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    OMG not again! Ive lost it all! - Hard Drive problems

    Hi all, need some help here.

    My harddrive just isnt working, there is no spinning going on what so ever. It was working absolutely fine 7 hours ago, I just switched the computer off and came back and its not doing anything.

    I have tried another harddrive on the same cables and it was fine, so I know its not the cables. Ive also tried the bad harddrive in a sata doc and it isnt powering up in that either. There is no spinning going on at all, I cant hear anything from it or feel anything moving inside it.

    Harddrive is a Samsung HD103UJ 1TB sata.

    Can anyone suggest anything, I need to get my stuff off the harddrive.

    Im going to screammmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmm

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    You made a backup, right?

    How long have you had the drive?

    Sounds like the controller board has probably gone, don't suppose you have another (identical model+batch) drive?

    Banned

    Samsung? oh shhh....

    Happened to me, lost my entire porn collection. Now I keep my big jugs on a raid 5 NAS server.

    Original Poster

    No i didnt make a backup - which is my own fault I know. Every other time a disk has failed on me its always gave me that click of death before and so I knew to back up, but this gave me no warning. Its the first time since ive owned a computer (roughly 20 years) that a drive has done this to me.

    Drive is about 2.5 years old. Its also out of warranty, ive checked samsung website says that its been brought in from outside the warranty area. I will of bought it from either scan or ebuyer the swines.

    Oh god..... im gonna cry

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    danmc

    Happened to me, lost my entire porn collection. Now I keep my big jugs on … Happened to me, lost my entire porn collection. Now I keep my big jugs on a raid 5 NAS server.



    Its not porn lol, it was mostly music and music videos and some other bits n bobs but I had a lot of it.

    I just need to access it for 10 minutes lol

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    jah128

    Sounds like the controller board has probably gone, don't suppose you … Sounds like the controller board has probably gone, don't suppose you have another (identical model+batch) drive?



    How will i know that, I do have about 7 of these drives.

    apduk

    How will i know that, I do have about 7 of these drives.



    Same model and batch? You might be able to take the PCB off one and place it on the broken drive. If the internals (platters, heads and motors) are okay you might be able to at least retrieve the data yourself (was it a simple partition table?)

    apduk

    How will i know that, I do have about 7 of these drives.



    Swap the board over, needs to be exact same model.

    danmc

    Happened to me, lost my entire porn collection. Now I keep my big jugs on … Happened to me, lost my entire porn collection. Now I keep my big jugs on a raid 5 NAS server.



    1TB is a bit small for that type of stuff.

    Be warned its a risky process; you may damage the 'sacrificial' drive in the process so make sure that is fully backed up first and the whole process is worth the ~£30 risk it potentially incurs. If you value your data at more than that, its worth a try. And it will only work on drives where the controller board is external; don't open the sealed portion of the drive...
    Edited by: "jah128" 25th Feb 2011

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    jah128

    Same model and batch? You might be able to take the PCB off one and place … Same model and batch? You might be able to take the PCB off one and place it on the broken drive. If the internals (platters, heads and motors) are okay you might be able to at least retrieve the data yourself (was it a simple partition table?)



    I have the exact same harddrive (in working order), looks like same batch the P/N number at the top is only different by 574. The partition is totally different though. The bad drive had 5 partitions on it, the good drive has only 1.

    Might not be a problem - I think on most drives the MBR is stored on the disk itself, although it might be on EPROM on the controller board - not 100% to be sure, still probably worth a try if you value that data though...

    Is there any sign of damage (black marks, blown caps etc) on the PCB from the faulty drive?
    Edited by: "jah128" 25th Feb 2011

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    jah128

    Be warned its a risky process; you may damage the 'sacrificial' drive in … Be warned its a risky process; you may damage the 'sacrificial' drive in the process so make sure that is fully backed up first and the whole process is worth the ~£30 risk it potentially incurs. If you value your data at more than that, its worth a try. And it will only work on drives where the controller board is external; don't open the sealed portion of the drive...



    I dont trust the other drive anymore lol

    I think im just gonna have to kiss it goodbye I recon, I was just hoping for some simple quick temp fix. Ive had a good look at the back and I dont think Id be able to do it without either blowing myself up, or wrecking the good drive.

    Oh well.... back to the beginning I go.

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    jah128

    Might not be a problem - I think on most drives the MBR is stored on the … Might not be a problem - I think on most drives the MBR is stored on the disk itself, although it might be on EPROM on the controller board - not 100% to be sure, still probably worth a try if you value that data though...Is there any sign of damage (black marks, blown caps etc) on the PCB from the faulty drive?



    No theres no marks, no burning smell, nothing looks out of place or burnt. It still looks brand new. Im not smart enough for the swapping over the PCB, id screw it up I recon. Thanx though.

    The data is still there - even if the motors are gone. If they are though getting a pro to recover it will likely cost you much more than your data is worth.

    Mmm.

    This site suggests its probably not possible for the layman: salvagedata.com/har…uj/

    (But then they are a data recovery firm so have a vested interest in saying so!)

    If you've written it off as dead then you can always try the freezer trick (Google for info)

    Never tried it myself but you might be able to keep it alive for 10 mins while you do a quick backup of anything important

    edit: definitely read up on the procedure first cos I really know nothing about it so it might not work if you just have a broken mechanical part in your drive
    Edited by: "oldmanhouse" 26th Feb 2011

    Hit it with a hammer, sounds funny but it worked on a dead drive I had I was told that any hard shock can re-align the disk and it has now worked OK for over a year, lol

    kjbenja

    Hit it with a hammer, sounds funny but it worked on a dead drive I had I … Hit it with a hammer, sounds funny but it worked on a dead drive I had I was told that any hard shock can re-align the disk and it has now worked OK for over a year, lol



    You remided me of the good old golden days when I had my first B&W Television... lol

    1) Freeze the drive (inside an anti-static bag, then inside a plastic container)
    2) Swap the electronics with an identical drive.
    3) Hold the drive, switch on then give the drive a quick twist. Make sure you *don't* pull out the cables.

    Remember that you may only get one chance, so have everything ready to copy off all the data without needing to reboot.
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    Edited by: "nick1austin" 26th Feb 2011
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