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    Hey guys - need some help with my PC!

    I just turned on my desktop PC (after having been switched off for about 3 months) and it booted up into Windows XP. But then it crashed. So I turned the computer on&off again, this time it wouldn't even boot up into windows.

    It got to the windows logo screen then rebooted itself. I continued turning the PC off then on again and it continued to either reboot itself at the windows logo screen or freeze at the same screen.

    Then the monitor stopped working, and I tried putting a new graphics card in the PC but the monitor still didn't work.

    On further inspection inside the PC, about 5capacitors on the motherboard near the AGP slot appear to have some kind of brown stuff coming out the top / bottom.

    Am I right in thinking that the motherboard is bust? Or does this weird capacitor phenomenon just happen with age?

    Should I replace the motherboard or buy a new mobo-cpu-ram bundle?

    Specs are as follows (I built this PC 5 yrs ago):-

    Motherboard - Jetway V266B
    CPU - Athlon XP 1600+
    RAM - 1GB PC2100 DDR
    Graphics - AGP card
    Plus 2xHDD and 2xDVD drive

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    Moderator

    markwills

    Hey guys - need some help with my PC!On further inspection inside the PC, … Hey guys - need some help with my PC!On further inspection inside the PC, about 5capacitors on the motherboard near the AGP slot appear to have some kind of brown stuff coming out the top / bottom.Am I right in thinking that the motherboard is bust? Or does this weird capacitor phenomenon just happen with age?



    That does signal the busted motherboard. Capacitors do rupture with age and the electrolite ozes out. Even Dell had a problem a couple of years ago where they had a whole batch of bad capacitors causing their pc's to fail.
    As to what to do, depends on how much you use the pc I suppose. Buy a bundle if its in need of an upgrade for your use or just replace the mobo if your happy with as is.

    Original Poster

    Do you think buying a 2nd hand MOBO off Ebay for around £15 is sensible?

    Same model as the original MOBO, so could just plug everything back in and hopefully won't need to re-install WinXP?

    Moderator

    Well thats a risk in that it may be faulty or may not last too long if its already seen a lot of use but it is only £15 of risk, yes go for it Mark.

    Moderator

    Those capacitors have ruptured? its not just the hot glue they use to keep everything in place on the mobo is it?

    Original Poster

    well the top of them are bulging compared with the other capacitors, and there's a "brown crust" on the top of them

    Moderator

    Like this psu then?

    http://dem.smugmug.com/photos/14407477-M.jpg

    Original Poster

    yes it's exactly like the capacitors in this pic, except on the motherboard rather than inside the PSU

    Moderator

    markwills

    yes it's exactly like the capacitors in this pic, except on the … yes it's exactly like the capacitors in this pic, except on the motherboard rather than inside the PSU



    OK yes of course mobo its just the only pic I had to hand in a hurry.

    Dead then...

    Original Poster

    OK cheers. So what I'm wondering is whether to buy a new desktop PC or whether the other components are likely to last a while longer with a replacement mobo.

    Moderator

    £15 is pretty low risk isnt it ;-)

    Original Poster

    Yeah - it's more like the afternoon spent setting the new mobo up that I';m concerned about LOL

    Thanks for your help, will go for the ebay option.

    Why not just change the caps?

    It'll cost a couple of quid for the correct cap...

    What are the markings? (IE - 63v 100uf)

    If you let me know, I could prob find some for you...

    Original Poster

    I think the effort and energy required (and risk, in my case as my only experience is GCSE electronics LOL) will be worth a lot more than £15.

    Thanks for the offer though.

    WOW!
    My Medion pc did the same as what yours has been and it has taken 2 engineer trips & a RTB and they still have not figured it out.And another engineer trip this week to have another look:)
    A change of mother board it seems does the trick.
    And the problem has already been solved here in a few posts:)

    markwillis...I have a boxed jetway mobo socket A in my loft which I will gladly send to you if you refund the postage cost..you can have it free of charge ...it worked fine so may be worth a try.

    PM me if you're interested.

    Original Poster

    currychops

    markwillis...I have a boxed jetway mobo socket A in my loft which I will … markwillis...I have a boxed jetway mobo socket A in my loft which I will gladly send to you if you refund the postage cost..you can have it free of charge ...it worked fine so may be worth a try.PM me if you're interested.

    Cheers, that's really kind. Does it take DDR RAM?

    markwills

    Cheers, that's really kind. Does it take DDR RAM?



    just tried to send you a PM...and now I notice.. at long last.. that you are wills not willis....so PM wouldn't send.

    I have to apologise for misleading you...I thought the Jetway was a socket A but having inspected it I can see it is far older than I thought so will not be of any use..in fact it has a 500 AMD CPU and non DDR memory so all it is fit for is recycling.

    Ever so sorry ...if you are happy with the performance of the PC...the spec seems perfectly fine for everyday tasks...then you may wish to try fleabay for a secondhand mobo rather than spend hundreds of pounds on a upgrade.

    take care.

    Original Poster

    OK Cheers for the kind offer anyway. Will go for ebay methinks.

    Original Poster

    Just found a similar mobo on ebay (auction #150087876058)

    This might actually be a blessing in disguise as the old MOBO had USB 1.1 (so I have a PCI USB 2.0 card) whereas the new one is USB 2.0.

    markwills

    Just found a similar mobo on ebay (auction #150087876058)This might … Just found a similar mobo on ebay (auction #150087876058)This might actually be a blessing in disguise as the old MOBO had USB 1.1 (so I have a PCI USB 2.0 card) whereas the new one is USB 2.0.



    yes you'll need USB 2 as 1.1 is so slow...good luck with your ebay purchase.

    Original Poster

    Yeah I have USB 2.0 on my laptop (and also on the PCI card on my desktop) and it's soooooooooooo much faster. Probably worth the ~£20 mobo upgrade just for the USB 2.0!

    Original Poster

    Went for a ~£24 2nd hand MOBO (incl p&p) which has USB2.0 and SATA (alongside IDE) so overall an upgrade. Onboard LAN as well, so frees up a PCI slot compared with me old MOBO.

    Cheers for all the help guys, rep will now be awarded

    markwills

    Went for a ~£24 2nd hand MOBO (incl p&p) which has USB2.0 and SATA … Went for a ~£24 2nd hand MOBO (incl p&p) which has USB2.0 and SATA (alongside IDE) so overall an upgrade. Onboard LAN as well, so frees up a PCI slot compared with me old MOBO.Cheers for all the help guys, rep will now be awarded



    That's great...so what next the 400GB seagate Sata drive for sixty odd quid LOL

    Original Poster

    most likely yes.

    i think this is an omen to perform some (cheap) upgrades.

    my old master HDD was 40GB and slave 250GB (stores mp3s etc)

    think ill turn the 250GB into the new master and get the SATA drive as this new MOBO supports both IDE and SATA.

    Only hope that the OEM Win XP works with the new MOBO - hopefully as the old mobo genuinely melted they'll take pity on me if I have to phone them.

    markwills

    most likely yes.i think this is an omen to perform some (cheap) … most likely yes.i think this is an omen to perform some (cheap) upgrades.my old master HDD was 40GB and slave 250GB (stores mp3s etc)think ill turn the 250GB into the new master and get the SATA drive as this new MOBO supports both IDE and SATA.Only hope that the OEM Win XP works with the new MOBO - hopefully as the old mobo genuinely melted they'll take pity on me if I have to phone them.



    shouldn't be a problem...I've changed bits on mine and reinstalled several times....the last time I think I must have reached the limit for reinstalls/changes and had to phone microsoft who quickly quoted a number over the phone that I had to input to get the new installation working.
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