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    New PC Time?

    Hmm. As I've decided to not go Reading Festival now, and am getting paid on Friday, and think I need a new PC, I need some advice from anyone with a bit better knowledge of me, and where I can look for a good deal for somebody who plays games a lot.

    Right, heres my current specs;

    2x 17" Dell TFT Monitors.
    Intel(R) Pentium(R) 4 CPU 3.20GHz Model 3, Stepping 4
    512MB DDR PC3200 (Can support up to 4gig ddr)
    Sapphire Radeon X800 GTO2 256mb
    Soundblaster Audigy ZS 2
    1xInternal 200gb SATA HDD
    1xExternal 160mb SATA HDD

    I don't know if its worth upgrading or moving onto a new pc, whether it means building my own (if theres much difference in price or buying a full unit). Though I'd probably still keep this one, sell the graphics card and use it for a storage PC. However, I do know this PC isn't the best to say I play games. It's actually terrible. But now I'm starting college, I will have a lot of spare time.

    Reeeet. If you can help, just sites which sell PC's along the lines I'm about to give, or just are fairly good and you can personally recommend, for a fairly good price. I've had a little look at Dell and Overclockers but still not sure.

    I'm after...

    Dual or Quad-core processor.
    At least 2GB of RAM.
    Single, pref Dual graphics card, depending whether a monitor is included because then I'd hook 3 up to my PC. No preference on manufacturer, as long as ATi or nVidia.
    Water Cooled (Possibly)
    200GB - 500GB HDD. (Or more)
    Non-integrated sound card.

    If you can help it'd be much appreciated because over the past few weeks I've had no time to keep up to date with the latest thing and whats currently doing well and why..

    Cheers,
    J

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    How much would you be looking to spend?

    Original Poster

    emasu

    How much would you be looking to spend?



    Knew I'd forgot to state something. Depends whether on the monitor, I currently have two but there not widescreen.

    Umm. Prepared to pay anything under £800 - £900 since this PC will last me for a good few years like the one I have now has been used solidly for over 3 and a half years.

    Original Poster

    I'm not stupid but on the Dell site, 256MB nVidia™ GeForce 8600GTS graphics card. Is that dual or single? :?

    jamesterror

    I'm not stupid but on the Dell site, 256MB nVidia™ GeForce 8600GTS g … I'm not stupid but on the Dell site, 256MB nVidia™ GeForce 8600GTS graphics card. Is that dual or single? :?



    Single

    Intel duo core 6600
    Nvidia Geforce 8800 GTS (or gtx if you got the cash)
    Evga 680i SLI motherboard (means you can run 2 gfx cards + it's DDR2 RAM)
    2x250GB Western digital Sata with 16mb cache (no need for raptors really)
    2GB DDR2 (up to you on the brand, corsair is very reliable)
    Sound card is up to you but isn't 100% needed but XFI are a good brand.

    Theres no real need in water cooling in all honesty. As long as your case is well ventillated that's all that matters. But get a good case such as the Antec 900 if you want real cooling. Lian Li pc7 is also a very good choice.

    Original Poster

    emasu

    Single



    Cheers. Its a debat whether to get the 22" monitor and sell my 2x 17" screens, or knock the monitor off and keep these two screens. Hmm! Damn decisions.

    Original Poster

    SK07

    Intel duo core 6600Nvidia Geforce 8800 GTS (or gtx if you got the … Intel duo core 6600Nvidia Geforce 8800 GTS (or gtx if you got the cash)Evga 680i SLI motherboard (means you can run 2 gfx cards + it's DDR2 RAM)2x250GB Western digital Sata with 16mb cache (no need for raptors really)2GB DDR2 (up to you on the brand, corsair is very reliable)Sound card is up to you but isn't 100% needed but XFI are a good brand.Theres no real need in water cooling in all honesty. As long as your case is well ventillated that's all that matters. But get a good case such as the Antec 900 if you want real cooling. Lian Li pc7 is also a very good choice.



    Thanks, sounds interesting. I'm prepared to build a PC myself since I have a lot of spare time, but do you think it'd work out cheaper to build myself?

