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    my manager don't want to give me my holidays

    I work in KFC. I still have 12.5 days of holidays. I found new job, much better. I told him that I stay my last week as full time worker and from next week I will be part time worker. I don't want to quit from KFC. I even don't want to go for this holiday. what I want is money for this holiday. he don't want to send the form. KFC take the average from last 8 weeks to pay holiday, so I want this holiday now when my average is really good. he afraid that I quit soon after my holiday payment. when I take this holiday later, that will be like half of the money.
    what I can do in this case?

    PS. sorry for my English. this is not my first language.

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    How much annal leave are you entitled to and when is you leave calculated from. ie. 20 days to book between January to December inclusive.

    bankofmumndad;2969024

    How much annal leave.


    :?:w00t:

    what is annal leave

    Original Poster

    annual 24 days holidays
    we don't have any restriction when we can take holiday

    if your asking for money instead of taking the holiday he cant do that, comes under health and safety, you have to have the holidays

    however if you want to take the holidays after you change to part time working that depends on how many you have taken this year already, remember holidays are spread out over a 1 year period, if you dont work the full year you dont get the full years holidays, it depends on how many you have taken, and how many you have left

    fwibble;2969063

    what is annal leave



    It`s when you get your backside out of work for a while!

    Original Poster

    part time workers have 24 days too.
    at the end of year my previous manager always send holidays forms for everyone when they still had some days left. we was working as usual and on payslip came money for job and holidays. if you don't use your holiday in full they don't give you money back for that.

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    dcx_badass;2969178

    Errmm, leave KFC and go back to school, not even minor errors in your … Errmm, leave KFC and go back to school, not even minor errors in your post, it's close to incoherent.



    When I will know English as long as you, believe me, I will be much better than you :thumbsup:

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    dcx_badass;2969178

    Errmm, leave KFC and go back to school, not even minor errors in your … Errmm, leave KFC and go back to school, not even minor errors in your post, it's close to incoherent.



    wow thats helpful considering he said english isn't his first language

    dcx_badass;2969178

    Errmm, leave KFC and go back to school, not even minor errors in your … Errmm, leave KFC and go back to school, not even minor errors in your post, it's close to incoherent.



    thats very rude of you

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    korera;2969212

    When I will know English as long as you, believe me, I will be much … When I will know English as long as you, believe me, I will be much better than you :thumbsup:



    dcx_badass pwned

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    dcx_badass;2969178

    Errmm, leave KFC and go back to school, not even minor errors in your … Errmm, leave KFC and go back to school, not even minor errors in your post, it's close to incoherent.


    very harsh. perhaps the OP should ring you and get you to write something down in his language and we'll judge you Mr Perfect!

    lol, sorry about my spelling...... Annal leave, what an idiot!

    Anyway. Your leave must be bookable within a 12 month period. If you had 24 days starting from January for example you will only have earned 16 days for the months January to August inclusive. Any leave already taken is obviously deducted from this. Which is what I was getting at!

    korera;2969212

    When I will know English as long as you, believe me, I will be much … When I will know English as long as you, believe me, I will be much better than you :thumbsup:



    what a great answer. badass sucks

    dcx_badass;2969178

    Errmm, leave KFC and go back to school, not even minor errors in your … Errmm, leave KFC and go back to school, not even minor errors in your post, it's close to incoherent.



    Uncalled for, you should know better!:x

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    bankofmumndad;2969250

    lol, sorry about my spelling...... Annal leave, what an idiot!



    Yeah you need to be more careful or dcx_badspellingtroll will be on your tail!

    Lol, can you believe how rude some ppl are??

    Gives us brits a bad name!

    Original Poster

    anyway...
    the problem is not "do I go on this holiday or not"

    the problem is "when i take this holiday"

    in other way: when I take it now, they will pay me about 500 pounds
    when I take it few weeks later they will pay me about 250 pounds.

    for me is a big different

    Take it now???

    I was only illustrating you may not be entitled to the leave you thought you might be.

