happy for MS to ban ur account?



    i'm sure the games with the scribbled felt tip pen titles would have gave it away but that would be the chance you take.

    by just banning the xbox there is no reason to stop using pirated games as already mentioned you've already saved a small fortune so the price of a new machine will not be much of a problem. If the account and your details were banned then it would go a long long way to discouraging the pirates.

    faevilangel;6856303

    http://news.bbc.co.uk/1/hi/technology/8354166.stmbbc reported on it





    Took the BBC 2 weeks to get those "news" huh :w00t: LOL

    DudeyGeeza;6856619

    c4eva (the creator of the firmware) has always stated that "firmware is … c4eva (the creator of the firmware) has always stated that "firmware is NOT detectable"This time round after all the bannings, he's spent more time, looking into it, running many machines under different circumstances..And released a new statement...Saying that a NEW version of the firmware will have all the extra things he put in to "supposedly help us" like 0800 (for ripping your own games), extra stealth checks so if you put in unrecognised discs they wouldnt run therefore you wouldnt get stung by an ms update or procedure on a disc, and many more.....This new LITE version will be more like original firmware and be "LESS DETECTABLE" as less changes have been made... HOLD ON, so HOW can you get "LESS DETECTABLE" than "NOT DETECTABLE"So without actually admiting to it, i'd safely say that maybe cirtain features of the firmware may have been detectable in some way, hence the high numbers of bannings this year.Either way, i'd just like to add, I THANK c4e for spending the time on all of this, making firmware for us all to play backups, save a little money etc (if thats your thing), and that no matter what, I wouldnt point the finger at him for anything.. BECAUSE IF YOU GET YOUR 360 FLASHED, YOU SHOULD KNOW THAT YOU "COULD" BE BANNED, it's nobodies fault but your own for choosing to use the custom firmware and playing copies..If you get banned, just sell your machine, buy another, jeez, you've saved thousands in playing copies! So what if your saves dont work any more etc.. just start again and ride the BAN WAVE till you get kicked off the next time...PEACE!



    It looks like the firmware is the problem, he's never going to admit it is though

    where do you get his quotes from out of interest?

    ants97;6856726

    i'm sure the games with the scribbled felt tip pen titles would have gave … i'm sure the games with the scribbled felt tip pen titles would have gave it away but that would be the chance you take. by just banning the xbox there is no reason to stop using pirated games as already mentioned you've already saved a small fortune so the price of a new machine will not be much of a problem. If the account and your details were banned then it would go a long long way to discouraging the pirates.



    again, not really, i've got a flashed 360, haven't got a live account anymore so it's not been banned yet and have no intention of finding out, i can still play back ups no problem, banning my account will have no effect and i'm sure there are a lot of people in the same boat

    souljacker;6857002

    It looks like the firmware is the problem, he's never going to admit it … It looks like the firmware is the problem, he's never going to admit it is thoughwhere do you get his quotes from out of interest?



    I'm a member of the ABGX360.net team m8.. this stuff comes from the horses mouth..:thumbsup:

    IF you verify your games, you will have no doubt seen my name under the "gamertag" bit..

    It's not my actual tag btw, that would be silly, one of us even uses the name Major Nelson lol

    Im not banned yet, touch wood

    Banned

    Good news. I can't understand people who feel they can take something that someone has worked on without compensating them for it.

    I hope that in the next generation they lock the systems down completely.

    ants97;6856623

    They should ban the gamertag/account/xbox.



    Agreed

    DudeyGeeza;6857111

    I'm a member of the ABGX360.net team m8.. this stuff comes from the … I'm a member of the ABGX360.net team m8.. this stuff comes from the horses mouth..:thumbsup:IF you verify your games, you will have no doubt seen my name under the "gamertag" bit..It's not my actual tag btw, that would be silly, one of us even uses the name Major Nelson lol



    ah right, nice one :thumbsup:

    FilthAndFurry;6857137

    Good news. I can't understand people who feel they can take something … Good news. I can't understand people who feel they can take something that someone has worked on without compensating them for it.I hope that in the next generation they lock the systems down completely.



    yeah like they will get away with doing that :lol: banning the console from xbox live for violating the terms is fine, destoying someones property is another, they wouldn't have the legal power to do it

    FilthAndFurry;6857137

    Good news. I can't understand people who feel they can take something … Good news. I can't understand people who feel they can take something that someone has worked on without compensating them for it.I hope that in the next generation they lock the systems down completely.



