Found 12th Oct 2008
He posted a samsung Omnia on Gumtree for sale, £300, a guy called to say he's interested then said he was gonna come and collect at 12 o'clock yesterday (guess he knew banks closes @12 on saturday), but my mate was not gonna be available so he left mobile at home for wifey, guy did turn up to collect the phone at the shoppping centre next to my mates house.

he paid with new £20 notes, But alas! my mate has just discovered that the money is fake.

Whats the best way to go.

£300 whooping pounds!

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Pass the notes off to other people, it's what everyone is thinking.

abomination;3175648

Pass the notes off to other people, it's what everyone is thinking.



And if your caught you'll be up before a judge. Don't do it. Unfortunately you will have to put it down to experience. Go to the bank with the fake money.

How is trying to deposit the money into a bank better?

:lol: (you probably didn't mean it that way...)

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Predikuesi;3175660

And if your caught you'll be up before a judge. Don't do it. … And if your caught you'll be up before a judge. Don't do it. Unfortunately you will have to put it down to experience. Go to the bank with the fake money.



What will the bank do about it?

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abomination;3175668

How is trying to deposit the money into a bank better?:lol: (you probably … How is trying to deposit the money into a bank better?:lol: (you probably didn't mean it that way...)



I mean he ll get to know they are fake earlier and if reported to the police, maybe they stand a better chance of catching the guy, do the police actually try to catch the perpetrator in this kind of incident?

when i sell any of my stuff, i always ask for old notes and 10 notes. i then check using uv pen and if im not convinced i ask loca shop keeper to check it out. he should know betta

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I ve just been told the phone has the introductory 1 month insurance, cause he just took the contract on the phone just less than 3 weeks ago, so if he report the phone as stolen he shoudl get a replacement, but the phone was not stolen and was handed over wiiling, plus if he informs the police in order to get rid of the notes he ll need a police report to make a claim on insurance, what should he do?

I she 100% sure the money is fake? How did he check?

At the end of the day someone is going to be £300 worse off while the swine that cheated him will probably get away with it.

I'm not sure if I condone lying to claim insurance.

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tried to spend some of the money @ boot and they said its fake.

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My step dad decided to give me £100 for birthday a couple of years back it fake £20 notes, I had no idea and so spent them, they were spent at macdonalds and my local market...spent them all without a hitch...I was ****** when I found out later..but if you dont wanna be out of pocket then spend them, if you wanna d the right thing then phone the police

personally i would just claim the insurance, get the phone blocked so is useless to the thief who took it. paying with fake money is just theft by deception. me personally ? i would tell the police the gum tree story and then finish saying the guy just took the phone no payment. Get a ref number, and phone the insurance. Then hand the fake money into a bank at some point to be disposed of.

claim insurance, phone will be blocked,

Nah they'll just sell it abroad :?.

Seems like going to the police is inevitable.

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If i take it into a bank, wont they ask question about where i got it?

obviously pay it into those hsbc machines

I work for HSBC if u bring it to us it will get sent off to the Bank of England to be destroyed even if paid in by machine the police dont't normally get involved,only if it's a large amount.

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francescaseaman;3175926

I work for HSBC if u bring it to us it will get sent off to the Bank of … I work for HSBC if u bring it to us it will get sent off to the Bank of England to be destroyed even if paid in by machine the police dont't normally get involved,only if it's a large amount.



is this large enough to involve the police?

francescaseaman;3175926

I work for HSBC if u bring it to us it will get sent off to the Bank of … I work for HSBC if u bring it to us it will get sent off to the Bank of England to be destroyed even if paid in by machine the police dont't normally get involved,only if it's a large amount.



Yeah that's correct - take them to a bank and they should exchange them for real money. Then the bank just trade the fake ones for real ones with the Bank of England.

No,the funds would get conviscated and i'm afraid that you would not get an exchange!!!!!!! £300 is not another to get the police involved athough you details would be taken down and you could be contacted at a later date depending on what is found.

