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when the name fits PC Savage

Old news... he thought the driver was his (drivers) brother - who had been banned from driving. Still terrible behaviour from an officer of the law.

Thought somebody had been having problems with software.
Especially after seeing the word drivers X)

which PC

his surname fits him well

JAIL HIM HE IS OBVIOUSLY AN OUT OF CONTROL THUG.

I bet he was bullied at school

Had the person driving followed the orders of the police then the whole lot would of been sorted.

No I don't condone the use of the saw (blade) but I do feel that the era of the SJW's is stopping our police from being pro-active.

Their resources are cut and potentially it would of taken a while for assistance from other units to assist removing the driver. And police are taught to use fast aggressive action to distract and remove perps from vehicles.

Like I said had the driver followed the police officer's instructions none of this would have been necessary.

But that's my opinion and I know there's a few SJW's on here ready to pounce on my opinion and all I will say is...

well I'm not allowed to say it but anyone with an ounce of intelligence will be capable of completing the sentence

Hopefully with our current justice system whereby paedophiles get a non custodial sentence and allowed back home with their own kids - this officer will get a £25 victim surcharge and a slap on the wrist with a peacock feather plus he'll be awarded compensation from the driver for the stress caused by him not getting out of the vehicle (maybe £2k to make a point)

Is driving a privilege or a right?, This officer claims it's a privilege after losing it with this driver m.youtube.com/wat…NJ8

Aah cops dey complete our souls- all of them!

The driver was deliberately escalating the situation by refusing to get out of the car and was filming the whole thing just to post on social media.

Did the driver get charged with anything in regards to refusing to follow the policeman's instructions?

How long can a police man continue to demand someone step out of the vehicle before they are allowed to use force?

Destard

The driver was deliberately escalating the situation by refusing to get … The driver was deliberately escalating the situation by refusing to get out of the car and was filming the whole thing just to post on social media.Did the driver get charged with anything in regards to refusing to follow the policeman's instructions?How long can a police man continue to demand someone step out of the vehicle before they are allowed to use force?



Well it seems like he smacked the window after a few seconds lol, though that was only when he started recording.

And his reason? You're not allowed to drive it. lol
philphil61

Had the person driving followed the orders of the police then the whole … Had the person driving followed the orders of the police then the whole lot would of been sorted.No I don't condone the use of the saw (blade) but I do feel that the era of the SJW's is stopping our police from being pro-active.Their resources are cut and potentially it would of taken a while for assistance from other units to assist removing the driver. And police are taught to use fast aggressive action to distract and remove perps from vehicles.Like I said had the driver followed the police officer's instructions none of this would have been necessary.But that's my opinion and I know there's a few SJW's on here ready to pounce on my opinion and all I will say is... well I'm not allowed to say it but anyone with an ounce of intelligence will be capable of completing the sentence ;)Hopefully with our current justice system whereby paedophiles get a non custodial sentence and allowed back home with their own kids - this officer will get a £25 victim surcharge and a slap on the wrist with a peacock feather plus he'll be awarded compensation from the driver for the stress caused by him not getting out of the vehicle (maybe £2k to make a point)



We don't know what happened beforehand, but he looked and acted like a psycho lol - I wouldn't even get out of my car either.

Destard

The driver was deliberately escalating the situation by refusing to get … The driver was deliberately escalating the situation by refusing to get out of the car and was filming the whole thing just to post on social media.Did the driver get charged with anything in regards to refusing to follow the policeman's instructions?How long can a police man continue to demand someone step out of the vehicle before they are allowed to use force?

philphil61

Had the person driving followed the orders of the police then the whole … Had the person driving followed the orders of the police then the whole lot would of been sorted.No I don't condone the use of the saw (blade) but I do feel that the era of the SJW's is stopping our police from being pro-active.Their resources are cut and potentially it would of taken a while for assistance from other units to assist removing the driver. And police are taught to use fast aggressive action to distract and remove perps from vehicles.Like I said had the driver followed the police officer's instructions none of this would have been necessary.But that's my opinion and I know there's a few SJW's on here ready to pounce on my opinion and all I will say is... well I'm not allowed to say it but anyone with an ounce of intelligence will be capable of completing the sentence ;)Hopefully with our current justice system whereby paedophiles get a non custodial sentence and allowed back home with their own kids - this officer will get a £25 victim surcharge and a slap on the wrist with a peacock feather plus he'll be awarded compensation from the driver for the stress caused by him not getting out of the vehicle (maybe £2k to make a point)


And what does a psycho actually look like?