    Good luck though...

    if you really do start having problems, go to citizens advice.

    they may advise you to go to small claims court. in my experince, and from and listening to others who have had a genuine claim, you will win hands down.

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    fwibble;2969063

    what is annal leave



    the best kind of leave! :whistling:

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    bankofmumndad;2969276

    Lol, can you believe how rude some ppl are?? Gives us brits a bad name!



    we do not know who he is:roll:
    for me are two different kind of people: good( fair etc) and bad (unfair)

    Original Poster

    I try to speak first with my manager. I don't like to bring trouble to anyone. maybe we find some compromise...

    korera;2969291

    anyway...the problem is not "do I go on this holiday or not"the problem … anyway...the problem is not "do I go on this holiday or not"the problem is "when i take this holiday"in other way: when I take it now, they will pay me about 500 poundswhen I take it few weeks later they will pay me about 250 pounds.for me is a big different



    i know where you are coming from. Having worked for Rileys our holidays were based on my previous 8 weeks of work (irrc). Now, normally my avg week was 15hrs, but for the 8 weeks before my hols, I had worked 2x 15 + 6x 30 plus, giving me a canny avg workin week of about 26hrs per week. I took my holiday (from work), and stopped at home for a week, claiming a 26 hr working week. My hours dropped after that so i was best taking them when i did.

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    Titchimp;2969757

    I think you will find most english people who move to other countries are … I think you will find most english people who move to other countries are not fluent in either english or the language of the county they are going to live in. This guys english is pretty good compared to my french when i went over there :thumbsup:



    Agreed this person is making an effort and speaks better English than most of our home grown chavs, and they actually work. Trying to learn another language and in full time work, I'd rather have this person than the scum this country is filled with at the moment.

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    MoneySavingG;2969644

    [Sarcastic]Oh man don't get me started on these people. I was reading the … [Sarcastic]Oh man don't get me started on these people. I was reading the Daily Mail the other day and I found out that these people are taking all our JOBS, claiming billions of pounds of BENEFITS and driving big EXPENSIVE cars. Plus they are committing lots of CRIMES. And now I find out they don't even understand the English language. When will the madness stop?[/Sarcastic]



    [Sarcastic]
    never
    perhaps when "not these people" start working in ugly, dirty job for poor salary.
    so far "these people" work everywhere where "not these people" don't even think about that kind of job.
    [Sarcastic]

    this discussion is going in wrong direction....

    is completely out of subject...

    I ask for help and now we are talking about some bullcrap. it doesn't matter do I know english good or not (i 'm not stupid and i know that my english is fare from perfect), it doesn't matter do I take some benefits or not (btw I don't)

    1st I want some advise ( and I have it: citizen advise)

    2nd is already over 30 posts out of subject

    3th I am simple but ambitious guy, well educated (not in english like other people realize)

    maybe I am from "these people" for someone, but I try to improve (and believe me its challenge for someone outside UK). Finally someone appreciated that. we are on hotUKdeals (I wish to find this website much early). For me is a big deal to don't loose this money. I have to work over 50 hours to earn enough for bills etc...
    I do not fill insulted by anyone, but please if anybody want to criticise me for my english, at least try to correct me. (they call it constructive feedback:thumbsup:)

    thanks for all...

    Lets find some good deal now...

    Sounds like your finance is really tight. From what I can tell, I believe you want money instead of the holiday? Or is it paid holidays you want? (a bit like sickness pay, where you still get paid if you are sick)
    Anyhoo, my advice is to try to talk to the manager again. I don't understand the system btw, so I can't help you with law threats or stuff like that.

    Admin

    I've deleted some off topic comments from here- some of you need to refrain from starting the "immigrant debate" at every oppurtunity. It's irrelevent and uncalled for

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    korera;2970230

    [Sarcastic]maybe I am from "these people" for someone, but I try to … [Sarcastic]maybe I am from "these people" for someone, but I try to improve (and believe me its challenge for someone outside UK). Finally someone appreciated that. we are on hotUKdeals (I wish to find this website much early). For me is a big deal to don't loose this money. I have to work over 50 hours to earn enough for bills etc...I do not fill insulted by anyone, but please if anybody want to criticise me for my english, at least try to correct me. (they call it constructive feedback:thumbsup:)thanks for all...Lets find some good deal now...



