Oh Noes............. Rabies!!!!!!!!!!!

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Found 12th Jan 2010
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We all went to the doctors last week for info on inoculations for our 3 week holiday to Bali at Easter. Surprisingly, we got given Typhoid, Diptheria, Polio, Tetenus, Hep A&B free of charge and on the spot, I was also expecting to be told we'd need Malaria Tablets (but we don't)

But I didnt expect to be told we'd need a Rabies shot!

My initial thoughts were yeh righto, I'll cross the road if I see a dog foaming at the mouth especially after being told the jabs were £120 a pop - so £480! Ouch in more ways than one!

I just had a call from the nurse asking if we'd made up our minds (as it has to be specially ordered.)...... and just googling, it seems its true, there is a serious outbreak and it is affecting the main tourist area's!

Oh noes.........

What would you do in this situation?


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Googling now, but my first thought is that, if there is rabies around, I'd spend the money for the protection. Is it bats?

I would most definitely get the jabs

why are the shots soooo expensive?!?!?!

......if it were me i'd be more worried about getting blown up on the plane .....:-D

Seriously though ...read this ....as there is NO innoculation drugs in Bali ..........IF you are bitten :

hpa.org.uk/hpr…htm

I'd get them Why have a lovely holiday to come back and die.....?

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chesso;7520049

Googling now, but my first thought is that, if there is rabies around, … Googling now, but my first thought is that, if there is rabies around, I'd spend the money for the protection. Is it bats?



Scabie dogs from what Id just read. When the nurse said it last week, I just figured it would be off the beaten track, but the reports even mention Kuta and Denpasar.

Silentgirl!;7520064

I would most definitely get the jabs



My first thought was..... there wont be any pooches in our luxury and security protected accomodation. (Look up Sanur Paradise Plaza Suites)

ilovepink;7520075

why are the shots soooo expensive?!?!?!



'Cos they can I guess. But £480 is taking the pee.

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Mecoconuts;7520103

......if it were me i'd be more worried about getting blown up on the … ......if it were me i'd be more worried about getting blown up on the plane .....:-DSeriously though ...



telegraph.co.uk/tra…tml Is todays paper!!!


Lulu'sMammy;7520128

I'd get them Why have a lovely holiday to come back and die.....?



Thats unlikely!

If it were me, if money wasn't the issue then I'd get the jabs, just incase. If money is a little tight after paying for everything already, then I'd probably just get the kids done.

If you decide to get it done though, make sure you get value for money by chasing after any stray animal you see that's foaming at the mouth.....:-D

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Take the shots!!

guv;7520130

Scabie dogs from what Id just read. When the nurse said it last week, I … Scabie dogs from what Id just read. When the nurse said it last week, I just figured it would be off the beaten track, but the reports even mention Kuta and Denpasar.My first thought was..... there wont be any pooches in our luxury and security protected accomodation. (Look up Sanur Paradise Plaza Suites)'Cos they can I guess. But £480 is taking the pee.



Are you taking a big suitcase with plenty of room for a person inside?! :-D

I don't want to die of rabies in Bali, Daddy. Please let's have the jabs!

guv;7520155

http://www.telegraph.co.uk/travel/travelnews/4396609/Bali-tourists-warned-over-rabies.html Is todays paper!!!



Sorry but it's actually a YEAR AGO ....

Published: 10:17AM GMT 30 Jan 2009

telegraph.co.uk/tra…tml

I'd take the jabs, otherwise you'll be worrying about it all the time.

just had a look, cracking looking place :thumbsup:

guv;7520155

http://www.telegraph.co.uk/travel/travelnews/4396609/Bali-tourists-warned-over-rabies.html Is todays paper!!!Thats unlikely!


Yes but not impossible!

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Charlie&Lola;7520158

If it were me, if money wasn't the issue then I'd get the jabs, just … If it were me, if money wasn't the issue then I'd get the jabs, just incase. If money is a little tight after paying for everything already, then I'd probably just get the kids done.If you decide to get it done though, make sure you get value for money by chasing after any stray animal you see that's foaming at the mouth.....:-D



LOL.... I can remember seeing these really scabby dogs in Thailand and not thinking anything of it! I even fed them I think!

juliet_bravo;7520160

Take the shots!!