I assume from your response that you've never watched one of these cop shows on tv whereby when they attempt to get someone under arrest they use exactly the same tactics as the pc did in the video (except the saw (blade)

Or are you avoiding that to continue with your own social justice outcry?

We do not know how long this situation had been going on, we also do not know what the driver had said prior to the pc doing what he did but most of us can have a good old stereotypical guess as to why the pc did what he did.

As I stated in my first comment ITT - the only issues I have are

1 - the continued cuts (& cooking of figures) for the police
2 - the saw (blade) - it's not standard kit AFAIK

Earlier I watched a very informative and factual video about motorbike thefts in London and how it's increasing, why potentially the thefts occur (with example video footage) and why it's difficult for the police to do anything. But according to government stats crime overall is going down - yet in most cases (that's now up to 22 a day just in London) motorbikes are stolen to commit other crimes but our government tells us crime figures are decreasing.
The police in most cases of illegal use of motorbikes (whether stolen or not) do not chase the bikes because of the risk to life of the rider yet the rider could potentially kill an innocent person with their reckless riding.
I can just se it now - 1 motorbike rider whilst riding a stolen bike and chased by police hits a lamppost and dies - all hell will descend with #hashtags, social media outbursts, riots and looting's and it'll only be the normal everyday citizen with common sense and understanding that'll say to themselves "Well if he hadn't of stolen the bike" and these people will then be targeted by the SJW's as unacceptable human beings even though it's the SJW's that have been rioting and looting.

Rant over - welcome to the 21st century - what a nightmare
Edited by: "philphil61" 9th Apr

Destard

The driver was deliberately escalating the situation by refusing to get … The driver was deliberately escalating the situation by refusing to get out of the car and was filming the whole thing just to post on social media.Did the driver get charged with anything in regards to refusing to follow the policeman's instructions?How long can a police man continue to demand someone step out of the vehicle before they are allowed to use force?

philphil61

Had the person driving followed the orders of the police then the whole … Had the person driving followed the orders of the police then the whole lot would of been sorted.No I don't condone the use of the saw (blade) but I do feel that the era of the SJW's is stopping our police from being pro-active.Their resources are cut and potentially it would of taken a while for assistance from other units to assist removing the driver. And police are taught to use fast aggressive action to distract and remove perps from vehicles.Like I said had the driver followed the police officer's instructions none of this would have been necessary.But that's my opinion and I know there's a few SJW's on here ready to pounce on my opinion and all I will say is... well I'm not allowed to say it but anyone with an ounce of intelligence will be capable of completing the sentence ;)Hopefully with our current justice system whereby paedophiles get a non custodial sentence and allowed back home with their own kids - this officer will get a £25 victim surcharge and a slap on the wrist with a peacock feather plus he'll be awarded compensation from the driver for the stress caused by him not getting out of the vehicle (maybe £2k to make a point)



​plus if you Google the name of the officer there is actually another YouTube video of him. he has form.

maybe the driver did escalate the situation but the officers had no immediate reason to smash the windscreen..... was the driver about to drive away? was he about to pull a gun? don't think so.

I would look back to the ethnic minorities representative who was arrested a few months ago, who again just because he refused to give his name was man handled and tasered even though he posed no actual threat...
Edited by: "jayman1986" 9th Apr

kick_u_in_the_nuts

PC GOES COMPLETELY BONKERS !!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!



Windows sometimes does that to my PC.

Absolute hooligan, how people like this can become police officers is beyond me (but no surprise)

Destard

The driver was deliberately escalating the situation by refusing to get … The driver was deliberately escalating the situation by refusing to get out of the car and was filming the whole thing just to post on social media.Did the driver get charged with anything in regards to refusing to follow the policeman's instructions?How long can a police man continue to demand someone step out of the vehicle before they are allowed to use force?