    J

    jamesterror

    Cheers. Its a debat whether to get the 22" monitor and sell my 2x 17" … Cheers. Its a debat whether to get the 22" monitor and sell my 2x 17" screens, or knock the monitor off and keep these two screens. Hmm! Damn decisions.



    if you dont want the 22" buy it with the dell, you can sell it on ebay for around £190

    Original Poster

    emasu

    if you dont want the 22" buy it with the dell, you can sell it on ebay … if you dont want the 22" buy it with the dell, you can sell it on ebay for around £190



    Sounds like an investment. Its difficult to know what to buy in a PC though. Since currently I have a 21" HDTV in my room. I wanted to link that up to this PC, but never found the time. A gaming machine (espically) would be able to do that so I could stream films from PC to TV.

    Pahhh. Not too sure. Is that link you gave me the Business section on Dell?

    jamesterror

    Sounds like an investment. Its difficult to know what to buy in a PC … Sounds like an investment. Its difficult to know what to buy in a PC though. Since currently I have a 21" HDTV in my room. I wanted to link that up to this PC, but never found the time. A gaming machine (espically) would be able to do that so I could stream films from PC to TV. Pahhh. Not too sure. Is that link you gave me the Business section on Dell?



    Its from one of mikes deals thats available to order from the home site :thumbsup:

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    emasu

    Its from one of mikes deals thats available to order from the home site … Its from one of mikes deals thats available to order from the home site :thumbsup:



    Star. Repped

    I'm looking at building some pc's myself.. quite profitbale on ebay

    Original Poster

    emasu

    I'm looking at building some pc's myself.. quite profitbale on ebay



    If you have the time, and can get stuff supplied at cost. Do it. Otherwise profit margin will be a tad too small!

    jamesterror

    If you have the time, and can get stuff supplied at cost. Do it. … If you have the time, and can get stuff supplied at cost. Do it. Otherwise profit margin will be a tad too small!



    if google checkout was still on... well...

    Original Poster

    emasu

    if google checkout was still on... well...



    Its not the best of savers if your wholesale. But you have to start somewhere and Google Checkout would of been a good kick start.

    Considering thats quite an expensive PC... best ringing dell up as thers quite a large margin for discount over £500

    Original Poster

    emasu

    Considering thats quite an expensive PC... best ringing dell up as thers … Considering thats quite an expensive PC... best ringing dell up as thers quite a large margin for discount over £500



    Yeh I'll ring up Dell in the coming weeks. How much do you think I could get off, roughly?

    I was venturing for a Digital SLR Camera, but after deciding not to take photography at AS-level until my second year, I thought forget it.

    jamesterror

    Yeh I'll ring up Dell in the coming weeks. How much do you think I could … Yeh I'll ring up Dell in the coming weeks. How much do you think I could get off, roughly?I was venturing for a Digital SLR Camera, but after deciding not to take photography at AS-level until my second year, I thought forget it.



    It all depends on the sales person.. maybe £50 off or an OS upgrade or warranty thrown in

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    emasu

    It all depends on the sales person.. maybe £50 off or an OS upgrade or … It all depends on the sales person.. maybe £50 off or an OS upgrade or warranty thrown in



    Shall see. I love haggling and trying to get things cheaper. Being a very tight person when it comes to spending money, its something my friends love me for

    jamesterror

    Shall see. I love haggling and trying to get things cheaper. Being a very … Shall see. I love haggling and trying to get things cheaper. Being a very tight person when it comes to spending money, its something my friends love me for



    I try to get my parents to do it but they always refuse... i cant really buy £400 bits of kit with a credit card. So this PC I ended up building using ebuyer and google checkout :thumbsup:

    Original Poster

    emasu

    I try to get my parents to do it but they always refuse... i cant really … I try to get my parents to do it but they always refuse... i cant really buy £400 bits of kit with a credit card. So this PC I ended up building using ebuyer and google checkout :thumbsup:



    I love it, Dell are hard to haggle with I'd presume because there a well known branded company and make massive amounts, seeing as their cutting out all the middle men, and going straight from warehouse to customer. This PC I have at the minute was bought by parents, eBay job though. Was from the HP people who sell on eBay, was £1100 on the HP site but got it for £511 Wasn't too fussed. But the monitors were pricey from dell. One was £117 and other was £160. Don't know why there exactly the same! :?

