Missed NHS Hospital appointment costs

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Found 30th Nov 2017
£100 per appointment is what it costs (approximately)

There were 1397 missed last week @ the QE in Brum.

That's the best part of 10 million a year!

Is it time to fine peeps for missing appointments?
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Yes.
So long as I can fine the GP or hospital when they see me anything up to two hours late, or just cancel my appointment with little or no warning.
Needs to work both ways.
I received a reminder letter 2 weeks before my appointment. Then my phone beeped a few days even closer to the day! I went to the Hospital fully reminded of what I already knew what was happening!

Why do peeps claim to not knowing that they had an appointment? #aretheyallhighorstupid

We should 100% fine them, along with drunks and people that clog the hospital up because of a cold or things they could deal with themselves.
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Should be fining them, would also be a good idea to fine people that keep running over pushing them all behind.
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They don't even seem to be fining people for using their mobile phones while driving, so sure, fine them all!
Yes.
So long as I can fine the GP or hospital when they see me anything up to two hours late, or just cancel my appointment with little or no warning.
Needs to work both ways.
I received a reminder letter 2 weeks before my appointment. Then my phone beeped a few days even closer to the day! I went to the Hospital fully reminded of what I already knew what was happening!

Why do peeps claim to not knowing that they had an appointment? #aretheyallhighorstupid

We should 100% fine them, along with drunks and people that clog the hospital up because of a cold or things they could deal with themselves.
stgeorge4 m ago

We should 100% fine them, along with drunks and people that clog the …We should 100% fine them, along with drunks and people that clog the hospital up because of a cold or things they could deal with themselves.


How would you actually carry out the fining?
On the spot? March them to nearest cash point? Send them threatening letters? Set up a direct debit for all registered patients? Something else?

Would it be means tested? Discounts for early payments? Interest charged for installments?
I absolutely agree in principal but I was talking to a friend just last week and who had just missed an appointment. She is 37 weeks pregnant and was due to go for a scan. Thing is, her brain is mush at the moment and she forgot. anyone who has had a baby will understand that. Also as a single mother on benefits, she couldn't pay a fine. I get the thing about the nhs cancelling appointments too because I've had that happen when I've taken time off work. I'm just not sure how you would police it.
Whete do they pull the £100 figure from?
where's the reply button?

We have to Quote now? ...anyways .. lol

2 strikes and out* would work.

*fined
123batman32131 m ago

Whete do they pull the £100 figure from?



the letter they sent me!

the text they sent me (as seen below!)
Edited by: "BillySollox" 1st Dec 2017
Destard39 m ago

So long as I can fine the GP or hospital when they see me anything up to …So long as I can fine the GP or hospital when they see me anything up to two hours late, or just cancel my appointment with little or no warning.Needs to work both ways.


Just be grateful for what this country has provided for you and your family. Globally, circa 95% of people face greater hardship.
Destard50 m ago

So long as I can fine the GP or hospital when they see me anything up to …So long as I can fine the GP or hospital when they see me anything up to two hours late, or just cancel my appointment with little or no warning.Needs to work both ways.



You don't know why they have canceled and personally I rather have my appointment cancelled then be the dieing person they are busy dealing with.
Edited by: "catbeans" 1st Dec 2017
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Saturn23 m ago

Just be grateful for what this country has provided for you and your …Just be grateful for what this country has provided for you and your family. Globally, circa 95% of people face greater hardship.


I am totally greatfull for the nhs, but it is also living in this country that has caused a lot of illnesses. We live in a country that used to advertise smoking like it was the fashion. We also promote junk food and allow sugar and preservatives to be pumped into are food. If the government really wants to cut health costs then they should introduce a sugar tax for a start with all money going directly to the NHS. 5p in the pound for any foods that contain more than 5 percent sugar.



Edited by: "SOUTHWALES" 1st Dec 2017
123batman32143 m ago

Whete do they pull the £100 figure from?



scroll down


or up! lol


I was gonna say something political....but I wont. lol

It's now the first day of December and It's sttill too early to mention the C word :-P
Edited by: "BillySollox" 1st Dec 2017
SOUTHWALES1 h, 17 m ago

I am totally greatfull for the nhs, but it is also living in this country …I am totally greatfull for the nhs, but it is also living in this country that has caused a lot of illnesses. We live in a country that used to advertise smoking like it was the fashion. We also promote junk food and allow sugar and preservatives to be pumped into are food. If the government really wants to cut health costs then they should introduce a sugar tax for a start with all money going directly to the NHS. 5p in the pound for any foods that contain more than 5 percent sugar.