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stufai;3175953

Yeah that's correct - take them to a bank and they should exchange them … Yeah that's correct - take them to a bank and they should exchange them for real money. Then the bank just trade the fake ones for real ones with the Bank of England.



lol, that doesn't happen

stufai;3175953

Yeah that's correct - take them to a bank and they should exchange them … Yeah that's correct - take them to a bank and they should exchange them for real money. Then the bank just trade the fake ones for real ones with the Bank of England.


LOL

brb printing £1000 to take into the bank tomorrow..



JK.

I would advertise another phone but use a friends address if the same buyer comes calling kick his ******* head in when he turns up.
You might not get your phone back but it would make me feel a whole lot better knowing he is walking with a limp for a while.

LOL great idea

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cant he just ring his telephone provider and ask for the telno of the buyer? Then try to trace his address. Ring him and say you want the phone back else the police will be brought in.

claiming a replacement as original was stolen is fraud and just asking for a conviction and prison sentence.

Does seller have the IMEI (?) number for the phone as at least he can get the phone permanently blocked.

csiman;3176397

cant he just ring his telephone provider and ask for the telno of the … cant he just ring his telephone provider and ask for the telno of the buyer? Then try to trace his address. Ring him and say you want the phone back else the police will be brought in.claiming a replacement as original was stolen is fraud and just asking for a conviction and prison sentence.Does seller have the IMEI (?) number for the phone as at least he can get the phone permanently blocked.



but wasnt the phone stolen by deception anyway?? so its not fraud is it?

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tara1082;3176203

I would advertise another phone but use a friends address if the same … I would advertise another phone but use a friends address if the same buyer comes calling kick his ******* head in when he turns up. You might not get your phone back but it would make me feel a whole lot better knowing he is walking with a limp for a while.



I already advertised another phone, hopefully the guy will come callin.

csiman;3176397

cant he just ring his telephone provider and ask for the telno of the … cant he just ring his telephone provider and ask for the telno of the buyer? Then try to trace his address. Ring him and say you want the phone back else the police will be brought in.claiming a replacement as original was stolen is fraud and just asking for a conviction and prison sentence.Does seller have the IMEI (?) number for the phone as at least he can get the phone permanently blocked.



seller has contacted vodafone to block the phone already.

there are a lot of fake £20 notes floating about at the moment

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csiman;3176397

cant he just ring his telephone provider and ask for the telno of the … cant he just ring his telephone provider and ask for the telno of the buyer? Then try to trace his address. Ring him and say you want the phone back else the police will be brought in.



that would be a breach of the DPA so no

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ilovepink;3177409

there are a lot of fake £20 notes floating about at the moment



Agreed. I know there are. I bumped into someone I used to knock about with 2 weeks ago and he was boasting about the £1000 worth he had just bought (and showed them to me!)

At least the OP's mate will manage to get the phone switched off and unusable - and this "buyer" is also a loser because these notes are not cheap! (This guy said he paid £5 each for them!)

guv;3178030

Agreed. I know there are. I bumped into someone I used to knock about … Agreed. I know there are. I bumped into someone I used to knock about with 2 weeks ago and he was boasting about the £1000 worth he had just bought (and showed them to me!)At least the OP's mate will manage to get the phone switched off and unusable - and this "buyer" is also a loser because these notes are not cheap! (This guy said he paid £5 each for them!)



Just out of interest he has not just purchased a samsung Omnia from Gumtree has he?:-D

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tara1082;3178091

Just out of interest he has not just purchased a samsung Omnia from … Just out of interest he has not just purchased a samsung Omnia from Gumtree has he?:-D



Dunno. But I just tried to call him and couldn't get through!!!! :w00t:

Right, this guy has obtained property (your mates phone) by deception. This is a criminal offence under the Fraud Act (no longer under the Theft Act). Tell your mate to call his local police on the non-emergency number to get a crime reference, then explain the situation to the phone insurance and give them the crime reference number.

Now whether they'll pay out is another matter entirely!

you need to find out who this guy is and where he is, and report to the police. The bank wont do anything to you for handing them in, but they will confiscate them. They will not give you anything for them. you are better off going to the police station, advising where they came from, give a statement and away you go.
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