OLED OR QLED - CONSOLE GAMING

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Posted 26th Jan
Hey guys.

I’m looking for a decent tv for gaming (Xbox one x / PS4 pro) and seen mixed reviews for OLED AND QLED, and wondered if you knew which one is the best for gaming? Thanks all!
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I’m pretty sure that the LG OLED has a 1ms response time which is great so I would go with that
LG B8 or B9

although the Samsung Q70 will give you Freesync on the XBox One X
Arto26/01/2020 19:35

I’m pretty sure that the LG OLED has a 1ms response time which is great so …I’m pretty sure that the LG OLED has a 1ms response time which is great so I would go with that


Some LG monitors are 1ms but so are most monitors, TVs depends on model sub 20ms is good for tv.
Read some review websites and look at response times on different models it’s not as easy as oled vs qled...all so tomshardware is a very good tech site for stuff like this the forums are very good. Hope that helps..
Bargainhead26/01/2020 20:00

Some LG monitors are 1ms but so are most monitors, TVs depends on model …Some LG monitors are 1ms but so are most monitors, TVs depends on model sub 20ms is good for tv.


I said LG OLED not monitor
Arto26/01/2020 20:07

I said LG OLED not monitor


And I was trying to say you are wrong nicely... monitors yes TVs no...

displaylag.com/bes…rs/

samsung has lowest tv input lag at 12ms
CRT is the future
QLED is the name of a model range from Samsung's while OLED is a technology so it doesn't make much sense to compare them.

You either want to compare the technologies - OLED with LCD, or compare the top three or four models each company produces.
Bargainhead26/01/2020 20:13

And I was trying to say you are wrong nicely... monitors yes TVs …And I was trying to say you are wrong nicely... monitors yes TVs no...https://displaylag.com/best-low-input-lag-tvs-gaming-by-gamers/samsung has lowest tv input lag at 12ms


He said response time, not input lag.

OLEDs are persistence displays like LCDs so they suffer the same issues with motion smoothness. I don't have any personal experience with the top LCD TVs, but I'd certainly rate a good LCD monitor over the OLED I have experience with (A B7, which does have BFI).

I'd probably lean towards a high end LCD for gaming, although I've never been too fond of Samsung's image processing so probably one of the comparable Sony's like the XG95 depending on which size you're looking at.
Thanks for the info guys much appreciated
Where have you seen mixed reviews for an OLED panel?!

I use an lg B8 with my xbox X, its fantastic! Even after long gaming sessions I suffer from no image retention, and I'm not worried about image burn now I've tweaked settings. I turned off BFI, its horrible.
Bargainhead26/01/2020 20:00

Some LG monitors are 1ms but so are most monitors, TVs depends on model …Some LG monitors are 1ms but so are most monitors, TVs depends on model sub 20ms is good for tv.


It's actually 0.1ms for LG oled C9 in terms of response time as oled's have near instant pixel response. the LG monitor actually don't do 1ms without massive overshoot and no one uses the fastest response mode for that alone. I have a lg27gl850 which is quoted 1ms and the only way it gets near that is on fastest which every reviewer has said avoid so fast mode is perfect which is 3-4ms. The 20ms you're speaking off isn't response time it's input lag in which the oled is 6.6ms in 1080/1440p and 13ms in 4k HDR which is the best on the market.
Edited by: "Justsuperman" 26th Jan
Justsuperman26/01/2020 22:40

It's actually 0.1ms for LG oled C9 in terms of response time as oled's …It's actually 0.1ms for LG oled C9 in terms of response time as oled's have near instant pixel response. the LG monitor actually don't do 1ms without massive overshoot and no one uses the fastest response mode for that alone. I have a lg27gl850 which is quoted 1ms and the only way it gets near that is on fastest which every reviewer has said avoid so fast mode is perfect which is 3-4ms. The 20ms you're speaking off isn't response time it's input lag in which the oled is 6.6ms in 1080/1440p and 13ms in 4k HDR which is the best on the market.


Have you got link for those input lag times please?

ive been on 4/5 well known independent review sites and none are under 11ms...
Edited by: "Bargainhead" 27th Jan
Bargainhead27/01/2020 05:35

Have you got link for those input lag times please?ive been on 4/5 well …Have you got link for those input lag times please?ive been on 4/5 well known independent review sites and none are under 11ms...


