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    Ok, it's a HUGE question.... but, How do you help an alchoholic stop?????????????

    Erm... as above really..............

    Please help! XXX

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    make sure they're really broke every time and cant afford to buy excessive alcohol same goes for smokers


    option 2: AA

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    ilovelilac;5244317

    make sure they're really broke every time and cant afford to buy … make sure they're really broke every time and cant afford to buy excessive alcohol same goes for smokers :)option 2: AA



    Lol... thanks... ish!! :whistling::whistling:

    Its all good in words... but how do you help somebody that doesnt want to be helped? :?

    You can't help anyone who doesn't want to be helped. Don't give up on them though.

    Try to get them to go to a GP's appointment with you. They can give help and arrange counselling and treatment.

    Banned

    pass the bottle to me

    I know it's hard but I guess the only way to do it is make them realise that they have a problem, and that they need professional help? I think thats the only way, and just find other things to do with them apart from stuff involving alcohol, maybe by doing something different it would help them think of something else. But I think professional help is surely the best option.

    dmh77;5244332

    Lol... thanks... ish!! :whistling::whistling:Its all good in words... but … Lol... thanks... ish!! :whistling::whistling:Its all good in words... but how do you help somebody that doesnt want to be helped? :?



    errrrm i dunno lol

    Just explain to them the dangers of excessive drinking and stuff, if they dont listen pray for them :-D

    angelfairee;5244336

    You can't help anyone who doesn't want to be helped. Don't give up on … You can't help anyone who doesn't want to be helped. Don't give up on them though.Try to get them to go to a GP's appointment with you. They can give help and arrange counselling and treatment.



    hia AF :-D:-D

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    The problem is , the NHS really doesn't handle this particular problem well..... at all! :-(

    I have been really shocked by the things I am hearing from these services........ :?

    I was just wondering if there was any 1st hand advice?

    same alcoholic friend you were trying to help a few weeks ago?

    ilovelilac;5244348

    hia AF :-D:-D



    Hey lovely! You ok?

    angelfairee;5244355

    Hey lovely! You ok?



    yea im good ta im off the sleep now, im wanted :whistling:
    i'll catch up with you soon xxx

    Banned

    dont know but im in shock.......


    70,000 tons of drugs just gone up in smoke on the news:o

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    JasonMason;5244351

    same alcoholic friend you were trying to help a few weeks ago?



    :oops:

    Fraid so... she jumped off the wagon again today... in a big way...... :oops:

    sew their lips together

    aww hun im sorry but unless they want to do it its going to be really hard to help them.

    i no this sound stupid but there is a book called a million little pieces by james frey it might help you understand abit more.

    On a serious note, on here a few weeks ago there was some sweets that make one thing taste of another. It's a shame they can't make one that makes alcohol taste of poo. I can't see them sitting there drinking liquid poo, can you?

    the person needs to want to be helped, pointless you putting all the effort in if they dont want to get better themselves.

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    JasonMason;5244390

    the person needs to want to be helped, pointless you putting all the … the person needs to want to be helped, pointless you putting all the effort in if they dont want to get better themselves.



    I am learning that... but there are (little) kids involved..... :thinking:

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    BlondeBella;5244383

    aww hun im sorry but unless they want to do it its going to be really … aww hun im sorry but unless they want to do it its going to be really hard to help them.i no this sound stupid but there is a book called a million little pieces by james frey it might help you understand abit more.



    Might just have a look at that... thanks hun! :thumbsup:

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    stefor;5244388

    On a serious note, on here a few weeks ago there was some sweets that … On a serious note, on here a few weeks ago there was some sweets that make one thing taste of another. It's a shame they can't make one that makes alcohol taste of poo. I can't see them sitting there drinking liquid poo, can you?



    Agreed!!! :thumbsup:

    dmh77;5244400

    I am learning that... but there are (little) kids involved..... :thinking:



    all i can suggest is that you look out for the kids and not the parent then as they can only help themslef.

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    BlondeBella;5244409

    all i can suggest is that you look out for the kids and not the parent … all i can suggest is that you look out for the kids and not the parent then as they can only help themslef.



    It is so sad... but, yes, I probably agree.........

    It aint gonna be nice............

    dmh77;5244416

    It is so sad... but, yes, I probably agree.........It aint gonna be … It is so sad... but, yes, I probably agree.........It aint gonna be nice............



    it never is when an addiction is involved, when i read the bok i suggested to you i used to hate addicted but he made me sse it from a different view.

    I am going through this with my partner at the minute I dont understand sometimes what this iching is cause I dont have a problem but truth he would be still doing this if i would keep putting up with anti social behaviour as for children being involved they get hurt big time and think that drink is normal in their lives and that every family must do this your friend needs a shock to make her stop I have put up with it for 10 years and said no more that I was leaving biggest wake up call ever got the nicest person in the world now but all anyone can do is one day at a time and try and keep them occupied hope everything works out god bless x

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    BlondeBella;5244421

    it never is when an addiction is involved, when i read the bok i … it never is when an addiction is involved, when i read the bok i suggested to you i used to hate addicted but he made me sse it from a different view.



    I know what you mean, I don't really have an opinion on addiction, but what I have been seeing recently beggars belief.... :?