I'm swaying that way!

Silentgirl!;7520163

Are you taking a big suitcase with plenty of room for a person inside?! … Are you taking a big suitcase with plenty of room for a person inside?! :-D



Looks nice huh! :-D

angelfairee;7520191

I don't want to die of rabies in Bali, Daddy. Please let's have the jabs!



You're not going!

guv;7520239

What would you do in this situation?



Get the wife to pay for it. :thumbsup:

guv;7520239

You're not going!



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Who wants to come to my houseparty when my parents go away without me? I'm thinking it's okay to break everything whilst they're gone.

It's only killed 18 people in a year ...which is when the outbreak started ....

radioaustralia.net.au/con…htm

So you've probably more chance of dying from Swine Flu ! :-D

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Mecoconuts;7520212

Sorry but it's actually a YEAR AGO ....Published: 10:17AM GMT 30 Jan … Sorry but it's actually a YEAR AGO ....Published: 10:17AM GMT 30 Jan 2009http://www.telegraph.co.uk/travel/travelnews/4396609/Bali-tourists-warned-over-rabies.html



LOL.... what a plonker!!!! Its got todays date in the top left corner!!!

Hmmm need to look further!!!!

richp;7520221

I'd take the jabs, otherwise you'll be worrying about it all the … I'd take the jabs, otherwise you'll be worrying about it all the time.just had a look, cracking looking place :thumbsup:



To be honest, I wouldn't worry, but I know the missus would. Maybe I'll just get her immunised and she can stand between us and any scabby dog we see!:-D

The kids are looking forward to that slide I can tell ya!

It may be a good plan, I went to Bolivia in 2006 we were told it was optional, personally I didnt have it because u can have side effects and I had side effects when I had my Yellow Fever vaccine, so i wasnt particularly up for it :p. However it gives you 5days more to get the 'antidote' which is preferable to 24hrs. In my opinion if you havent reacted to any previous vaccines its prob a good plan.

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StevenA2000_uk;7520266

Get the wife to pay for it. :thumbsup:



LOOOOOOOL... You maaaaad? She's a tight ass!:w00t:

Mecoconuts;7520290

It's only killed 18 people in a year ...which is when the outbreak … It's only killed 18 people in a year ...which is when the outbreak started ....http://www.radioaustralia.net.au/connectasia/stories/200912/s2770784.htmSo you've probably more chance of dying from Swine Flu ! :-D



I'm not a panicker to be fair, but the missus is. I'm glad you spotted that! How did you know anyway? Been yourself recently or someone you know? (No reason to have known otherwise!)

nhs.uk/con…spx
Same advice here as other links mentioned:
Rabies vaccine is recommended for:
•Anyone travelling for more than one month to an area where rabies is common in animals (such as jungle habitats), and where there is no access to prompt, reliable and safe medical care.
•Anyone travelling for less than one month to an area where rabies is common in animals, but who may be exposed to rabies because of their travel activities. For example, those working with animals.
•Rabies vaccine cannot be given to children under 2 months old.


I haven't found any advice that tourists are particularly at risk. As you say gov, you've been to these places before with their manky dogs. The odds of being bitten by a rabid dog in a tourist resort have to be low.
Looks like you would have only partial protection if this is accurate:

Vaccination normally requires a course of three doses for protection. The … Vaccination normally requires a course of three doses for protection. The second dose is normally given seven days after the first, with the third dose given 21 or 28 days after the first, depending on the vaccine used.


Mind you, you've got loads of money so you might as well get the jabs.

edit - oh I see the holiday is for 3 weeks, not that you are going in 3 week's time - ignore that bit!

