Moved job so I don't get maternity pay? male

Posted 7th May 2022
So employer says I don't get paid maternity pay because I am short about 3 days from being at the company for 26 Weeks to qualify from the date given of the expect birth.

I don't really understand why I am being punished by the goverment from moving jobs, my national contribution did not stop bewteen jobs so why are we punished?

am I missing something?
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    You could always look at shared parental leave gov.uk/sha…pay


    to be be honest you are better of at work, all they do is sleep, eat, cry and need cleaning..
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    It's pretty clearly stipulated on the .gov website to be fair which it is something you should have checked. BUT my personal recommendation would be to take 2 weeks annual leave instead of paternity leave as Paternity pay is only £156 per week, which is a huge cut to a normal salary.
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    Gumbon07/05/2022 22:50

    What reason is there for me not being eligible?I've paid the same national …What reason is there for me not being eligible?I've paid the same national insurance as if I didn't move job It makes no sense other the punishing tax payers moving jobs


    You're preaching to the wrong person. I think it is more to do with people not screwing over the employer and not to do with tax contributions. But like I stated earlier it is readily available information and really you should have looked it up before switching employers. Then you could have factored that into making your decision of switching jobs. You can't blame others for your mistake. (edited)
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    Gumbon07/05/2022 22:50

    What reason is there for me not being eligible?I've paid the same national …What reason is there for me not being eligible?I've paid the same national insurance as if I didn't move job It makes no sense other the punishing tax payers moving jobs


    Its about starting a new job and then leaving them with out the employee?

    I do agree, a pain that its so close to the dead line for qualification though.

    The line has to be drawn somewhere
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    Have you contacted the government and asked them why you are being punished?
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    Gumbon08/05/2022 09:16

    Issue is I've paid the same tax as someone who hasn't moved jobs so why …Issue is I've paid the same tax as someone who hasn't moved jobs so why aren't I eligible


    And the same tax as the millions of people who are not currently having children and not 'demanding' extra time off.
    No doubt you'll be claiming child benefit and using local schools etc - I don't see you getting short changed anytime soon.
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    Just think of those of us that didn't get paid maternity/paternity leave before the laws changed...
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    Gumbon08/05/2022 09:16

    Issue is I've paid the same tax as someone who hasn't moved jobs so why …Issue is I've paid the same tax as someone who hasn't moved jobs so why aren't I eligible


    I thought you'd already answered that?
    "because I am short about 3 days from being at the company for 26 Weeks to qualify from the date given of the expect birth".
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    deleted192272208/05/2022 09:46

    You never will understand as you don’t want to. Many have explained. the r …You never will understand as you don’t want to. Many have explained. the rule is there for everyone and everyone is in the same boat regarding 26 weeks. There has to be a cut off point and they just put it out for everyone regardless if you moved jobs or just starting a job.. you could of read the rules, which I’m sure an educated person would of read up on paternity rules when they found out they were going to be a parent. So will of seen that, if not people only have themselves to blame.if you new about the 26 week rule would of you stayed at your old job for the sake of £300 odd?


    Alternatively, abstain whilst changing jobs. Would never fall into the dilemma
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    deleted192272208/05/2022 06:08

    You could always look at shared parental leave …You could always look at shared parental leave https://www.gov.uk/shared-parental-leave-and-payto be be honest you are better of at work, all they do is sleep, eat, cry and need cleaning..


    They also smile after doing an explosive poop and puke combo. Makes cleaning up the fallout worth it just for that one smile.
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    What of those that were so close to receiving their pension, only to have the age limit increased?.
    There will always be a line, and people on the wrong side will get shafted / lose out.
    If you are working from home anyway then you can help her and still get full pay..
    You will expect Child Benefit, something I will never get. You will expect priority parking spots, and will bitch if someone not carrying a sprog parks there. You will get other benefits that many are not entitled to. Welcome to the real world.
    Why can you have sex at 16, but not buy media depicting it?
    Why do you have to wait until you are 21 to drive an HGV, but if you kill people for a living you can do it earlier?
    Rules & law. And you should have read them.
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    Just take leave if time off is really necessary. Others have coped without and don’t feel victimised
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    Gumbon08/05/2022 09:33

    Your not really hearing my point why am I more entitled if I didn't leave …Your not really hearing my point why am I more entitled if I didn't leave my job? What difference is it


    Gumbon08/05/2022 09:35

    Just to add to this there is an extra question that can be asked for women …Just to add to this there is an extra question that can be asked for women which means they can be entitled still Has the mother earned (or will she have earned) more than £123 per week in this job between 19 February 2022 and 16 April 2022?If women answer yes then there eligible If men answer yes we're not eligible stillSo different treatment if we're male Of course we're not the ones giving birth but it's £300 for 2 weeks so we can take it off to spend helojng the mother I just don't understand it