    If you're struggling to pay the bills you're probably entitled to some benefits, free prescriptions etc you should go read up on it though.

    Original Poster

    lumoruk;2970488

    If you're struggling to pay the bills you're probably entitled to some … If you're struggling to pay the bills you're probably entitled to some benefits, free prescriptions etc you should go read up on it though.



    unfortunately not. we earn (me and my wife) to much.
    but even without benefits I have better life in UK than in my country
    thanks

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    dcx_badass;2970501

    PRetty sure I didn't, yet my post was deleted.



    Is posting an infraction you got, on topic in a thread about holiday entitlement?

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    korera;2970546

    unfortunately not. we earn (me and my wife) to much.but even without … unfortunately not. we earn (me and my wife) to much.but even without benefits I have better life in UK than in my countrythanks



    oh well then, as said above go talk to your nearest citizens advice they are free and really helpful. If it doesn't seem like you're going to get the money just quit and claim the £500. Plenty of fast food jobs around.

    I used to work for Tesco and they paid my holidays, but my current employer refuses to pay my holidays, I HAVE to take them or they get carried over to next year maximum 10 days.

    dcx_badass;2969178

    Errmm, leave KFC and go back to school, not even minor errors in your … Errmm, leave KFC and go back to school, not even minor errors in your post, it's close to incoherent.



    korera;2969212

    When I will know English as long as you, believe me, I will be much … When I will know English as long as you, believe me, I will be much better than you :thumbsup:



    Nice comeback, repped :-D

    I hope you manage to get something sorted. Like others have said citizens advice may be able to help you.

    how much notice did you give to your manager for you to want a holiday?

    dcx_badass;2970501

    PRetty sure I didn't, yet my post was deleted.



    no but urs was a totally racist comment about how they cant speak proper english when im sure you are just as bad grammaticaly if not worse

    lumoruk;2970488

    If you're struggling to pay the bills you're probably entitled to some … If you're struggling to pay the bills you're probably entitled to some benefits, free prescriptions etc you should go read up on it though.



    Not really since when I was working minimum wage 20 hours a week I was entitled to £4 a week housing benefit(which since wages went up im no longer entitled to) and had to pay for prescriptions and ended up being lucky to have £5 left for food and luxuries at end of week and no one cared.

    if over 25 though then you get working tax credits which means you get about an extra £50 a week if on minimum wage working like 30 hours a week

    dcx_badass;2971428

    Did you even read my post or are you just in the habit of imagining … Did you even read my post or are you just in the habit of imagining things. Dear god, you people are living a dream world, I never mentioned race anywhere. I never said they speak bad English, I said this person does, and funnily enough I don't have a map of where every single HUKD member is from, so stop making things up and get a grip.



    i DID read it and u dnt have to mention it you IMPLIED it...he even stated he appologised for his english as it wasnt his first language and you STILL had to make an un-needed comment

    How do they work out your holiday?

    It's only because every job i've done you get your holiday allowance (say 30 days per year for a full time 40 hours per week position) you get that at the beginning of April to last 1 year, you can take it when you like.

    If your only part time you get your holiday allowance on a pro rata basis so if you only work 20 hours per week you get half of that allowance so 15 days. If you work only 10 hours per week you get a quarter of the full time allowance.

    So surely if you have done about half of year on full time you will only be entitled to half the holiday allowance an then you will get a pro rata allowance for any time you do in a part time position.

    So basically I think the reason he doesn't want to pay you for it is because you want to get the money for a full time holiday allowance but wont be working the whole year full time.

    holiday entitlement on average is 24 days full time that is if say you work an average of 5 days a week (companies vary)
    basically its somethnig like a week every 3 months
    how our company works it out is the average of the last 3 months
    say for example i work 3 days a week one month 5 days a week the other and 4 the last month
    my holiday entitelment wil be 4 days (1 week)

    and of course if i wish to take a holiday it has to be approved
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