New Apple iMacs Are Here...More Advice pls!!!

Ok so if you go to the Apple website you can see they have updated the iMac, Mac Mini and Mac Pro Range...

I have been waiting for this as I'm interested in getting an iMac Ideally I don't wanna spend much more than a grand but the base 24" model comes in at 1200, which is ok I guess since it comes with 4GB DD3... the only problem I have is with the graphics , I'm glad they are using Nvidia but 9400 why not 9600? I bet it's since they want to distinguish between the iMacs and MacBookPro ... and so is there only 256mb available for the graphics not 512mb and so the only way to get 512mb in an iMac is to spend 1800 on the top end iMac? Also does anyone know if they've changed the OS to the newer one (snow leopard) yet? Is it me or is this 'update' a bit unsatisfying...or should I just be quiet and get on with the purchase because Apple know what they are doing?

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I cant believe how much they sell for, how can a normal person justify that type of spending?

Original Poster

I know what you mean about the 'Apple tax' . I've been Windows user all my life... but I want to switch to MAC because having played around with their machines a bit now they are simply much much better imho... and the entire computer (and now mobile phone) industry simply tries to beat Apple by copying it...and doing a bad job at that.

I personally would avoid Apple. £1200 for that??? You could build it yourself cheaper (probably!!)

Original Poster

Wheres the poll I just added to this thread?!

dontdothatagain;4540219

I personally would avoid Apple. £1200 for that??? You could build it … I personally would avoid Apple. £1200 for that??? You could build it yourself cheaper (probably!!)



Agreed, but when your cellotape doesn't hold your motherboard to the back of your LCD monitor falls off and bursts into a ball of flames don't come crying to us :thumbsup:



Xiwt, Know any Students? Drag a student down to the apple store, you should get a bit of dollar off if they wave a student card and you say your paying on your credit card because they haven't got one for that ]CLICK HERE

I wouldn't worry about the Graphics, the fact it will take up to 8GB of RAM should see to your needs as your not using it for gaming.

Original Poster

Yes mate I'm thinking of purchasing it through the edu store if I can (but not relying on that option though) thanks for that advice

Original Poster

oh and have they changed the LCD at all resolution wise?

Original Poster

found out res its 1900x1200 on the 24" iMac

hmmm so I'm still debating (on the Apple side of things) over the 2.4 MacBookPro and the base 24" iMac... what would you guys choose?

Celticsun;4540323

I wouldn't worry about the Graphics, the fact it will take up to 8GB of … I wouldn't worry about the Graphics, the fact it will take up to 8GB of RAM should see to your needs as your not using it for gaming.



ram does not substitute for a graphics card

op i cant really help you with your decision as i have tried the mac route before and cant stand them,
i hope you find something that suits you.

apple has recently had problems with the macbook air where the hinge falls apart from normal use,Instead of repairing this under warranty they have decided that opening and closing the lid causes the damage and should be avoided,The repair only costs £450 so buy at your peril,

Original Poster

ya the air was always for people with air for brains or so much money they would never have even heard of a site like hukd.

I think Imac's are a bad buy simply because everything is integrated, I have a G5 sitting here dead because its motherboard has failed. If it had been a standard desktop and this had happened at least you'd still be able to use the monitor but not with the Imac or any other integrated designs.

John

Celticsun;4540323

Agreed, but when your cellotape doesn't hold your motherboard to the back … Agreed, but when your cellotape doesn't hold your motherboard to the back of your LCD monitor falls off and bursts into a ball of flames don't come crying to us :thumbsup:



What a fanboy :roll:

dontdothatagain;4542687

What a fanboy :roll:





Dude it was a joke, get a life and get outta mine.

phatboy123;4540672

ram does not substitute for a graphics card



Really? I didn't know that... what a revelation!

But as I pointed out for OPs needs that graphics card would suit, and the RAM would speed up his output if editing photos and video which he would be reliant on more so than the graphics card.

Original Poster

Celticsun knows a lot about Apple stuff cos he's posted in some other threads about them and given me good advice so I value the dudes advice just as much as I value everyone elses...

So what is it to be guys?... between the MBP 2.4 15.4" and the iMac 2.66 24"...

Xiwt;4547455

Celticsun knows a lot about Apple stuff cos he's posted in some other … Celticsun knows a lot about Apple stuff cos he's posted in some other threads about them and given me good advice so I value the dudes advice just as much as I value everyone elses...So what is it to be guys?... between the MBP 2.4 15.4" and the iMac 2.66 24"...



I'd go MBP for portability personally. But it ain't my money. If you don't want/need to lug it around with you then iMac all the way.

I wouldn't worry too much about what some other folks are saying, you'll get a lot more out of a Mac than a beige Dell box sporting Vista - like most things you get what you pay for. Some people just don't get Apple stuff, which is fair enough I just wish they'd leave those that do alone instead of screaming Mac tax or other such nonsense all the time.

