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    my son has lost his provisional licence

    and he has his first driving lesson tomorrow can he use the paper counterpart that came with the license?

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    youve got to show the paper part on your first lesson anyway, or i did anyway

    micoo;8132053

    youve got to show the paper part on your first lesson anyway, or i did … youve got to show the paper part on your first lesson anyway, or i did anyway



    yeah and your card though.

    dont think you can, you have to have both parts. well i did but if you explain mite be ok, and get a new one as soon as

    xxjadexx;8132088

    dont think you can, you have to have both parts. well i did



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    Original Poster

    xxjadexx;8132088

    dont think you can, you have to have both parts. well i did but if you … dont think you can, you have to have both parts. well i did but if you explain mite be ok, and get a new one as soon as



    thanks i will give it a go, cant believe he has left it till now to tell me he cant find it.

    My son did same the night before his test. Turned the house upside down but couldn't find it and too late to cancel so money lost.

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    kingy58;8132248

    My son did same the night before his test. Turned the house upside down … My son did same the night before his test. Turned the house upside down but couldn't find it and too late to cancel so money lost.



    i think i will keep hold of it if found. at least its a free lesson.

    Banned

    Muckyangel

    hope you dont get heart failure from all the stress!

    good luck!

    He needs both, its photo ID basically as its incase anyone turns up to do the test for him.

    Expensive lesson i suupose

    Son started lesson July 09,and he had to show both parts.About to book his theory and he has lost the paper part.DVLA want £20.00 to replace it.Told him he has to pay,no doubt I will end up paying.:whistling:

    Same driving instructor taugh his Dad in 1982.LOL

    It's only a lesson - some posters seem to think this is for his test.

    It will be down to the discretion of the instructor if they are willing to accept it.

    Give them a call.

    Banned

    explain the situ and get it asap........instructor wants to earn money at end of the day

    the instructor needs to write down the id number etc, cant remember if thats on the sheet aswell or not. ironically the only lesson you need it for is the first, although you need it for your tests

    from the OP's title, i thought it had been confiscated haha. it can't be LOST surely?! tell him to get his ass in gear and find it!

    Original Poster

    emhaslam;8132555

    the instructor needs to write down the id number etc, cant remember if … the instructor needs to write down the id number etc, cant remember if thats on the sheet aswell or not. ironically the only lesson you need it for is the first, although you need it for your testsfrom the OP's title, i thought it had been confiscated haha. it can't be LOST surely?! tell him to get his ass in gear and find it!



    iv kicked him of the computer and told him to look for it. only prob is he always kept it in his seat on his scooter in case he got pulled over but has not used his bike for about 4 months.

    his driver number and issue number is on the paper counterpart

    muckyangel;8132628

    iv kicked him of the computer and told him to look for it. only prob is … iv kicked him of the computer and told him to look for it. only prob is he always kept it in his seat on his scooter in case he got pulled over but has not used his bike for about 4 months.his driver number and issue number is on the paper counterpart



    in that case you may just get away with it, aslong as the instructor is 100% confident that the your son is the person on the sheet.

    not 100% sure though

    I started my lessons end of jan and you had to show both parts of your licence before you start your lessons, BUT for me he forgot cos of a phone call he got, even thou i had them both on me, and he has never asked since.

    When I lost my prov licence last year, it took 2 weeks to get it back from the DVLA and you can do it online

    Instructor will want to see both parts, in order to fully comply with the law and his insurance. If he turns a blind eye, he's likely not a very good instructor. Contact him/her asap and explain the situation, you might or might not have to pay for the lesson (most like atleast 24hours notice or will charge you).

    mehmeh;8133788

    Instructor will want to see both parts, in order to fully comply with the … Instructor will want to see both parts, in order to fully comply with the law and his insurance. If he turns a blind eye, he's likely not a very good instructor. Contact him/her asap and explain the situation, you might or might not have to pay for the lesson (most like atleast 24hours notice or will charge you).



    I dont think an instructor "turning a blind eye " to a loss of a card when the pupil still has the paper part and the instructor is confident of his ID - ie picking up from home address etc will make the instructor not very good at his/her job ! I think there's a lot more to being an instructor than that !

    Do let the instructor know beforehand though as it's only polite and it is his/her discretion whether they accept this or not. So long as he can produce the card within the next couple of weeks all decent instructors will accept him for his lesson. Hope he has a great time on his lesson :-) !

    This reminds me of the time my Missus lost her licence the morning of her driving test! Gutted, she had to cancel her test and cost £45 for nothing. She still hasn't passed her test 5 attempts later.....

