Found 1st Dec 2005
I cant't even find a price, bloody fake search sites is all i can find with google, can anyone tell me a good price for this camera plz?
Danny =)

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I think that because this camera was superceded by GS140 and now by GS150
Is there any particular feature that you need in GS120 and doesn't exists in GS140/150?

So far the cheapest price I've found is £349 at…615

You can buy GS150 for 460 from eBuyer…=UK

Original Poster

i'm just looking for a bloody good camera and last year when i was looking the 120 seemed to be a very very good camera but i would want the same specs as the 120 but for say £200 really as i dont do that much filming but when i do i want it to be high quality

It would be easier if you could define "bloody good camera". Don't think that you could get 3CCD for 200 quid unless it is used.

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to be honest, i dont know much about cameras, i just read a lot of reviews and at the time all i wanted was something with really good (there i go again) picture quality and easy to put onto dvd, i just want to film the daughter etc and i have another coming in march so i want to film that and it would be nice to have something like that in high quality and stored on dvd or something, sorry i dotn know specs etc =(
can you help?
i could spend more if it meant getting a really good camera.
also does anyone know here if i will be able to fit say an hour filming onto a dvd, i hear that trying to compress it is a nightmare whilst trying to keep the high quality

As to cameras, I'll need to take a look what is available now and then come back to you.
And yes, you should be able to fit one hour of MPEG2 compressed video to standard DVD-5 (that's what usually available in stores). I recommend Sony Vegas Movie Studio for it.…977
It is cut down version of professional package (I have Vegas 6.0c and it is brilliant). You can get free trial from their website.
Another software to consider are Ulead Video Studio and Pinnacle Studio.
Creating your own DVD is actually very easy

What features do you expect in your camera?
1. Optical zoom size?
2. Stabilization - optical or digital?
3. Do you need photo facility and if yes, to how many megapixels do you need?
4. Do you have Firewire card or it must be USB 2.0?
5. Would you like to digitize your old video tapes to DVD through this camera (pass-through feature).
6. Do you need DV-Out?
7. Does size matters? (the bigger the camera, the better optics is in most cases).

Original Poster

dotn need it to take pictures, must be usb unless you suggest i buy a firwire card
sorry but i dont understahd the rest of the settings really, dont think the stabilisation needs to be brilliant, its just home movie stuff, nothing serious

Original Poster

oh, dont need to convert videos to dvd as i have never had a video camera might be a nice feature if it has it anyway though

OK. So Panasonic range starts from NVGS17, which is really an entry-level camera. However, from what you just told it should be alright.
It has USB 2.0 (FS), DV Out, no SD picture facility and basic anti-shaking stabilization. It is also very cheap - can be yours for less than 200 quid.
The next models in their line are adding some insignificant (to you, of course) features, but the cameras themselves are pretty much same as NVGS17.
Another good (cheap-ish) model from Panasonic to look at is NVGS75 (do not confuse it with VDRM75!) can be yours for 343 quid - and it is 3CCD model. All prices from Amazon.

From Canon range probably the most suitable us MV830/MV830i - but it comes at a price - 270 quid at least.
They don't have anything with 3CCD in your price range.

JVC... this one is tricky. Probably the best bet is GR-D93 (200 quid) but then you can't use USB for video transfers.
Sony range isn't great either. HC39 probably, but then again, it is in 300 quid range.

So to conclude, if I was after budget camcorder, I would go for Panasonic NV-GS75. It is the only 3CCD camcorder in this price range and this alone is major selling point.

Original Poster

thanks for taking the time for that. is the Panasonic NV-GS75 more than suitable for home movies of the kids etc then and when burned to dvd will look great as at the minute i have been filming off my sony digi camera and it is awful when stretched to play on a tv

It depends on how you compress it. Photo cameras usually have awful video quality with very high level of compression. Camcorders are using way less compression. So if you are going to use decent software package to compress your home video to DVD then quality should be very good. Unless you try to sqeeze more than 2 hours on single DVD disc, of course.

Original Poster

so do you stick to an hour a disc then? i just want to film the missus giving birth and as it can only be filmed once, i dont want to look at the dvd thinking that the quality isnt brilliant, so its good ye? the 3ccd

Typically, 1 hour/DVD should give you the best quality you could get. However, it is also very camera-dependent. Digital noise, for example is major reason for quantization artefacts (those nasty squares during DVD playback). Using 3 sensors should give you less noise and better picture (it also depends on SNR, matrix size vs effective pixels, etc) - assuming optics is the same.

Original Poster

but if i go for that camera, i wont be dissapointed? =)

How could I possibly know? I can tell you my views on it but it is your decision at the end. My camera is Panasonic MX8 (top-of-the-range four years ago) and I am very pleased with it, although it is single-CCD machine.
And if I would be on a market for a good camera, I probably would go for prosumer's model. But then, my requirements are different.
If I was you, I'd go to Jessops, see camera in real life, buy it (they do pricematch) and try to make DVDs at home. Like it - great. Dislike it - bring it back. What else can I say?

Original Poster

ok, that sounds better, i'll just go in and ask for a price match for 343 then.
one last thing, sorry, could you just explain to me the adv and disadv of this camera before i go and see it please so that i know a little about it

Advantages/Disadvantages compared to what? If I compare it to cheaper cameras in Panasonic range, then the clear advantages in my opinion are:
1. Large matrix (1/6" for 540K matrix, 340K effective.
2. 3CCD
3. 1.7MPix photo stills, good for occasional picture.

Major disadvantages are:
1. No passthrough mode
2. No DV In
3. No optical stabiliser.

But then, again, my camera of choice would be NVGS250B or NVGS400B
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