How can you defend that? they dont ask you to get out the car until after they have checked your papers, the police officer is far too aggressive and i would do the same thing, sit and record and watch him/her get vexed.

Fuel for my nightmares tonight.

moneysavingkitten

Fuel for my nightmares tonight.



Obvious request for booty call, is obvious.

Snakeyes646

How can you defend that? they dont ask you to get out the car until after … How can you defend that? they dont ask you to get out the car until after they have checked your papers, the police officer is far too aggressive and i would do the same thing, sit and record and watch him/her get vexed.


How long do you think the policeman had been asking the driver to open his window or get out the car, nicely, before he eventually got fed up and the driver got the exact reactions he had been waiting for and then at that point started recording the policeman thus giving the impression of a helpless victim of police brutality?


No surprise from this lot tbh, think they own the place everywhere they go

treble99

No surprise from this lot tbh, think they own the place everywhere they go



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Strong member name.

philphil61

And what does a psycho actually look like?I assume from your response … And what does a psycho actually look like?I assume from your response that you've never watched one of these cop shows on tv whereby when they attempt to get someone under arrest they use exactly the same tactics as the pc did in the video (except the saw (blade)Or are you avoiding that to continue with your own social justice outcry?We do not know how long this situation had been going on, we also do not know what the driver had said prior to the pc doing what he did but most of us can have a good old stereotypical guess as to why the pc did what he did.As I stated in my first comment ITT - the only issues I have are1 - the continued cuts (& cooking of figures) for the police2 - the saw (blade) - it's not standard kit AFAIKEarlier I watched a very informative and factual video about motorbike thefts in London and how it's increasing, why potentially the thefts occur (with example video footage) and why it's difficult for the police to do anything. But according to government stats crime overall is going down - yet in most cases (that's now up to 22 a day just in London) motorbikes are stolen to commit other crimes but our government tells us crime figures are decreasing.The police in most cases of illegal use of motorbikes (whether stolen or not) do not chase the bikes because of the risk to life of the rider yet the rider could potentially kill an innocent person with their reckless riding.I can just se it now - 1 motorbike rider whilst riding a stolen bike and chased by police hits a lamppost and dies - all hell will descend with #hashtags, social media outbursts, riots and looting's and it'll only be the normal everyday citizen with common sense and understanding that'll say to themselves "Well if he hadn't of stolen the bike" and these people will then be targeted by the SJW's as unacceptable human beings even though it's the SJW's that have been rioting and looting.Rant over - welcome to the 21st century - what a nightmare



Hmm, a psycho would look like someone who put their hand through my car window and starts viciously shaking it - telling me to get out?

Yes, if you actually read my comment, I did say stuff related to that it was only recorded at a certain point - we don't know beforehand.

It's fine that he needed to take action and smack the front screen if he wasn't cooperating, and if they had the right to stop and search him.

And no, I wasn't thinking or assuming any stereotypical situation with the police officer, simply thought he clearly had the situation under control, yet he seemed like he let his emotions take over and even assumed the victim/offender was TJ?

If you think I'm trying to be a SJW, then you're wrong, it's just my opinion that the officer could have handled it a better way.

With the motorbike, I wouldn't really care - if that makes you feel better, since you think I'm a SJW. I'm 100% against crime, but just like you and me, we don't know if "TJ" done anything wrong.


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FTFY

You OK FP? Not like you to make a silly mistake?

Proves you are human (as I had doubts )

I'd like to know the reason why the guy started filming it seems the policeman was convinced he was someone else, he seemed to be accusing him of not having a right to drive and of stealing the car as well as keep calling him CJ.

If he was this CJ person that is still no way to behave what did he think he was he going to do smash the windscreen in and drag him out like in a Hollywood film.

There's an old saying that the police force is for those deemed too​ violent and unstable​ for the army.

Destard

The driver was deliberately escalating the situation by refusing to get … The driver was deliberately escalating the situation by refusing to get out of the car and was filming the whole thing just to post on social media.Did the driver get charged with anything in regards to refusing to follow the policeman's instructions?How long can a police man continue to demand someone step out of the vehicle before they are allowed to use force?



If i was faced with that i would not get out the car either.