You do have a really good point here. There is an awful lot of terrible food on offer and a lot of people who cannot or will not cook. I will admit that I am not a good cook. My husband could look at what was in the fridge and concoct a meal. I can't but I try. I try to make sure I produce a healthy diet with lots of veg. It won't stop the problem that has been highlighted but a healthy lifestyle would stop a lot of referrals.
123batman3215 h, 0 m ago

Whete do they pull the £100 figure from?


Exactly. I have never been seen on time so I suspect the missed appointments ratio is factored into the schedules. Imagine the delays if they had a 100% turnout!
Destard6 h, 18 m ago

So long as I can fine the GP or hospital when they see me anything up to …So long as I can fine the GP or hospital when they see me anything up to two hours late, or just cancel my appointment with little or no warning.Needs to work both ways.


Perhaps, just perhaps someone was placed ahead of you who had a more urgent need delaying your appointment, surely you would expect that to be considered rather than a fine ?
Destard5 h, 56 m ago

How would you actually carry out the fining?On the spot? March them to …How would you actually carry out the fining?On the spot? March them to nearest cash point? Send them threatening letters? Set up a direct debit for all registered patients? Something else?Would it be means tested? Discounts for early payments? Interest charged for installments?


Yes
BillySollox5 h, 41 m ago

the letter they sent me!the text they sent me (as seen below!)


I guess it depends on where you live ? I have an appointment on Monday
not received any reminders.
Not that I am likely to miss it took six weeks and endless emails to make
and then another six weeks wait.
Wishing you good health Billy.
psychobitchfromhell5 h, 55 m ago

I absolutely agree in principal but I was talking to a friend just last …I absolutely agree in principal but I was talking to a friend just last week and who had just missed an appointment. She is 37 weeks pregnant and was due to go for a scan. Thing is, her brain is mush at the moment and she forgot. anyone who has had a baby will understand that. Also as a single mother on benefits, she couldn't pay a fine. I get the thing about the nhs cancelling appointments too because I've had that happen when I've taken time off work. I'm just not sure how you would police it.


Perhaps not finding everyone doesn't mean that you don't fine anyone?
SOUTHWALES5 h, 22 m ago

I am totally greatfull for the nhs, but it is also living in this country …I am totally greatfull for the nhs, but it is also living in this country that has caused a lot of illnesses. We live in a country that used to advertise smoking like it was the fashion. We also promote junk food and allow sugar and preservatives to be pumped into are food. If the government really wants to cut health costs then they should introduce a sugar tax for a start with all money going directly to the NHS. 5p in the pound for any foods that contain more than 5 percent sugar.


It is not the government's fault people have a bad diet, smoke, drink... people know about eating right and exercise.
Talking off health why can I get 4 mars bars for a pond and it’s £2 for apples this don’t encourage anyone too eat healthy !
I missed my last one, I was sick.
When it comes down to it, it just proves that a good amount of people do not want to really see a doctor/medical specialist.

When you are under psychological pressure to do something, "my leg hurts" or "I think I have XYZ" then you rush off expecting help to now. A few days later mentally the pressure to get help subsides, the pain or problem isn't so bad and you don't bother attending further appointments.
OP, have you the pricing per missed apointment to administer a penalty system? An airline runs a business that includes human natural tendence to fail, so it overbooks, it does not fine its passenger for missed flights, if it did, it would need to administer, to monitor, to collect, to hear appeals...and so on which has a service cost.
andyanddiane20 m ago

Talking off health why can I get 4 mars bars for a pond and it’s £2 for ap …Talking off health why can I get 4 mars bars for a pond and it’s £2 for apples this don’t encourage anyone too eat healthy !