    Phychlone;8134223

    This reminds me of the time my Missus lost her licence the morning of her … This reminds me of the time my Missus lost her licence the morning of her driving test! Gutted, she had to cancel her test and cost £45 for nothing. She still hasn't passed her test 5 attempts later.....



    It's amazing how many times this happens ! (the losing the licence not the failing 5 times - tho that's pretty common too unfortunately :-( )

    Tell her keep plugging away at it tho - does she have a decent instructor cos its amazing what a difference that can make :-) ?

    Why is the OP bothering, her Son is at least 17, old enough to take control of his own affairs.

    Let him sort it himself.

    my instructor only checked my actual license lol, dont even know where the paper part of my provisional would be hmmm

    He will not be able to take the lesson.

    First lesson the driving instructor needs to see BOTH parts of the licence. Otherwise they're breaking the law by letting him drive.

    Mallinersha;8135559

    He will not be able to take the lesson.First lesson the driving … He will not be able to take the lesson.First lesson the driving instructor needs to see BOTH parts of the licence. Otherwise they're breaking the law by letting him drive.



    Which " law " might that be?

    Inactive;8136453

    Which " law " might that be?



    The law which requires him to have a valid licence maybe? ;-)

    Mallinersha;8136901

    The law which requires him to have a valid licence maybe? ;-)



    He has a valid licence.:whistling:

    Banned

    take a passport to prove ID.

    Mallinersha;8135559

    He will not be able to take the lesson.First lesson the driving … He will not be able to take the lesson.First lesson the driving instructor needs to see BOTH parts of the licence. Otherwise they're breaking the law by letting him drive.



    You're talking rubbish there...

    My wife is an instructor - she's come across situations like this before, and it's for her to decide if she's willing to accept the paper copy of the licence and another form of photo id as back-up.

    It's not a matter of Law.:whistling:

    moob;8137526

    You're talking rubbish there...My wife is an instructor - she's come … You're talking rubbish there...My wife is an instructor - she's come across situations like this before, and it's for her to decide if she's willing to accept the paper copy of the licence and another form of photo id as back-up.It's not a matter of Law.:whistling:



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    Original Poster

    OK my son has had his lesson, the instructor took the drivers number from the paper part and all she needed to see was his passport as ID. He had a great lesson and drove on the bypass round a busy roundabout and along the high street on his first lesson. She said he is a natural. He is applying for his replacement licence now

    muckyangel;8138779

    OK my son has had his lesson, the instructor took the drivers number from … OK my son has had his lesson, the instructor took the drivers number from the paper part and all she needed to see was his passport as ID. He had a great lesson and drove on the bypass round a busy roundabout and along the high street on his first lesson. She said he is a natural. He is applying for his replacement licence now


    thtas good i thought that if he explained they mite be ok

    muckyangel;8138779

    OK my son has had his lesson, the instructor took the drivers number from … OK my son has had his lesson, the instructor took the drivers number from the paper part and all she needed to see was his passport as ID. He had a great lesson and drove on the bypass round a busy roundabout and along the high street on his first lesson. She said he is a natural. He is applying for his replacement licence now



    Glad it worked out for you.:thumbsup:

    vraptorchick;8133993

    I dont think an instructor "turning a blind eye " to a loss of a card … I dont think an instructor "turning a blind eye " to a loss of a card when the pupil still has the paper part and the instructor is confident of his ID - ie picking up from home address etc will make the instructor not very good at his/her job ! I think there's a lot more to being an instructor than that !



    Mallinersha;8135559

    First lesson the driving instructor needs to see BOTH parts of the … First lesson the driving instructor needs to see BOTH parts of the licence. Otherwise they're breaking the law by letting him drive.


    +1
    It will also be in the terms of his/her insurance they they MUST see a valid license before a pupil can drive the vehicle legally. Thats BOTH parts, one without the other means nothing to the DVLA, police, courts, etc. No one carrys their counterpart around, but for example, you legally should be able to produce both parts at the side of the road to the fuzz if asked. When turning up for a test, the examiner will want to see both parts.

    The reason I said it likely wouldnt make them a very good instructer, is because by accepting it, they are either ignorant of the terms of their insurance or choose to ignore them. OP got lucky anyway. Little tip, sometimes its easier to "lose" both parts of your license and order a replacement over the phone with a credit/debit card, then fill in the forms etc to have either part replaced. That is unless DVLA have changed how they do things in the past few years.
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