Destard

How long do you think the policeman had been asking the driver to open … How long do you think the policeman had been asking the driver to open his window or get out the car, nicely, before he eventually got fed up and the driver got the exact reactions he had been waiting for and then at that point started recording the policeman thus giving the impression of a helpless victim of police brutality?



He was not the only one there, the man has been charged for a reason. Another officer was their i bet the police have their own footage too, the officer had a chance to say his defense. He got done why can't you accept that are you a police officer?

Destard

How long do you think the policeman had been asking the driver to open … How long do you think the policeman had been asking the driver to open his window or get out the car, nicely, before he eventually got fed up and the driver got the exact reactions he had been waiting for and then at that point started recording the policeman thus giving the impression of a helpless victim of police brutality?



Given that everyone here has only the one video to go off, how long do YOU think the policeman had been asking the driver to open his window or get out of the car 'nicely'? This is a PC who is clearly carrying a non-standard issue bladed weapon and prepared to use it in his pursuit of justice as he sees it. He's gone way overboard and is rightfully being charged.

treble99

No surprise from this lot tbh, think they own the place everywhere they … No surprise from this lot tbh, think they own the place everywhere they go

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philphil61

FTFYYou OK FP? Not like you to make a silly mistake?Proves you are human … FTFYYou OK FP? Not like you to make a silly mistake?Proves you are human (as I had doubts ;):D;) )



"Treble 99", phil' is "99 99 99", that may also be written as 999 999 (as I did).

rufnek2kx

Given that everyone here has only the one video to go off, how long do … Given that everyone here has only the one video to go off, how long do YOU think the policeman had been asking the driver to open his window or get out of the car 'nicely'? This is a PC who is clearly carrying a non-standard issue bladed weapon and prepared to use it in his pursuit of justice as he sees it. He's gone way overboard and is rightfully being charged.


If a police officer pulled you over and asked you to open your window or step out of the car, would you do it, or would you sit inside, refusing to cooperate?

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Destard

If a police officer pulled you over and asked you to open your window or … If a police officer pulled you over and asked you to open your window or step out of the car, would you do it, or would you sit inside, refusing to cooperate?



You would ask what its about first wouldn't you? the copper was saying you arent allowed to drive the car so i presume that wasn't correct and the reason the driver sat in the car. Cop is in the wrong, full-stop.

Snakeyes646

You would ask what its about first wouldn't you? the copper was saying … You would ask what its about first wouldn't you? the copper was saying you arent allowed to drive the car so i presume that wasn't correct and the reason the driver sat in the car. Cop is in the wrong, full-stop.


Yes or No?
Would you obey a police man's instructions or would you refuse to cooperate with the law and sit in your car?

Destard

Yes or No?Would you obey a police man's instructions or would you refuse … Yes or No?Would you obey a police man's instructions or would you refuse to cooperate with the law and sit in your car?


That would be a no as i dont have a car, but if i did...it would depend, id want to be told why im being asked to leave my vehicle which i have a right to know.

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Windows sometimes does that to my PC.



Yeah, but I bet you showed the mofo! X)

Edited by: "deeky" 10th Apr

Snakeyes646

That would be a no as i dont have a car, but if i did...it would depend, … That would be a no as i dont have a car, but if i did...it would depend, id want to be told why im being asked to leave my vehicle which i have a right to know.


And then what?
If you didn't like the reason given, would you just stay in your car, refusing to cooperate with the law?

Destard

Yes or No?Would you obey a police man's instructions or would you refuse … Yes or No?Would you obey a police man's instructions or would you refuse to cooperate with the law and sit in your car?



Given that we don't live in a totalitarian state and that under the described circumstances there is no obligation on me to exit the car, I would have to say no. Not least until the officer has explained why he wants me out of the car. If it's just a document check, he can do that whilst I'm still in my car.

Destard

And then what?If you didn't like the reason given, would you just stay in … And then what?If you didn't like the reason given, would you just stay in your car, refusing to cooperate with the law?


Yes.

LOL, I'd love to see the previous two keyboard heroes try that stance if they get stopped by armed police looking for terrorists.
"Sorry officers, I refuse to accept your reasons for stopping me, I am not a...uggghhh..smdsfamlmfdcvvc//..."



Edited by: "Destard" 10th Apr
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