At higher refresh rates yes.

rtings.com/tv/…led

1080p @ 120 Hz 6.8 ms
1440p @ 120 Hz 6.6 ms
spruceyb26/01/2020 19:45

LG B8 or B9although the Samsung Q70 will give you Freesync on the XBox One …LG B8 or B9although the Samsung Q70 will give you Freesync on the XBox One X


My brand new 55 inch samsung q70r suffers from annoying ghosting effect on youtube vids and whilst gaming if i use freesync, any fixes?
rev627/01/2020 06:45

At higher refresh rates yes.https://www.rtings.com/tv/reviews/lg/c9-oled …At higher refresh rates yes.https://www.rtings.com/tv/reviews/lg/c9-oled 1080p @ 120 Hz 6.8 ms 1440p @ 120 Hz 6.6 ms


1080p @ 60 Hz
13.5 ms1080p @ 60 Hz Outside Game Mode
100.8 ms1440p @ 60 Hz
13.9 ms4k @ 60 Hz
13.4 ms4k @ 60 Hz + 10 bit HDR
13.4 ms4k @ 60 Hz @ 4:4:4
13.3 ms4k @ 60 Hz Outside Game Mode
50.6 ms4k @ 60 Hz With Interpolation
96.7 ms8k @ 60 Hz
N/A1080p @ 120 Hz
6.8 ms1440p @ 120 Hz
6.6 ms8k with VRR
N/AAuto Low Latency Mode (ALLM)
Yes

not what I’m reading, it does 120hz but it gsync consoles are free sync, be ok for my pc but not consoles..
Bargainhead27/01/2020 07:43

1080p @ 60 Hz 13.5 ms1080p @ 60 Hz Outside Game Mode 100.8 ms1440p @ 60 …1080p @ 60 Hz 13.5 ms1080p @ 60 Hz Outside Game Mode 100.8 ms1440p @ 60 Hz 13.9 ms4k @ 60 Hz 13.4 ms4k @ 60 Hz + 10 bit HDR 13.4 ms4k @ 60 Hz @ 4:4:4 13.3 ms4k @ 60 Hz Outside Game Mode 50.6 ms4k @ 60 Hz With Interpolation 96.7 ms8k @ 60 Hz N/A1080p @ 120 Hz 6.8 ms1440p @ 120 Hz 6.6 ms8k with VRR N/AAuto Low Latency Mode (ALLM) Yesnot what I’m reading, it does 120hz but it gsync consoles are free sync, be ok for my pc but not consoles..


Not really sure what you just said, but it shows the TV has a 6.x ms input lag, 1080/1440p @ 120Hz, which an XBox One X supports.
Edited by: "rev6" 27th Jan
rev627/01/2020 07:46

Not really sure what you just said, but it shows the TV has a 6.x ms input …Not really sure what you just said, but it shows the TV has a 6.x ms input lag, 1080/1440p @ 120Hz, which an XBox One X supports.


Xbox one x is free sync, LG use Nvidia gsync for frame rate so Xbox will only push it at 60 frames over hdmi to this tv. And at 4K the Xbox will get max 60 frames if lucky.
Edited by: "Bargainhead" 27th Jan
Bargainhead27/01/2020 09:05

Xbox one x is free sync, LG use Nvidia gsync for frame rate so Xbox will …Xbox one x is free sync, LG use Nvidia gsync for frame rate so Xbox will only push it at 60 frames over hdmi to this tv.



That's not true at all.
rev627/01/2020 09:06

That's not true at all.



Ok not true... tell me what frame rate the Xbox gets at 4K in modern games. Be lucky if you get a steady 60 that’s fact.
Bargainhead27/01/2020 09:07

Ok not true... tell me what frame rate the Xbox gets at 4K in modern …Ok not true... tell me what frame rate the Xbox gets at 4K in modern games. Be lucky if you get a steady 60 that’s fact.



I never once mentioned 4K. The Xbox One X and the LG C9 support 1080/1440 @ 120Hz...
Edited by: "rev6" 27th Jan
rev627/01/2020 09:06

That's not true at all.


I have a 120mhz Samsung with FreeSync and Xbox can’t utilise it it’s under powered for higher than 60
I have ordered myself a LG E9 (65 inch was on offer for £1999 over the weekend) and gaming was one of my main concerns too.

The reason I went with the LG C9/E9 (Sound and style is only difference between C9 and E9) is due to VRR support (no screen tearing), fast response time (spoke above above), a fantastic picture (OLEDs produce the most colour accurate picture) and HDMI 2.1 support which will mean 4k/120 on new consoles (Xbox Series X and PS5).

Good comparison here of the LG C9 and Samsung Q90 - rtings.com/tv/…802
Edited by: "Gormond" 27th Jan
Bargainhead27/01/2020 09:09

I have a 120mhz Samsung with FreeSync and Xbox can’t utilise it it’s under …I have a 120mhz Samsung with FreeSync and Xbox can’t utilise it it’s under powered for higher than 60


The Xbox One X supports VRR which is also supported by the LG B9/C9/E9, this does the same thing as Freesync.
rev627/01/2020 09:08

I never once mentioned 4K. The Xbox One X and the LG C9 support 1080/1440 …I never once mentioned 4K. The Xbox One X and the LG C9 support 1080/1440 @ 120Hz...


What’s what’s the point of 4K if you can’t use it, putting the output to 1080p on a 4K looks rubbish. I have to for some pc games. Xbox no difference.
Bargainhead27/01/2020 09:17

What’s what’s the point of 4K if you can’t use it, putting the output to 10 …What’s what’s the point of 4K if you can’t use it, putting the output to 1080p on a 4K looks rubbish. I have to for some pc games. Xbox no difference.