    You never will understand as you don’t want to. Many have explained.

    the rule is there for everyone and everyone is in the same boat regarding 26 weeks. There has to be a cut off point and they just put it out for everyone regardless if you moved jobs or just starting a job..

    you could of read the rules, which I’m sure an educated person would of read up on paternity rules when they found out they were going to be a parent. So will of seen that, if not people only have themselves to blame.

    if you new about the 26 week rule would of you stayed at your old job for the sake of £300 odd?
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    Gumbon08/05/2022 08:59

    Making no sense I'm talking about SSP of 147£ a week which is paid by the …Making no sense I'm talking about SSP of 147£ a week which is paid by the government What's that got to do with screwing over the employer


    What has ssp got to do with Paternity Pay? You need to accept you made a mistake and get over it
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    The sense of entitlement that you have regarding this is a shame.

    You've chosen to have baby, and you've chosen to change jobs. It seems that you've not made yourself ware of all of the ins and outs surrounding government requirements for receiving payments when your baby arrives.

    My partner changed jobs just before she got pregnant, and we were fully aware of the implications prior to this so saved accordingly to ensure that we could afford for her to be off work when the baby arrived. I took annual leave; I had been in my job for long enough to be eligible but 1.Statutory paternity payment is paltry, and 2.As an employee with an income who has chosen to bring a child into the world, I don't think that I should be relying on government handouts to support that.
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    From the gov website

    Paternity Leave
    You must:

    be an employee
    give the correct notice
    have been continuously employed by your employer for at least 26 weeks up to any day in the ‘qualifying week’
    The ‘qualifying week’ is the 15th week before the baby is due. This is different if you adopt.

    gov.uk/pat…ity (edited)
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    aLV42608/05/2022 01:27

    Just think of those of us that didn't get paid maternity/paternity leave …Just think of those of us that didn't get paid maternity/paternity leave before the laws changed...


    Beat me to it. OP, ask your parents how much they got paid when you were born. I think you'll find the arrangements are a lot more generous now. (edited)
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    Can you not take the paternity pay anytime within your childs first year?
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    My wife was also 3 days off from getting the NHS maternity pay deal. We fought it via the unions and had meetings. In short the line was where it was and it wasn't moving. Accept it and move on.
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    Gumbon08/05/2022 10:04

    Sorry but WHY does there have to be a cutoff point


    To stop people abusing the system, Ask the department what deal with it, why do you not get ssp for the first 3 days? Why do you not get dole if you leave your job after paying in yet others never work get everything?

    rule is there your choice not to look it up.

    I find strange you can manage on £300 for 2 weeks money, it’s getting that’s about 1 night out lately..
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    Gumbon08/05/2022 09:35

    Just to add to this there is an extra question that can be asked for women …Just to add to this there is an extra question that can be asked for women which means they can be entitled still Has the mother earned (or will she have earned) more than £123 per week in this job between 19 February 2022 and 16 April 2022?If women answer yes then there eligible If men answer yes we're not eligible stillSo different treatment if we're male Of course we're not the ones giving birth but it's £300 for 2 weeks so we can take it off to spend helojng the mother I just don't understand it


    Why are you taxed as individual but only receive benefits based on you being a couple/married?

    Why does a family of 2 people earning £30K get access to benefits and pay less tax than one with 1 worker who earns £60K?

    Its just the way the rules work.

    They cant pay out for everyone all the time.

    There are winners and losers, there has to be.
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    1988dave08/05/2022 17:25

    Any more pointers? So when me and the mrs have a kid... I can get out of …Any more pointers? So when me and the mrs have a kid... I can get out of doing everything? ... Or just stay at work?


    working late always a good one, depending what you do work might send you on a course or to another branch over the weekend always good for a lads weekend away. get rid of socilal media that way you can't be tagged and caught out.

    i was lucky i worked in a hotel when my kids were born, so had lots of early starts or late functions and had to stop over lol..
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    MonkeyMan9007/05/2022 22:37

    It's pretty clearly stipulated on the .gov website to be fair which it is …It's pretty clearly stipulated on the .gov website to be fair which it is something you should have checked. BUT my personal recommendation would be to take 2 weeks annual leave instead of paternity leave as Paternity pay is only £156 per week, which is a huge cut to a normal salary.


    What reason is there for me not being eligible?