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bigfoot100;7520330

It may be a good plan, I went to Bolivia in 2006 we were told it was … It may be a good plan, I went to Bolivia in 2006 we were told it was optional, personally I didnt have it because u can have side effects and I had side effects when I had my Yellow Fever vaccine, so i wasnt particularly up for it :p. However it gives you 5days more to get the 'antidote' which is preferable to 24hrs. In my opinion if you havent reacted to any previous vaccines its prob a good plan.



Antidote? Are you talking about Yellow Fever here?

Actually, thinking about it, the nurse said it wasnt an immunisation, but should lessen the affects of the scabby dog bit.

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£120 for a shot? Ouch!

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chesso;7520397

http://www.nhs.uk/conditions/travel-immunisation/pages/immunisations.aspxSame advice here as other links mentioned:Rabies vaccine is recommended for:•Anyone travelling for more than one month to an area where rabies is common in animals (such as jungle habitats), and where there is no access to prompt, reliable and safe medical care.•Anyone travelling for less than one month to an area where rabies is common in animals, but who may be exposed to rabies because of their travel activities. For example, those working with animals.•Rabies vaccine cannot be given to children under 2 months old.I haven't found any advice that tourists are particularly at risk. As you say gov, you've been to these places before with their manky dogs. The odds of being bitten by a rabid dog in a tourist resort have to be low.Looks like you would have only partial protection if this is accurate:



Partial protection
Tourist resort
Outbreak a year old

It's swung the other way!

Mind you, I did want to go and see the nutty monkeys again in Ubud...... Maybe not!

Mind you, you've got loads of money so you might as well get the jabs.



You don't get loads of money by wasting it!

edit - oh I see the holiday is for 3 weeks, not that you are going in 3 … edit - oh I see the holiday is for 3 weeks, not that you are going in 3 week's time - ignore that bit!



Well its 19 days.... 30 March.

As I understand the rabies vaccine does not wholly protect you from the virus,it does however,buy you a bit more time should you be exposed to it.

Myself.......I probably wouldn't bother.I think the chances of being exposed,especially in a posh tourist complex,would be remote.Bali relies on the tourist trade fro much of it's income so I would imagine that they will be doing their utmost,especially in the tourist areas,to protect the people who visit.

If you are looking to go off the beaten track then it would probably be more prudent to protect yourself as access to mediacl facilities will be harder to come by.

It's third world mate - wait until you see the state of the place outside the resort hotel. :lol:

Bet you wish the nurse hadn't said anything now. I don't know what I'd do. People are always going to Bali from around here - surfers etc - I've never heard them mention getting rabies jabs and I'm sure they would say something at £120 a go. France is full of rabid things and there's no suggestion for people to get vaccinations, although you have to have pets protected.

guv;7520437

Antidote? Are you talking about Yellow Fever here?Actually, thinking … Antidote? Are you talking about Yellow Fever here?Actually, thinking about it, the nurse said it wasnt an immunisation, but should lessen the affects of the scabby dog bit.



Nope I am pretty sure that if you get bitten you still have to have an injection to save your life vaccine or not. If you don't have the vaccine I think you start showing symptoms after 24hrs if you do have the vaccine you start showing them within 5days. When you start showing symptoms its bascially 100% mortality rate. So having the extra time to get the cure is good. Don't quote me on t time scales but i'm pretty sure thats what happens.

Tbh if you stay away from wild animals and are careful you shouldn't have a prob.

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DanJackson;7520469

£120 for a shot? Ouch!



To be fair, that was the price the nurse quoted. She wasn't 100%, though she did think that was how much the last time she did it was.

muckypup;7520501

As I understand the rabies vaccine does not wholly protect you from the … As I understand the rabies vaccine does not wholly protect you from the virus,it does however,buy you a bit more time should you be exposed to it.Myself.......I probably wouldn't bother.I think the chances of being exposed,especially in a posh tourist complex,would be remote.Bali relies on the tourist trade fro much of it's income so I would imagine that they will be doing their utmost,especially in the tourist areas,to protect the people who visit.If you are looking to go off the beaten track then it would probably be more prudent to protect yourself as access to mediacl facilities will be harder to come by.



