PAYPAL MORE BAD NEWS FOR SELLERS

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Found 9th May 2008
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I now wont be using paypal- utter shambles!

holding payments for 21 days and expect to send goods nxt day- daylight robbery!

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lol paypal is so bad, I never use paypal on listings I put items as collection only and put my phonenumber on the listings so that people can call me and collect it outside of ebay

the worst part is that you are FORCED to list paypal as an option to pay (and supply a working paypal address)

WTF??? This is getting ridiculous! They hold our money for 21 days all the time earning interest on it, nice little scam errm i mean earner sod it yes scam!

ok it sounds harsh - for the seller - but note the conditions when they will hold payments until sale has gone thru - it might have the effect to stop scammers - hopefully

i very rarely buy but i am a seller - a good one!

PayPal will not hold payments for eBay items if you meet the following … PayPal will not hold payments for eBay items if you meet the following criteria: [LIST][*]You have been an eBay member for more than 6-months, and[*]Your total Feedback score is greater than 100, and[*]Fewer than 5% of your transactions result in dissatisfied buyers*[/LIST] Or [LIST][*]Your average ]DSR is greater than 4.5, and[*]Your have received more than 20 DSRs in the last 12 months[/LIST]



Doesnt seem too bad

harlzter;2066637

WTF??? This is getting ridiculous! They hold our money for 21 days all … WTF??? This is getting ridiculous! They hold our money for 21 days all the time earning interest on it, nice little scam errm i mean earner sod it yes scam!



definatly a scam to earn money off the interest, no other agenda in mind whatsoever! *********!

well it seems good to me...it's the fees that are a scam

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It is an absolute farce another nail in the ebay coffin!

Shouldn't be too much of a problemfor me - thank godnesss x

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holly100;2066638

ok it sounds harsh - for the seller - but note the conditions when they … ok it sounds harsh - for the seller - but note the conditions when they will hold payments until slae has gone thru - it might have the effect to stop scammers - hopefullyi very rarely buy but i am a seller - a good one!




but what if the buyer is a scammer- i.e receives item and does a chargeback! so seller has no payment and no item


as it wasnt already difficult to sell with the china junk on ebay

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Titchimp;2066647

[B]Doesnt seem too bad



i have a feedback of 50 and 100% feedback- bit unfair i reckon as i also have a "verified" paypal acc

ROKO;2066694

but what if the buyer is a scammer- i.e receives item and does a … but what if the buyer is a scammer- i.e receives item and does a chargeback! so seller has no payment and no itemas it wasnt already difficult to sell with the china junk on ebay



thats why i always send recorded delivery - there paying for it!
if its over £100 get special delivery - protect yourself and your money!!
900+ never had a problem (fingers crossed)

ROKO;2066717

i have a feedback of 50 and 100% feedback- bit unfair i reckon as i also … i have a feedback of 50 and 100% feedback- bit unfair i reckon as i also have a "verified" paypal acc




i have understood it as only witholding payment in certain catagories such as ipods mobiles etc - the most likely scam items

also looking at :thumbsup:your own personal stats from ebay i cant see your money being witheld

Over the last few days I've been looking at Digital cameras and have reported numerous scammers who then got removed. This measure should stop them, although I agree it seems a bit harsh. It shouldn't effect good ebayers with good feedback, though it might put new eBayers off a bit.
I'm on the fence at the moment. I'll see how it goes.

Just remember that recorded signed for only covers you up to the value of £35. So if the goods are worth more than than then suggest Special Delivery as that covers you upto £500. I have been selling on ebay for a while now and always send recorded or if over £35 use Special Delivery but the listing fees, final selling fees and payapal fees certainly mount up.

I try selling stuff for free on free ads first of all:thumbsup:

holly100;2066727

thats why i always send recorded delivery - there paying for it!if its … thats why i always send recorded delivery - there paying for it!if its over £100 get special delivery - protect yourself and your money!!900+ never had a problem (fingers crossed)

"Your average DSR is greater than 4.5, and"

Given that a DSR score of 4 is considered 'Good', this is crazy. :w00t:

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how do you find out your ratings ebayname vickster2005

logyon;2067231

how do you find out your ratings ebayname vickster2005



It's the stars in your feedback. To get an exact figure, hover your mouse over each line of stars.