Poundland has fruits which weigh more than 4 Mars bars.
Edited by: "splender" 1st Dec 2017
SOUTHWALES7 h, 9 m ago

I am totally greatfull for the nhs, but it is also living in this country …I am totally greatfull for the nhs, but it is also living in this country that has caused a lot of illnesses. We live in a country that used to advertise smoking like it was the fashion. We also promote junk food and allow sugar and preservatives to be pumped into are food. If the government really wants to cut health costs then they should introduce a sugar tax for a start with all money going directly to the NHS. 5p in the pound for any foods that contain more than 5 percent sugar.


We have to tell the government what we want them to do, this is called true and direct democracy, it might be very dangerous to have healthy eating as million of unnecessary jobs may disappear by this democratic choice, the healthy choice.
How often does one hear on a food production line, "I wouldn't be eating this after what I just put in it"?
Edited by: "splender" 1st Dec 2017
splender16 m ago

Poundland has fruits which weigh more than 4 Mars bars.


A think your missing the point !
andyanddiane6 m ago

A think your missing the point !


What is your point ?
andyanddiane48 m ago

Talking off health why can I get 4 mars bars for a pond and it’s £2 for ap …Talking off health why can I get 4 mars bars for a pond and it’s £2 for apples this don’t encourage anyone too eat healthy !



People have the choice to be healthy...

Gyms have never been cheaper!

Walking is cheaper than driving!

Youtube fitness videos are free arent they?

Eating vegetables is cheaper than eating red meat!

(ASDA Smart price) Peanut butter is cheaper Chocolate spread!
andyanddiane18 m ago

A think your missing the point !




What point? You are blatantly making things up...
Edited by: "RossD89" 1st Dec 2017
Last time I went to the docs I asked the doc to look at my willy.
after some time studying it the doc stated " I can't see anything wrong with it"
and i said " yeah I know it's a beauty innit"
plodging3 h, 47 m ago

Last time I went to the docs I asked the doc to look at my willy.after …Last time I went to the docs I asked the doc to look at my willy.after some time studying it the doc stated " I can't see anything wrong with it" and i said " yeah I know it's a beauty innit"


The time to worry is when you go in for a examination of your anal passage, you see the doctor put on a pair of gloves and he the tells you to turn and bend over slightly, the next thing you feel him start enter your back passage why at the same time putting both his hands on your shoulders.
Any fine issued should work both ways. Repeated offenders to be dropped by GP practice.

Hospitals to pay costs for cancelled operations if cancellation is made 24 hours before appointment time.

The numerous times ive heard of patients going into hospital at 7am,being prepped etc then told its been cancelled and to come back again in the future where it might get cancelled again.

Gross missmanagement of our NHS costs us ££ Billions ££ every year with thousands of unnecessary deaths to patients also
Its not Just patients missing appointments though. As hooray.henry pointed out - the NHS is just as bad at cancelling appointments and running late (frequently ive been to the hospital and its been a 2 hour delay from my appointment time from when im actually seen)
So it should work both ways - if they expect me to be on time, i expect them to be on time too.
123batman32113 h, 23 m ago

Whete do they pull the £100 figure from?


Exactly, and i had a massive argument with the GP practice manager about patient transport services.
Someone i know needed to go to several pre-assessments because they were in severe pain due to spinal and hip injuries (they were out of work due to this) yet they would not offer patient transport as she "diddnt qualify for it" against the criteria they have - because they said "she managed to get to the surgery in a car so doesn't qualify for transport" (what they diddnt realise it took her 15 mins in agony trying to get into an Astra.)

Instead they pass the buck to relatives to take time off work or to use taxi services (with what money? - she was out of work and not claiming any benefits!). they also 'claimed' it costs £350 to use patient transport services (again, something i'd like to see the cost sheet for)
Surely it doesn't "cost" the NHS anything for missed appointments as their costs and overheads remain regardless?

The REAL point is, should we fine selfish people who waste limited resources meaning that others who WOULD bother to turn up have to wait for their treatment!!
Would be nice to fine people but I think it's one of those things that would cost three times more to collect than it made.
Fining the NHS we'd just be taking money out of our own pockets? If operations get shifted it'll usually be for a good reason, there's a higher priority.
If we want better services the NHS has to be funded better, the Conservatives are running it into the ground with cuts.
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