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Found 26th Oct 2014
I need a new combination boiler , what do you recommend ? Im on a tight budget . 4 bedroom house 10 radiator in total

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how tight a budget ?
and what is it replacing and why ?
(are you getting a power flush too ? no point putting a new boiler on a dirty pipework system)
who is installing it and
what type of guarantee is important ?
how many people in the house eg what is the demand for hot water ? high ?

Youll be looking for a 28-34kw Combi Boiler at a minimum really

absolute budget youre looking at a heatline capriz plus, only a 2 year warranty - would i recommend it - probably not

potterton gold may meet requirements if keeping costs low or a Baxi Duo-Tec 28he (7 year warranty) and better than a heatline






Edited by: "mrwhitelabel" 26th Oct 2014
Huge thread on MSE
Most people say Worcester is the best make for Combo Boilers.
Had a Gloworm at previous house which was.good. Avoid Baxi at all.costs.
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My mums boyfriend has his own plumbing business. If i have a word with him I'm sure he'll beat anything you have been quoted.
I have had a heatline boiler for last 10 years and in that time only changed the diverter valve and flue sensor, cost no more than 150 quid for parts. No annual servicings either, so don't believe the heatline haters. Diagnosed both faults myself and ordered parts (btw its illegal to tamper with boiler housing unless gas safe) I won't tell if you don't !
TDog123

I have had a heatline boiler for last 10 years and in that time only … I have had a heatline boiler for last 10 years and in that time only changed the diverter valve and flue sensor, cost no more than 150 quid for parts. No annual servicings either, so don't believe the heatline haters. Diagnosed both faults myself and ordered parts (btw its illegal to tamper with boiler housing unless gas safe) I won't tell if you don't !



so your not gas safe registered, do your own work, self confessingly illegally, and on a gas boiler that hasnt been serviced for 10 years....
even if thats all thats gone wrong

the above isnt exactly a signing reference for someone id want to be taking advice from, on an item that can kill you and others if things go wrong...
Edited by: "mrwhitelabel" 27th Oct 2014
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If your getting working tax you may get it free. I got baxi boiler and 5 years warranty
TDog123

I have had a heatline boiler for last 10 years and in that time only … I have had a heatline boiler for last 10 years and in that time only changed the diverter valve and flue sensor, cost no more than 150 quid for parts. No annual servicings either, so don't believe the heatline haters. Diagnosed both faults myself and ordered parts (btw its illegal to tamper with boiler housing unless gas safe) I won't tell if you don't !



Well technically its only illegal if you are doing so for personal gain.
mikeey84

Well technically its only illegal if you are doing so for personal gain.


And if you have the required competencies that gassafe asses to be minimum requirements. Which if you haVe, is fine
If you were to blow it up, and not be there, you could be prosecuted for well, various things
Edited by: "mrwhitelabel" 27th Oct 2014
mrwhitelabel

And if you have the required competencies that gassafe asses to be … And if you have the required competencies that gassafe asses to be minimum requirements. Which if you haVe, is fine If you were to blow it up, and not be there, you could be prosecuted for well, various things



Well yes, if it blows up that's a different story! However even if you leave it safe you open yourself up for prosecution if you can't prove your competency and do the work and receive payment of any kind.
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mrwhitelabel

how tight a budget ?and what is it replacing and why ?(are you getting a … how tight a budget ?and what is it replacing and why ?(are you getting a power flush too ? no point putting a new boiler on a dirty pipework system)who is installing it and what type of guarantee is important ?how many people in the house eg what is the demand for hot water ? high ?Youll be looking for a 28-34kw Combi Boiler at a minimum reallyabsolute budget youre looking at a heatline capriz plus, only a 2 year warranty - would i recommend it - probably notpotterton gold may meet requirements if keeping costs low or a Baxi Duo-Tec 28he (7 year warranty) and better than a heatline

my current boiler is a ferroli , its about 10 plus years old . heating is working but the hot water only trickles out . There's 5 of us in the house , I do have someone to install so im looking to spend about £900/£1000 on a boiler .
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sofiasar

If your getting working tax you may get it free. I got baxi boiler and 5 … If your getting working tax you may get it free. I got baxi boiler and 5 years warranty

I only get the child tax part so I wouldn't get help .
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nearly every boiler ive been looking at has some bad reviews . 1 ive been considering is a potterton titanium 33he .
It's not something you want to skimp on really - save hard and get a decent one:

discountheating.com/wal…tml

This one has good reviews and comes out top for reliability - I think Potterton is the old name - or just the same company.
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Bigfootpete

It's not something you want to skimp on really - save hard and get a … It's not something you want to skimp on really - save hard and get a decent one:http://www.discountheating.com/wallgascondensingcombi/baxiduotec28he.html This one has good reviews and comes out top for reliability - I think Potterton is the old name - or just the same company.