    She is a completely different person when she is drinking....

    dmh77;5244426

    I know what you mean, I don't really have an opinion on addiction, but … I know what you mean, I don't really have an opinion on addiction, but what I have been seeing recently beggars belief.... :?She is a completely different person when she is drinking....



    yeah its no longer them anymore it the addiction speaking.

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    love my boots;5244424

    I am going through this with my partner at the minute I dont understand … I am going through this with my partner at the minute I dont understand sometimes what this iching is cause I dont have a problem but truth he would be still doing this if i would keep putting up with anti social behaviour as for children being involved they get hurt big time and think that drink is normal in their lives and that every family must do this your friend needs a shock to make her stop I have put up with it for 10 years and said no more that I was leaving biggest wake up call ever got the nicest person in the world now but all anyone can do is one day at a time and try and keep them occupied hope everything works out god bless x



    Thanks for your reply, and I hope you get your problems sorted out too! XXX

    It is just such a hard thing to deal with...

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    BlondeBella;5244431

    yeah its no longer them anymore it the addiction speaking.



    Exactly... it a horrific transformation................. :x

    dmh77;5244434

    Exactly... it a horrific transformation................. :x



    yeah i learnt all this from that book. i felt like i was living the life with the addiction.

    I know how do you sit back and watch someone kill themselves cause thats what their doing and they are probably the best in the world sober alcohol comes for you family them your pocessions then for you you can only try but sometimes you can be taken for granted when you help to much sometimes its a win win situation

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    BlondeBella;5244438

    yeah i learnt all this from that book. i felt like i was living the life … yeah i learnt all this from that book. i felt like i was living the life with the addiction.



    But I want to fix the problem... not live it! Please tell me the cure is in there too??

    dmh77;5244443

    But I want to fix the problem... not live it! Please tell me the cure is … But I want to fix the problem... not live it! Please tell me the cure is in there too??



    Its all down to him the only thing the family friends could do was sign him in a clinic. sorry xx

    The truth is, you can't. BUT, what you could do is take them to a meeting (AA). Just find out where you local one is, and say that you want to take them out for the night (organise sitters etc.) There is something quite sobering sitting with a group of people you don't know, doctors,engineers,mothers,etc. and listening to them, and at nearly everything that they say, you are saying in your head, I did that, I did that, I've done that..... Worked for me :thumbsup:
    Joe, if you are reading this. I love you man. Hallelujah!

    you can't really, sadly its usually when someone loses everything that they stand a chance of quitting, everyone has their own level of loss though so for one person it may be their job and for another it may be everything, family, friends, everything - depending on how close you are to them, if you are a friend just be there for when they need you but pull back from them when they are drinking - try and help them find something else to take the place of drink, something to keep them occupied so they don't keep reaching for it....hope it works out for you x

    I've not read all the replies on here but it's an almost impossible task.

    There are usually two things that stop them, a serious illness (caused by their alcoholism) or death. Even a serious illness sometimes isn't enough.

    I wish you luck and hope you can persuade them to seek advice and help but an alcoholic is always an alcoholic.

    I'm sorry she still isn't doing so well. Go to the GP with her and do the best you can to get them to listen to the extent of the problem. In my experience alcoholics, if they go on their own, dont tell the full truth of the problem. There should be a local service called alcohol dependancy services that she can be refered to who help monitor the situation and help with rehab etc when the situation is right and of course there is AA. Be warned though the NHS services cannot or will not help when someone is still drinking. My friend has a habit of drinking just before the appointment and having to make another one as they wont see him.

    The biggest thing that we have had to learn while trying to help our friend is that the only person whom can help him is himself. We have taken him where ever we have had to to try and get him help but at the end of the day only he can stop himself drinking. Do the best you can but do not take responsibility for her drinking, easier said than done when you care and want to see her better. A hard situation to deal with is when some one has stayed clean for a week, two weeks and you hope they are over the worst of it and then go on a ten day solid bender. It happens and you just have to carry on hoping the the next time thay stop will be it.

    I hope your freind manages to pull her life around. Stay strong x

    AA would be a starting point
    .alcoholics-anonymous.org.uk/
    You need some help to understand it all too. Take care x

    give them some non-alcoholic beer...

    thomasc123;5245075

    give them some non-alcoholic beer...



    No, that's for non alcoholics :whistling:

    Alcohol services do exsist and are excellent in my area. The problem is, even if you manage to get them to go to the nurse or GP and they agree to counselling etc, they don't go. Only about 1/4 people who want to use the service, do it. Others either arrive drunk, or don't turn up.

    It is very hard to provide services when you know there is such a high default rate but that is the nature of most addiction services. Dreadful where children are involved and we have to put children first. If a parent arrives to be seen with a toddler, and they are drunk, we are duty bound to report it to social services. Things may then escalate but at least the child would be safe.

    Sometimes that is enough to make people realise the effect their drinking is having on others around them, but that just does not happen often enough. The stress of dealing with social services sometimes makes the drinking worse.

    You are in a dreadful situation but it is good that you are there for them. You cannot help the person until they are ready but we all have a duty to protect children who are being seriously harmed.
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