ETA: Looks like you haven't received enough feedback yet to get the DSR stars showing. You have to get 10 lots of DSR feedback for them to show.

when are paypal gunna get sorted out. does my nut the amount of interest they make on this money.

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looks like alot of people may suffer, in the long run not getting payments for people who dont have details feed back.

seen people with lower ratings than me for feeedback ect but sound slike the buyers /sellers you deal with sometimes cant be bothered to do the detailed parts with the stars

nightswimmer;2067179

"Your average DSR is greater than 4.5, and"Given that a DSR score of 4 is … "Your average DSR is greater than 4.5, and"Given that a DSR score of 4 is considered 'Good', this is crazy. :w00t:



I think that this is the worst part... :?

It does sort the good from the bad...I have over 1000+ feedback and haven't had hardly any problems as a seller

sindy;2067324

It does sort the good from the bad...I have over 1000+ feedback and … It does sort the good from the bad...I have over 1000+ feedback and haven't had hardly any problems as a seller



If it sorted the good from the bad, then it should be based on a DSR of 2.9 or below, not 4.5.

Yes but they arent basing the paypal rule just on DSR ratings

nightswimmer;2067332

If it sorted the good from the bad, then it should be based on a DSR of … If it sorted the good from the bad, then it should be based on a DSR of 2.9 or below, not 4.5.



The "bad" is based on a DSR of under 2 for sellers with 100+ feedback and who have been on eBay for 6 months.

It's only the newbies who are being pushed with 4.5.

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melmorc;2066813

Just remember that recorded signed for only covers you up to the value of … Just remember that recorded signed for only covers you up to the value of £35. So if the goods are worth more than than then suggest Special Delivery as that covers you upto £500. I have been selling on ebay for a while now and always send recorded or if over £35 use Special Delivery but the listing fees, final selling fees and payapal fees certainly mount up.I try selling stuff for free on free ads first of all:thumbsup:





That makes no difference...............

this what happened 2me- i sold a mobile for £139 used special delivery. all tracked and signed for but buyer 2weeks did a chargeback for no reason.

paypal closed the case in my favour as they could see it was signed for, but.........

my acc is still -£139 as they "cannot recover available funds from the buyer"

luckily i always make sure the funds clear into my bank before sending the goods.

i now cannot do this anymore as a result of the new policy

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ROKO;2068379

That makes no difference...............this what happened 2me- i sold a … That makes no difference...............this what happened 2me- i sold a mobile for £139 used special delivery. all tracked and signed for but buyer 2weeks did a chargeback for no reason.paypal closed the case in my favour as they could see it was signed for, but.........my acc is still -£139 as they "cannot recover available funds from the buyer"luckily i always make sure the funds clear into my bank before sending the goods.i now cannot do this anymore as a result of the new policy


I thought a chargeback was a result of a dispute so they wouldnt refund the buyer until they had decided in the buyers favour. What you describe is that the buyer instantly got his money back before a paypal decision. That can't be right!

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csiman;2068453

I thought a chargeback was a result of a dispute so they wouldnt refund … I thought a chargeback was a result of a dispute so they wouldnt refund the buyer until they had decided in the buyers favour. What you describe is that the buyer instantly got his money back before a paypal decision. That can't be right!




YES chargeback thru his credit card co.

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ROKO;2068476

YES chargeback thru his credit card co.


so in theory you could buy thousands of pounds of goods and charge them all back then close your credit card account.

I HATE PAYPAL!

man, that sucks

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csiman;2068752

so in theory you could buy thousands of pounds of goods and charge them … so in theory you could buy thousands of pounds of goods and charge them all back then close your credit card account.I HATE PAYPAL!




yep u got it!- and it does happen- ive been a victim of this

People talk as if charge backs dont happen on any other merchant accounts, it happens and the seller is still liable

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