    My old pc was a dell dimension 4400 - 18GB HDD, Pentium 4 1.8ghz, Inbuilt GFX, 256mb RAM... and i had that for 5 years up until this june when i switched to a core 2 duo, 500GB HDD, nvidia 7600GT, 2gb RAM.. lol

    Original Poster

    emasu

    My old pc was a dell dimension 4400 - 18GB HDD, Pentium 4 1.8ghz, Inbuilt … My old pc was a dell dimension 4400 - 18GB HDD, Pentium 4 1.8ghz, Inbuilt GFX, 256mb RAM... and i had that for 5 yars up until this june



    Old school. But if it does what you need it for, then it'll do. This PC is about 3 half years old. Although, I play a fair few games in my spare time. Was considering an Xbox 360, but the novelty will wear off and money will be wasted. Whereas a PC I use every day, and being the eco-friendly person I am, its never off.

    I played FS2004 with the settings on ful.. boy did it struggle. But it stood up to it. Now ive moved to a beast of a machine, and might be getting an E6850 C2D sooon

    Original Poster

    emasu

    I played FS2004 with the settings on ful.. boy did it struggle. But it … I played FS2004 with the settings on ful.. boy did it struggle. But it stood up to it. Now ive moved to a beast of a machine, and might be getting an E6850 C2D sooon



    Whats your current full spec if you don't mind me asking. I play CounterStrike: Source, which I play on full and get average 60 - 80FPS. Then games like Call of Duty 2 I play on Normal/High and its about 125 - 220FPS. But the lag I get back is terrible since I'm near enough playing on 256mb of RAM seeing as my graphics card takes half of it! Plus I like music in the background so the processor doesn't help! :thinking:

    This was my final spec on ebuyer:

    http://www.freewebs.com/policehelicopters/compbasket.JPG

    Original Poster

    Very nice

    I'll try something like that. Just compare the difference to Dell or whatever. The main aspect of it I worry about is heating. Since my PC is in a well enclosed space.

    Heres two pics from about 30 seconds ago. (Sorry about the sizes, I cba to shrink). You can sort of see how enclosed my PC is under my desk. My room has no heating thats how hot it can get from my PC + other electrical appliances.

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    Mines under the desk. and the fan blows out against a wall... think i need to get another fan lol

    although its hard to upgrade when youre spending 500 on a laptop

    Original Poster

    emasu

    Mines under the desk. and the fan blows out against a wall... think i … Mines under the desk. and the fan blows out against a wall... think i need to get another fan lolalthough its hard to upgrade when youre spending 500 on a laptop



    Ouch. Fans aren't really that expensive tbh. Must be an alright laptop for 500 quid, Dell I presume?

    jamesterror

    Ouch. Fans aren't really that expensive tbh. Must be an alright laptop … Ouch. Fans aren't really that expensive tbh. Must be an alright laptop for 500 quid, Dell I presume?



    well the dell i wanted has gone OOS... so its a sony now :-D

    Original Poster

    Sony are quality. If I had the extra £200 I'd buy Sony. There expensive but they can be because of their brand loyalty grr. Most things I have minus PC are Sony.

    Ive got a 40" 1080p sony downstairs lol

    Original Poster

    emasu

    Ive got a 40" 1080p sony downstairs lol



    Don't rub it in! I only earn £260 a month, part-time work and a student. Great life.

    jamesterror

    Don't rub it in! I only earn £260 a month, part-time work and a student. … Don't rub it in! I only earn £260 a month, part-time work and a student. Great life.



    I dont have a job.. thats £260 more than me

    Original Poster

    cells

    your probably going to have to go lower than … your probably going to have to go lower than thathttp://www.hotukdeals.com/forums/showthread.php?t=86590£351 before quidco, and it is less than £340 delivered with quidcoAMD® Athlon 64 X2 Mobile Technology TK53 * 15.4" Wide Screen WXGA (1280 x 800) DisplayGenuine Windows Vista Business - English (Or XP Professional)Base Warranty - 1 Year Business Hardware Support * 2048MB 533MHz Dual Channel DDR2 SDRAM [2x1024]120GB (5400rpm) SATA Hard Drive * ATI Radeon® Xpress 1150 HyperMemory (integrated)Fixed Internal 8X DVD+/-RW Drive including Software * 4 cell Lithium-Ion Battery (29 Whr)Dell Wireless 1390 802.11b/g Mini-Card - Europe * Dell v92 Data/Fax Modem

    jamesterror



    I posted that I'd normally buy it but the sony looks better and has a better spec and i trust sony over dell
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