    Well said.

    Microsoft should work out how establish what pirated games have been played and then charge the rrp to the account.

    That would stop all the pirating instantly.

    chester123;6857218

    Well said.Microsoft should work out how establish what pirated games have … Well said.Microsoft should work out how establish what pirated games have been played and then charge the rrp to the account.That would stop all the pirating instantly.



    to what account? people don't have a credit account with microsoft, what are they going to do send people round to hundreds of thousands of peoples houses to get the money:lol:

    Brilliant..keep 'em coming

    souljacker;6857261

    to what account? people don't have a credit account with microsoft, what … to what account? people don't have a credit account with microsoft, what are they going to do send people round to hundreds of thousands of peoples houses to get the money:lol:Brilliant..keep 'em coming



    Change the accounting process then so that a card must be held on file.

    chester123;6857274

    Change the accounting process then so that a card must be held on file.



    and for the people that don't use live?

    souljacker;6857292

    and for the people that don't use live?



    Well obviously those thieves cannot be caught.

    Banned

    Theories, theories and more theories.

    1. Microsoft can read the ID of disks, even IMG burn can read what make and type my disk is, it would seem simple enough for microsoft to do this ?

    2. Activation disk is getting people banned although it offers the same stealth as updated xbox's as long as games are fully stealthed

    3. Microsoft are looking at people who have most new games, something few can usually afford (My theory )

    4. One that made me laugh - microsoft are intercepting party's and listening to people talk about flashed xbox's

    5. An alleged phone call to Microsoft, seems unlikely to me - "Yes, I understand the last thing you did was update your XBOX. Our new update has new ways of detecting if a console has broken the Terms of Use, and the Support Team has found that your console has broken more than one term. I am sorry, but I cannot provide you with the exact reason your console was banned."

    6. People claiming to verify every game aren't. Maybe some unlucky people, but surely some people don't verify games, havent seen one person admitting not to.

    7. Microsoft are putting torrents out early to catch people out

    8. Microsoft know everyone who's been tampering with their xbox but decide to leave some who spend more money on things like microsoft points, arcade games and vice versa, how much money your taking by getting new releases and how many games you get. Their trying to send a message out - Do this and your getting banned.

    9. ABGX is playing up with the new wave 4 games or has gone wrong somewhere although seems unlikely as people not using wave 4 are getting banned and heard of people waiting for disks to arrive and not even playing a flashed game being banned. How true that is I dont know

    10. Microsoft can now detect firmware and find anyone the please.

    Only theories, most probably untrue. Only the one I mentioned is my theorie others have been read from other forums.

    Even if microsoft can detect firmware it doesnt make financial sense for them to ban everybody with a flashed xbox. They will lose customers to Sony as well as xbox live subscriptions, arcadea games purchased and Microsoft points. If your banned, best bet is buy a used xbox as the new Lite-ons unflashable (for now), and sell yours to someone who doesnt need live the difference shouldn't be alot considering yours is pre-flashed. If your not banned, all we can do is sit tight and hope for the best

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    Banned

    souljacker;6857261

    to what account? people don't have a credit account with microsoft, what … to what account? people don't have a credit account with microsoft, what are they going to do send people round to hundreds of thousands of peoples houses to get the money:lol:Brilliant..keep 'em coming



    What would you do to stop piracy?

    What would be most effective to change your mindset?

    FilthAndFurry;6857459

    What would you do to stop piracy?What would be most effective to change … What would you do to stop piracy?What would be most effective to change your mindset?



    Piracy helps the sale of hardware

    ryman1000;6857381

    If your banned, best bet is buy a new xbox with the new Lite-ons … If your banned, best bet is buy a new xbox with the new Lite-ons unflashable (for now)



    You sure about that? The 8-series is flashable now

    teambintip;6857493

    You sure about that? The 8-series is flashable now



    not the newest 8 seriies After July

    strike;6857502

    not the newest 8 seriies After July



    Eye sea....

    Banned

    teambintip;6857493

    You sure about that? The 8-series is flashable now



    Yeah :whistling:

    Banned

    Also I typed that up wrong, edited it now * Buy a used xbox, not a new one* was what i was supposed to say :thumbsup:

    all xbox owners i know have 2 consoles
    one for live
    one for backup games.
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