We will be moving about, The first 3 days we are in the Jayarkarta resort in Legian with our friends from Melbourne. It all depends on my timeshare, but we either have the next week in CandiDasa (which is less touristy and an hour from a hospital!) or the place we have the final week in Sanur.

But I couldnt travel to a place as nice as bali and not go wandering. I want to meet up with the booger that ripped me off with a dodgy chess set up the volcano. (I kid you not - it was sooo funny!!) And you gotta go to Ubud and stroll around Kuta etc.... Its a must!

bigfoot100;7520620

Tbh if you stay away from wild animals and are careful you shouldn't have … Tbh if you stay away from wild animals and are careful you shouldn't have a prob.



This ^

And then you can spend the £480 on taxi's to avoid walking where rabid animals may lurk.

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moob;7520569

It's third world mate - wait until you see the state of the place outside … It's third world mate - wait until you see the state of the place outside the resort hotel. :lol:



LOL...... I've stayed in a right dodgy Losman in Legian I can tell ya!

chesso;7520600

Bet you wish the nurse hadn't said anything now. I don't know what I'd … Bet you wish the nurse hadn't said anything now. I don't know what I'd do. People are always going to Bali from around here - surfers etc - I've never heard them mention getting rabies jabs and I'm sure they would say something at £120 a go. France is full of rabid things and there's no suggestion for people to get vaccinations, although you have to have pets protected.



Funnily, I pretty much said that to the nurse. (ie - there is rabies in France - but that doesn't mean you need a jab!) I hadn't even given it another thought to be honest until she called a couple of hours ago and I found that out of date link!

bigfoot100;7520603

Nope I am pretty sure that if you get bitten you still have to have an … Nope I am pretty sure that if you get bitten you still have to have an injection to save your life vaccine or not. If you don't have the vaccine I think you start showing symptoms after 24hrs if you do have the vaccine you start showing them within 5days. When you start showing symptoms its bascially 100% mortality rate. So having the extra time to get the cure is good. Don't quote me on t time scales but i'm pretty sure thats what happens.



So If any of us get bitten, we just get to the damned hospital PDQ.

South America is similar for rabies jab requirements. I worked at a wildlife animal sanctuary with monkeys, so definitely needed the jab. It cost me 80 pounds a while back. They have to order the vaccine in especially and it apparently goes off if not used within a few days so sometimes better to go to a travel clinic where they already have it available there and then. I was told that if I was bitten and I had had the vaccine, I would need to have another jab in a hospital within 24hrs. If you don't have the jab in the first place you don't get this extra time!

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DarkKnight;7520751

This ^And then you can spend the £480 on taxi's to avoid walking where … This ^And then you can spend the £480 on taxi's to avoid walking where rabid animals may lurk.



LOL...... from what our friends said, you can hire a taxi for the day for $25!! Doesnt seen feasible to be honest.

Enjoy yourself regardless!

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malouco78;7520767

South America is similar for rabies jab requirements. I worked at a … South America is similar for rabies jab requirements. I worked at a wildlife animal sanctuary with monkeys, so definitely needed the jab. It cost me 80 pounds a while back. They have to order the vaccine in especially and it apparently goes off if not used within a few days so sometimes better to go to a travel clinic where they already have it available there and then. I was told that if I was bitten and I had had the vaccine, I would need to have another jab in a hospital within 24hrs. If you don't have the jab in the first place you don't get this extra time!



Ah ok....So its not 5 days with the vaccine!

Sloth/Mod

Have the kids done at least and you and your wife can decide whether to risk yourselves

You could just get one of you done just so the kids don't end up orphans. ;-)

guv;7520786

LOL...... from what our friends said, you can hire a taxi for the day for … LOL...... from what our friends said, you can hire a taxi for the day for $25!! Doesnt seen feasible to be honest.



It could be a good idea to hire a car yourself if the price of an all day taxi is that price. I've done that many times while travelling abroad and it makes so much difference to the holiday.
A hire car per day would be about the same price as you just quoted, possibly less depending on the car.

This should tell you all you need to know ]http//ww…htm seems I was a bit out on my timings lol sorry bout that.
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