EDIT: Oh and if you're buying from the Edu store get the extra Apple care, it's only about £40 extra for students/academics (or was) and is well worth it for the extra cover, Apple support is second to none in my experience.

Original Poster

I know but I used to scream the same stuff they do it's only now I am semi-enlightend! ... Ok so I should go with MBP and I suppose I could always up the ram to 4GB DDR3 fairly easily isn't it...so then the iMac only has slightly more processing power and better screen resolution...which I imagine I could also counter by hooking up an lcd to the MBP no? And pls correct me if I'm wrong but MBP has better graphics card no? the 9400+9600 over the iMacs 9400...I think that is a bit of greed on Apples part tbf...but hey business is business I guess.

Store's awfully slow today, I think a lot of people had the same idea as you and hung on for an update. The 24" iMac with GF GT 120 is showing up at £1,319.05 on the HE store, that's less than the RRP of the bottom spec MBP........worth thinking about......

Original Poster

Ya but I'm not too fussed about the processor speed the 120 is a 256mb card no? To get 512MB is even more money I think.

Original Poster

wait a sec how did you get 1319? I get 1408 for that spec ... store.apple.com/uk-…TY2

Xiwt;4547699

Ya but I'm not too fussed about the processor speed the 120 is a 256mb … Ya but I'm not too fussed about the processor speed the 120 is a 256mb card no? To get 512MB is even more money I think.



I wouldn't bother too much about 256 vs 512 if I were you, unless you're doing some heavy duty design work or gaming I doubt you'll max out either. It's mostly just a marketing thing used by the manufacturers, then can charge a lot more for higher memory cards without adding much to the cost of manufacture. The speed of the GPU is much more relevant to every day OSXing.

Xiwt;4547746

wait a sec how did you get 1319? I get 1408 for that spec ... … wait a sec how did you get 1319? I get 1408 for that spec ... http://store.apple.com/uk-edu/browse/home/shop_mac/family/imac?mco=MjI4OTY2



HE (Higher Education) Store, you'll need to be (or have access to) a student or academic and be sat on a university computer network. :thumbsup:

I can only Echo what Mega said :thumbsup: Good Advice.

Personally I would say its nice to be portable, and yes you can connect a external LCD to the MBP very nicely.

A friend of mine uses his MBP in 2 ways.

1) as portable machine with its own OS.

2) Has a Desktop setup, LCD external Keyboard and Mouse and simply docks the MBP when he is sat at his office desk. He even uses a completely seperate 1TB HDD Externally running through Firewire 800 with a seperate install of OSX, all he does is turn on the MBP when its all connected and holds down the ALT key when booting, this gives him the option of booting from the MBP HDD or the External HDD basically giving him 2 machines in essence.

In fact thinking about it he even goes one step further by also having windows partitions on both the MBP HDD and the External HDD giving him 4 machines in one lol.

Almost sold it to myself then, but no I must have the Mac Pro cannot be sidetracked by a sexy Laptop grrr

Celticsun;45479062

2) Has a Desktop setup, LCD external Keyboard and Mouse and simply docks … 2) Has a Desktop setup, LCD external Keyboard and Mouse and simply docks the MBP when he is sat at his office desk. He even uses a completely seperate 1TB HDD Externally running through Firewire 800 with a seperate install of OSX, all he does is turn on the MBP when its all connected and holds down the ALT key when booting, this gives him the option of booting from the MBP HDD or the External HDD basically giving him 2 machines in essence.



I do something similar to that, only with Windows through boot camp for gaming. :thumbsup:

Original Poster

Ok thanks guys you helped me out so much.. By any chance meglomaniac would you be able to tell me the HE price for the 2.4 MBP pretty please!

megalomaniac;4547940

I do something similar to that, only with Windows through boot camp for … I do something similar to that, only with Windows through boot camp for gaming. :thumbsup:



Yeah, you seem to be able to get better graphics drivers on the windows side for gaming, not to mention bigger variety of games and cheaper! :thumbsup:

Xiwt;4547992

Ok thanks guys you helped me out so much.. By any chance meglomaniac … Ok thanks guys you helped me out so much.. By any chance meglomaniac would you be able to tell me the HE price for the 2.4 MBP pretty please!



£1,163.80

Original Poster

Thanks so much, wow...quite a decent discount there. Repped.

phatboy123;4540010

I cant believe how much they sell for, how can a normal person justify … I cant believe how much they sell for, how can a normal person justify that type of spending?



Innit. £950 for a system with a 320GB harddisk. Fair play if it was an SSD, but the technology here really isn't as exciting as it should be for that sort of money. It'd be good if Apple were as innovative with their hardware choices as they were with their designs and marketing.
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