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    moped advice information req. etc for 17yr girl?

    my 17yr old needs transport to get to anywhere, as no rural transport. can anyone tell me what kind of moped would be cheap, reliable and what license, insurance etc she would need. also what kind of price range would be reasonable, and what to look out for when buying one.
    location NI.
    thanks for any information peops.

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    direct.gov.uk/en/…547

    You can get one new for less than £1000, half that for a 50cc used. Insurance will vary however I imagine that it will be considerably less than average for a 17yo driving a 50cc who lives in a rural area.

    She needs a provisional licence with motorcycle entitlement on it and then she needs to do a CBT course before she gets on her bike, then she can only ride up to a 125cc.

    you do realise how dangerous this all is?

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    Mallinersha

    She needs a provisional licence with motorcycle entitlement on it and … She needs a provisional licence with motorcycle entitlement on it and then she needs to do a CBT course before she gets on her bike, then she can only ride up to a 125cc.



    i think 50cc would be enough of a challenge anyhow for the meantime, only needs to travel 5miles to wk a day and back anyhow. does she still need a cbt for that? and is that done by the same as reg driving test centres.

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    effing & jeffing

    you do realise how dangerous this all is?



    not as dangerous as cycling that distance in all weathers though or me having to drive her. costs more than she makes in her job and i cant afford that. the roads are quiet around her anyhow in the back of beyond.

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    whatsThePoint

    they are almost all scooters nowadays, avoid chinese and get one she … they are almost all scooters nowadays, avoid chinese and get one she likes in your price range



    whats the difference between a moped and a scooter? am a total car driver lol

    Banned

    Why would you want her out on the roads without doing the CBT, she will need all the training she can get to help her stay alive.

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    StevenA2000_uk

    http://www.direct.gov.uk/en/Motoring/DriverLicensing/WhatCanYouDriveAndYourObligations/DG_4022547You can get one new for less than £1000, half that for a 50cc used. Insurance will vary however I imagine that it will be considerably less than average for a 17yo driving a 50cc who lives in a rural area.



    thanks for the link, have to find out what the NI regs are if diff, least i got a start.

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    slamdunkin

    Why would you want her out on the roads without doing the CBT, she will … Why would you want her out on the roads without doing the CBT, she will need all the training she can get to help her stay alive.



    she has good road sense, but dont see how you can sit a test, without any practise like the provisional license and cars. of course its good. its just that if she cant practise around the roads here she is at a disadvantage. it seems she be better off getting a car driving license and heading on instead of a scooter one which doesnt make much sense.
    dont assume because of my questions i am seeking a dangerous way just want to figure it all out as so diff to cars. please dont shoot me down when have to understand it all first.

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    whatsThePoint

    Moped is 50cc max and limited to 30mph, Biggest Scooter is now around … Moped is 50cc max and limited to 30mph, Biggest Scooter is now around 700ccMopeds used to look like small motorbikes but now they almost all are Scooters



    aha, havent been on a moped in 20yrs so its a whole new world for me. are these all one person scooters i hope now?

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    whatsThePoint

    don't buy one off a spotty face youth



    cbt is normally a 1 day course that cost about £100 that tells you the very basics of theory and a few hours on the road with an instructor

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    leemole101

    cbt is normally a 1 day course that cost about £100 that tells you the … cbt is normally a 1 day course that cost about £100 that tells you the very basics of theory and a few hours on the road with an instructor



    oh thats great not as expensive as i thought.
    Edited by: "128plant" 27th Jul 2010

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    cheers people you have been very helpful.

    get her to do a cbt as it realy is helpful I would avoid anything less than 125cc as all you end up doing is holding up traffic and drivers up your backside when you can only do 30 -35mph

    really comes down to your budget as to what scooter you should buy

    one thing i will say there is no going back after you have been on a vespa fantastic reliable scooters

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    aha havent started cbt tests in NI yet so i now read. erm yes it may be safer to do a proper learning and test for a slightly bigger bike if thats what you all advise.