I'll break it down for you.

Someone here said the LG OLED's support 6 ms input lag 1080/1440p.

You said you couldn't find that anywhere.

I linked you to rtings showing it.

What's the point of a 4K TV if you don't use it?

Perfect video for you:

prynolfc27/01/2020 07:14

My brand new 55 inch samsung q70r suffers from annoying ghosting effect on …My brand new 55 inch samsung q70r suffers from annoying ghosting effect on youtube vids and whilst gaming if i use freesync, any fixes?


I didn't even know it was an issue. I'm Philips all the way, can't beat Ambilight in my opinion.

Seems, you're gonna have to wait for a firmware update to fix it, I'd start messaging Samsung and console manufacturer on social media about.
rev627/01/2020 09:19

I'll break it down for you.Someone here said the LG OLED's support 6 ms …I'll break it down for you.Someone here said the LG OLED's support 6 ms input lag 1080/1440p.You said you couldn't find that anywhere.I linked you to rtings showing it.What's the point of a 4K TV if you don't use it? Perfect video for you: [Video]


But you not getting 120fps so needs to be capped at 30 or 60 if it goes over it doesn’t divide properly..

google.co.uk/amp…mp/
Bargainhead27/01/2020 09:37

But you not getting 120fps so needs to be capped at 30 or 60 if it goes …But you not getting 120fps so needs to be capped at 30 or 60 if it goes over it doesn’t divide properly..https://www.google.co.uk/amp/s/www.forbes.com/sites/kevinmurnane/2018/05/15/heres-what-you-need-to-know-about-xbox-ones-support-for-120-hz-refresh-rates/amp/


The TV still has a 6.x ms input lag 1080/1440p @ 120Hz which was the original point
Edited by: "rev6" 27th Jan
Bargainhead27/01/2020 09:37

But you not getting 120fps so needs to be capped at 30 or 60 if it goes …But you not getting 120fps so needs to be capped at 30 or 60 if it goes over it doesn’t divide properly..https://www.google.co.uk/amp/s/www.forbes.com/sites/kevinmurnane/2018/05/15/heres-what-you-need-to-know-about-xbox-ones-support-for-120-hz-refresh-rates/amp/


120Hz is still beneficial even if you are only pushing 60fps to the display, it means the display is only waiting a maximum of 8.3ms to display the image rather than 16.7ms - Digital Foundry covers this in the video posted above.
Gormond27/01/2020 09:16

The Xbox One X supports VRR which is also supported by the LG B9/C9/E9, …The Xbox One X supports VRR which is also supported by the LG B9/C9/E9, this does the same thing as Freesync.


Yes vrr stops screen tearing but only goes to 60fps at 4K...
Bargainhead27/01/2020 10:48

Yes vrr stops screen tearing but only goes to 60fps at 4K...


You said the LG uses Nvidia G-Sync but it also supports VRR which is the same as Freesync on the Samsung.

But yes it will have the same limitation Freesync has on the Xbox One X.
Gormond27/01/2020 10:56

You said the LG uses Nvidia G-Sync but it also supports VRR which is the …You said the LG uses Nvidia G-Sync but it also supports VRR which is the same as Freesync on the Samsung.But yes it will have the same limitation Freesync has on the Xbox One X.


It still supports gsync as well as they both stop tearing but gsync and FreeSync let the gpu decide FPS. I’m assuming vrr is the tv?
Bargainhead27/01/2020 11:18

It still supports gsync as well as they both stop tearing but gsync and …It still supports gsync as well as they both stop tearing but gsync and FreeSync let the gpu decide FPS. I’m assuming vrr is the tv?


It works the same way as Freesync and G-Sync, it's just part of the HDMI 2.1 standard. Both AMD and Nvidia GPUs support VRR.

The G-Sync certification means Nvidia has tested it and confirms that it works as intended. The issue with Freesync is that anyone can claim to be Freesync compatible but AMD don't actually test it.
Bargainhead27/01/2020 05:35

Have you got link for those input lag times please?ive been on 4/5 well …Have you got link for those input lag times please?ive been on 4/5 well known independent review sites and none are under 11ms...


As someone has posted the ratings link already no need for me to link it now also HDTV test also has these numbers. The C9 does indeed only have a 6ms input lag at 1080/1440p and 13 in 4k HDR. remember response time and input lag are 2 different things and it seems you got them mixed up. not many know the difference or are very unsure about the differences see here displaylag.com/exp…me/ futhermore as I said there's no better response time in terms of display technology than oled no monitor on the planet gets close to oled's pixel response.
Bargainhead27/01/2020 11:18

It still supports gsync as well as they both stop tearing but gsync and …It still supports gsync as well as they both stop tearing but gsync and FreeSync let the gpu decide FPS. I’m assuming vrr is the tv?


Nope
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