Bigfootpete

It's not something you want to skimp on really - save hard and get a … It's not something you want to skimp on really - save hard and get a decent one:http://www.discountheating.com/wallgascondensingcombi/baxiduotec28he.html This one has good reviews and comes out top for reliability - I think Potterton is the old name - or just the same company.

would this be ok for my size house or would I be better going for the 33
Ahh yes - the 28 may be enough, probably safer going for the 33.
For thatbudget you could get quite a lot.

Potterton Titanium 40he - 7 year waranty

Baxi duotec 40he 7 year warranty

Baxi platinum 40he 10 year warranty (£1074)

But For properties where a higher demand of hot water is needed the higher the kw of the boiler the better, however combi boilers do not cope well with 2 showers running at the same time in the same property.
Where this is a requirement a system boiler with an unvented cylinder should be considered.
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mrwhitelabel

For thatbudget you could get quite a lot.Potterton Titanium 40he - 7 year … For thatbudget you could get quite a lot.Potterton Titanium 40he - 7 year warantyBaxi duotec 40he 7 year warrantyBaxi platinum 40he 10 year warranty (£1074)But For properties where a higher demand of hot water is needed the higher the kw of the boiler the better, however combi boilers do not cope well with 2 showers running at the same time in the same property.Where this is a requirement a system boiler with an unvented cylinder should be considered.

how much would I be looking to pay installation , I have someone can do it but they haven't given me a price yet . I do no that the current pipe work is the right size 22mm .
zoeandjack15

how much would I be looking to pay installation , I have someone can do … how much would I be looking to pay installation , I have someone can do it but they haven't given me a price yet . I do no that the current pipe work is the right size 22mm .



is your current boiler a condensing boiler?

are you moving the boiler or is it a straight replacement in same location.

how long ago was your current boiler fitted?

EliTom
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elitom

is your current boiler a condensing boiler?are you moving the boiler or … is your current boiler a condensing boiler?are you moving the boiler or is it a straight replacement in same location.how long ago was your current boiler fitted?EliTom

its going on the same place as my other 10 year old boiler that isn't a condensers . I have a ferroli modena 102 . I must say I have never in the 10 years that ive had this boiler had any problems .
zoeandjack15

its going on the same place as my other 10 year old boiler that isn't a … its going on the same place as my other 10 year old boiler that isn't a condensers . I have a ferroli modena 102 . I must say I have never in the 10 years that ive had this boiler had any problems .



so there you go ....

why not look at the new range of Ferroli Modena

discountheating.com/wal…tml

just over £600 with 5 year warranty

and these boilers are of the type that only have four moving parts so much less to go wrong

if you current boiler is on an outside wall then it may be fairly easy and there fore no so expensive. The main issue will be plumbing in the condensate waste - bit like a washing machine waste.

My guess would be £400 - £600 to fit by a Gas Safe installer if its a straight swop out job

Assuming mrwhitelabel is in this business I would be interested to hear his view on this boiler !

EliTom
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just had a quote 3/400 for fitting .
zoeandjack15

just had a quote 3/400 for fitting .



sounds about right !

BUT

1. check that the installer meets the requirements of the boiler manufacturer with respect to warranty - many insisit that to get maximum warranty term the boiler must be fitted by one of the registered installers

2. check that a power flush is not required as part of the warranty (ths used to be a Worcester Bosch / British Gas requirement (con) ) .... a power flush can be expensive (£30-£50 PER RAD) and is not normally required unless your system is really very badly corroded. My boiler installer and two other boiler fitters I know recommended a good flush with sentinel X800 (put it in system a day or two before install - run the heating flat out for a few hours then dump the whole system when water is hot - refil with water an flush - repeat again and water should run clean from system - then you are ready for the install. This was certainly acceptable for my boiler manufacturer

hth

EliTom
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