    If you are in the back of beyond would'nt a road legal enduro motorcross bike be a bit more sensible?






    shedboy66

    get her to do a cbt as it realy is helpful I would avoid anything less … get her to do a cbt as it realy is helpful I would avoid anything less than 125cc as all you end up doing is holding up traffic and drivers up your backside when you can only do 30 -35mphreally comes down to your budget as to what scooter you should buy one thing i will say there is no going back after you have been on a vespa fantastic reliable scooters

    shedboy66

    get her to do a cbt as it realy is helpful I would avoid anything less … get her to do a cbt as it realy is helpful I would avoid anything less than 125cc as all you end up doing is holding up traffic and drivers up your backside when you can only do 30 -35mphreally comes down to your budget as to what scooter you should buy one thing i will say there is no going back after you have been on a vespa fantastic reliable scooters



    I'll third that, driving around on a 50cc gets hugely monotonous besides anything else. The worst thing is being on a long straight and you're pootling along at 28mph with cars getting narked at you being there and the constant droning of the 'engine' in your ears. A 125cc has substantially more power and be much more fun to drive. Well, that's what I remember from ten years ago anyway. I hate being able to vividly refer to ten years ago, makes me feel olddddd.
    Edited by: "cookiemonster83" 27th Jul 2010

    Banned

    dont forget the leather mini skirt.

    shedboy66

    get her to do a cbt as it realy is helpful I would avoid anything less … get her to do a cbt as it realy is helpful I would avoid anything less than 125cc as all you end up doing is holding up traffic and drivers up your backside when you can only do 30 -35mphreally comes down to your budget as to what scooter you should buy one thing i will say there is no going back after you have been on a vespa fantastic reliable scooters



    i slightly agree, i have a 50cc and at first i thought that was too fast!

    but now it does seem to drag a bit, i can easily top 50-55 but it drags and 50's are pretty noisy..

    i do wish i had a 125 instead, but a 50 is fine for the odd 5 mile distance..50's are good enough defiantly!

    saves me from speeding more anyway.

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    Foxy102

    If you are in the back of beyond would'nt a road legal enduro motorcross … If you are in the back of beyond would'nt a road legal enduro motorcross bike be a bit more sensible?



    think it might get stolen whilst she is at college.
    mini skirt lmao more like goth leathers i think. any colour so long as its black.

    Original Poster

    wouldnt there be a big price difference between 50 and 125 anyhow. she wouldnt get enough hours at work really to afford the difference and i sure cant, what with my £4.75p in paypal lol.

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    effing & jeffing

    you do realise how dangerous this all is?



    maybe you a bit more dangerous in your sports car, lol???

    You have to take a CBT to ride a 50cc, if your daughter was wanting a 125cc then she would have to take an additional test. A 50cc moped sounds perfect for your daughters needs. They are not restricted to 30mph as others have said (unless going uphill!) they are very capable of hitting 40+ on straights which considering the speed limit is 30 in most areas is fine.
    I paid £800 for a 2nd hand peugeot speedfight 2, which is 50cc.
    They are cheap to run and mine has been reliable since ive bought it. Costs about a fiver to fill up and ive had 100+ miles out of it on 1 tank
    Edited by: "deadduck_145" 27th Jul 2010

    whatsThePoint

    while your speedo may say your doing 40+ its either incorrect (most … while your speedo may say your doing 40+ its either incorrect (most likely) or your scooter is not a moped as they are defined as being limited to 31 mph (if you want to split hairs)at 17 a cbt will cover you on any motorbike/scooter up to 125cc



    Ok but a moped has a 50cc engine, likewise with mine. Therefore id count it as a moped. I think i can distinguish between 30mph and 40mph though, and if it were de-restricted they can reach 60pmh+. I doubt youll find many these days that are restricted to 30.

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    at least as well as being better informed i am also amused by many of the points. you gotta love this site. diverse and interesting. thx.

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    whatsThePoint

    Difference could be as little as buying a 125 which is a year older than … Difference could be as little as buying a 125 which is a year older than a 50, what sort of budget are you looking at?



    i have no idea what a decent second hand price would be for one of either. think 50cc would maybe be a good start and then when she saved a bit more she could go up a bit, and then her brother would grow up into hers in a couple of years. its unlikely to be pink after all.

    Original Poster

    the other thing is what sort of budget is a decent helmet going to be, have even less of an idea about those.