    I've paid the same national insurance as if I didn't move job

    It makes no sense other the punishing tax payers moving jobs
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    Rather than take paternity leave I used my annual leave. your wages will take a significant dive, for the period you are off.
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    Because that's employment law. It's 26weeks for any rights to kick in for flexible work requests, paternity being such a request (edited)
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    It’s not to do with how much you have paid in, but a line be it 20 weeks or 30 someone will always lose out..You could of given due date as a week later then just said it came early..
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    Just say you’ve been for another scan and the due date has moved forward 3 days ..
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    Although is paternity leave really worth it. You will be quids down! Just take annual leave and come to an agreement with your new boss
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    MonkeyMan9007/05/2022 23:01

    You're preaching to the wrong person. I think it is more to do with people …You're preaching to the wrong person. I think it is more to do with people not screwing over the employer and not to do with tax contributions. But like I stated earlier it is readily available information and really you should have looked it up before switching employers. Then you could have factored that into making your decision of switching jobs. You can't blame others for your mistake.


    Making no sense I'm talking about SSP of 147£ a week which is paid by the government

    What's that got to do with screwing over the employer
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    You work from home most days, so not sure what the issue is?
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    Pandamansays08/05/2022 09:15

    You work from home most days, so not sure what the issue is?


    Issue is I've paid the same tax as someone who hasn't moved jobs so why aren't I eligible
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    Pandamansays08/05/2022 09:28

    And the same tax as the millions of people who are not currently having …And the same tax as the millions of people who are not currently having children and not 'demanding' extra time off.No doubt you'll be claiming child benefit and using local schools etc - I don't see you getting short changed anytime soon.


    Your not really hearing my point why am I more entitled if I didn't leave my job?

    What difference is it
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    Just to add to this there is an extra question that can be asked for women which means they can be entitled still

    Has the mother earned (or will she have earned) more than £123 per week in this job between 19 February 2022 and 16 April 2022?

    If women answer yes then there eligible

    If men answer yes we're not eligible still

    So different treatment if we're male
    Of course we're not the ones giving birth but it's £300 for 2 weeks so we can take it off to spend helojng the mother

    I just don't understand it
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    Unfortunately that's the rule and it's very bad luck it was overlooked. Unfortunately many first time parents won't realise as everything is new and a constant learning curve. As previous posters have said, you'll just have to accept and move on unfortunately.
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    deleted192272208/05/2022 09:46

    You never will understand as you don’t want to. Many have explained. the r …You never will understand as you don’t want to. Many have explained. the rule is there for everyone and everyone is in the same boat regarding 26 weeks. There has to be a cut off point and they just put it out for everyone regardless if you moved jobs or just starting a job.. you could of read the rules, which I’m sure an educated person would of read up on paternity rules when they found out they were going to be a parent. So will of seen that, if not people only have themselves to blame.if you new about the 26 week rule would of you stayed at your old job for the sake of £300 odd?


    Sorry but WHY does there have to be a cutoff point
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    samosa08/05/2022 02:56

    Rather than take paternity leave I used my annual leave. your wages will …Rather than take paternity leave I used my annual leave. your wages will take a significant dive, for the period you are off.



    ndyanem08/05/2022 08:06

    Although is paternity leave really worth it. You will be quids down! Just …Although is paternity leave really worth it. You will be quids down! Just take annual leave and come to an agreement with your new boss


    Not all paternity pay is statutory rate, it depends on how miserly/generous your employer is. I got my full salary as some top them up, just like some do sick pay. (edited)
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    I'd take annual leave, losing 700 quid hurt! I actually agreed to spend 6 weeks on half days, so using 3 weeks leave, meaning I got 2 months at home with him with a only few hours work a day.
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    deleted192272208/05/2022 06:08

    You could always look at shared parental leave …You could always look at shared parental leave https://www.gov.uk/shared-parental-leave-and-payto be be honest you are better of at work, all they do is sleep, eat, cry and need cleaning..


    Any more pointers? So when me and the mrs have a kid... I can get out of doing everything? ... Or just stay at work?
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    I agree with you in doesn’t seem fair.

    I’ve worked in payroll previously, it doesn’t cost the employer anything as it’s deduced from their national insurance contributions.

    I don’t get why you’re punished for moving jobs if you’vepaid National Insurance contributions all that time.
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    Username32117/05/2022 09:08

    I agree with you in doesn’t seem fair. I’ve worked in payroll previously, i …I agree with you in doesn’t seem fair. I’ve worked in payroll previously, it doesn’t cost the employer anything as it’s deduced from their national insurance contributions.I don’t get why you’re punished for moving jobs if you’vepaid National Insurance contributions all that time.


    It seems on here the mentality is ''tough luck'' and ''it is what is is'' which is a poor stance to take, as if I'm the bad guy trying to claim the benefits of paying my tax and national insurance.

    Same question of ''have you worked more then x in the last 12 months'' is asked to females and if they say yes then they are entitled, if your a man and say yes, then tough luck
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