    Agreed. Fitting is the most important thing about a helmet, don't buy one online unless you've tried that specific model for size.

    Is it cheap transport or style you're after? For cheap transport I'd be looking at a honda cg125, (geared bike) bulletproof and very cheap to run.

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    definately cheap transport and will be kept garaged as well. beauty not essential.
    geared bikes are probably dearer arent they
    are the brakes all about the same quality too?
    she seems quite good at driving things like powered carts etc so i guess here handling skills might be quite good which will be a help.
    ok the advice about not online helmets seems good right enough. never thought of it like that.

    Banned

    Get a 125 piaggio/gilera/aprillia. They are all good scooters and reliable. I would say a gilera runner vx125. 4 stroke, so very reliable and wont have to keep topping up oil like a 2 stroke but your daughter might not like how it looks.

    If she wants geared bike then i would say a 4 stroker again like a honda cbr 125.. very reliable bike with max speed about 75mph.

    get something like a yamaha aerox, i had one for a couple of years and i still see it going about.

    50cc sounds like a safe option but 30mph is fun for about a day until you realise traffic is constantly up your backside. imo its safer to have a bike that can go a little faster because moped drivers on restricted 50cc bikes doing around 30 often drive on the inside of the road to let traffic over take, going near the kerbs, over all the drains and shizzle that gathers at the side of the road which is more dangerous.

    that bike will do about 35 restricted, derestricted about 45/50. i found 45/50 was fine driving from belfast to lisburn every day, but a bigger engine would be better. It cost me next to nothing in petrol and insurance is a couple of hundred.

    get a second hand one theres no point paying £2000 for something you will probably only want for a year, about 700 for a decent 2nd hand one? try to buy it off an older person as kids all mess around with them to makes them faster and louder.

    Banned

    If your 17 then your much better off buying a 125.. finding a 50cc that hasnt been ragged by a teenager will be very hard but many older people have had 125s to learn on.

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    ok will look at the higher cc ones then first.

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    kcnw9

    Get a 125 piaggio/gilera/aprillia. They are all good scooters and … Get a 125 piaggio/gilera/aprillia. They are all good scooters and reliable. I would say a gilera runner vx125. 4 stroke, so very reliable and wont have to keep topping up oil like a 2 stroke but your daughter might not like how it looks.If she wants geared bike then i would say a 4 stroker again like a honda cbr 125.. very reliable bike with max speed about 75mph.



    she isnt a speed freak anyhow, she quite likes cycling only its desperate hilly here in parts so she getting cheesed off with that, not surprising. looks not really important to her and not going to be resold either, but thankfully dont see any in pink anyhow, because her brother next in the queue wouldnt be too impressed. lol.
    whats the life span of these or do they last like cars, for things like batteries and all that. the running costs are going to be her problem so better prepare her for that.

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    Where would you look locally for one?


    quote=markeh]get something like a yamaha aerox, i had one for a couple of years and i still see it going about.50cc sounds like a safe option but 30mph is fun for about a day until you realise traffic is constantly up your backside. imo its safer to have a bike that can go a little faster because moped drivers on restricted 50cc bikes doing around 30 often drive on the inside of the road to let traffic over take, going near the kerbs, over all the drains and shizzle that gathers at the side of the road which is more dangerous. that bike will do about 35 restricted, derestricted about 45/50. i found 45/50 was fine driving from belfast to lisburn every day, but a bigger engine would be better. It cost me next to nothing in petrol and insurance is a couple of hundred. get a second hand one theres no point paying £2000 for something you will probably only want for a year, about 700 for a decent 2nd hand one? try to buy it off an older person as kids all mess around with them to makes them faster and louder.[/quote]

    Banned

    Bikes can last long if well maintained. 2 stroke bikes are less likely to last as long though. Things like brake pads are dirt cheap. Easy to maintain a bike nothing is that expensive.

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    i only know one and its a mega bike place, not cheap moped land if ya get my drift.

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    whatsThePoint

    If they have a spares franchise they should be able to get the spares for … If they have a spares franchise they should be able to get the spares for all models, what shop is it?



    couldnt tell you the name of it, just know where it is. as i say am a bike newbie. have located a local bike mechanic i think a couple of miles away so am going to ask him for some local advice.

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