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    Anybody know if this pc is good for gaming. like total war games and the like.
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    It looks not to bad but theres no os (windows) with it, so you can add another £50 if you need to buy it.

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    cs_elvis;6679818

    It looks not to bad but theres no os (windows) with it, so you can add … It looks not to bad but theres no os (windows) with it, so you can add another £50 if you need to buy it.



    student, so get it for 30. lol.
    thanks guys and
    will my games run at a steady framrate?

    i dont mean to be a fanboy but i think you should check out the games lineup for PS3........its way better and the ps3 costs far less.

    and multiplats aint neccessarily better on PC anyway ............ look at fifa and GTA4 for example.
    modern warfare 2 is loosing its dedicated servers.

    and it gets multiplatforms at a later date then consoles.

    if you still intend on getting a PC then the 4870 is a good GPU but i doubt it will be able to handle crysis 2 to a respectable level without frame rate drops.

    empire total war will be a peice of cake for this machine just like any other rts.

    Original Poster

    fps_d0minat0r;6679854

    i dont mean to be a fanboy but i think you should check out the games … i dont mean to be a fanboy but i think you should check out the games lineup for PS3........its way better and the ps3 costs far less.and multiplats aint neccessarily better on PC anyway ............ look at fifa and GTA4 for example.modern warfare 2 is loosing its dedicated servers.and it gets multiplatforms at a later date then consoles.if you still intend on getting a PC then the 4870 is a good GPU but i doubt it will be able to handle crysis 2 to a respectable level without frame rate drops.empire total war will be a peice of cake for this machine.



    thanks man, already got a ps3. just for toal war and everything like that. and interent and stuff.
    would you recommend a pc that will hand total war games for a better price. nothing fancy. kust something that will run rts games smoothly

    Original Poster

    ebuyer.com/pro…158
    would this handle empire total war

    dcx_badass;6679905

    Ahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahadeep … Ahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahadeep breathahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahaPS3 better game line-up than a PC? Seriously, just leave.



    lmfao...........pc exclusives suck.........

    pc doesnt have:
    demons souls
    final fantasy versus XIII
    folklore
    god of war 3
    gran turismo 5
    heavy rain
    infamous
    killzone 2
    the last guardian
    little big planet
    MAG
    metal gear solid 4
    Motorstorm
    Quantum theory
    resistance
    uncharted
    warhawk.

    ps3 was released at the end of november 2006..........for every game i mentioned i want u to put a PC exclusive next to it.

    be careful because ill check reviews from many sites and post back after you make a pathetic attempt in trying to match PS3 AAA titles.

    good luck...........youll need it.

    EDIT: put respectable upcoming titles next to games like the last guardian which havent released but are guaranteed to be epic.............dont put average games on there like most of PC's million titles are.

    Original Poster

    cmon guys, really need the help

    tony_dudz;6679929

    http://www.ebuyer.com/product/167158would this handle empire total war



    its a 7 series GPU, very similar to the RSX.

    it could potentially produce graphics of killzone and gran turismo level but too bad PC games dont optimise the hardware like PS3 exclusives do.

    go with the first system........youll get a solid frame rate at a higher res.

    Original Poster

    fps_d0minat0r;6679977

    its a 7 series GPU, very similar to the RSX.it could potentially produce … its a 7 series GPU, very similar to the RSX.it could potentially produce graphics of killzone and gran turismo level but too bad PC games dont optimise the hardware like PS3 exclusives do.go with the first system........youll get a solid frame rate at a higher res.



    i know the ps3 is better than any pc, but just, would thae last pc i mentioned, be enough for total war?

    fps_d0minat0r;6679951

    lmfao...........pc exclusives suck.........pc doesnt have:demons … lmfao...........pc exclusives suck.........pc doesnt have:demons soulsfinal fantasy versus XIIIfolkloregod of war 3gran turismo 5heavy raininfamouskillzone 2the last guardianlittle big planetMAGmetal gear solid 4MotorstormQuantum theoryresistanceunchartedwarhawk.ps3 was released at the end of november 2006..........for every game i mentioned i want u to put a PC exclusive next to it.be careful because ill check reviews from many sites and post back after you make a pathetic attempt in trying to match PS3 AAA titles.good luck...........youll need it.EDIT: put respectable upcoming titles next to games like the last guardian which havent released but are guaranteed to be epic.............dont put average games on there like most of PC's million titles are.



    My ideas on those games:

    demons souls - never even heard of
    final fantasy versus XIII - krud
    folklore - krud
    god of war 3 - havent played but does look pretty good
    gran turismo 5 - wicked...oh but not released yet!
    heavy rain - not my sort of game
    infamous - didnt get on with it
    killzone 2 - fun
    the last guardian - never heard of
    little big planet - fun for 2 levels then boring
    MAG - not sure
    metal gear solid 4 - good game
    Motorstorm - fun
    Quantum theory - havent played
    resistance - krud
    uncharted - good
    warhawk. - wasnt a fan

    And yes yes i have a ps3...and no im not a fanboy...i have ps3, 360, wii and a gaming capable pc.

    tony_dudz;6679988

    i know the ps3 is better than any pc, but just, would thae last pc i … i know the ps3 is better than any pc, but just, would thae last pc i mentioned, be enough for total war?



    2.4Ghz single core processor
    256MB Graphics card (DX9 compatible)
    1GB RAM (For XP, 2GB if using Vista)

    their the minimum system req's

    but i say go for the first so you can max out the game with a good frame rate.

    its better buying the first system then realising your not getting a good performance on new releases because the system is outdated.

    unless your willing to buy a new gaming pc within a couple of years then go for the first one.

    awoodhall2003;6680035

    My ideas on those games:demons souls - never even heard offinal fantasy … My ideas on those games:demons souls - never even heard offinal fantasy versus XIII - krudfolklore - krudgod of war 3 - havent played but does look pretty goodgran turismo 5 - wicked...oh but not released yet!heavy rain - not my sort of gameinfamous - didnt get on with itkillzone 2 - funthe last guardian - never heard oflittle big planet - fun for 2 levels then boringMAG - not suremetal gear solid 4 - good gameMotorstorm - funQuantum theory - havent playedresistance - kruduncharted - goodwarhawk. - wasnt a fanAnd yes yes i have a ps3...and no im not a fanboy...i have ps3, 360, wii and a gaming capable pc.



    i love how you didnt put any PC games.

    its what most people who defend pc do...........say consoles are rubbish but dont have anything to say when i ask them about AAA exclusives........dont worry......i didnt expect you to come up with titles matching ps3 exclusives because they just dont exist.

    i have no problem with PC's.........when they get good games ill probably have a better system then you.

    Original Poster

    fps_d0minat0r;6680041

    2.4Ghz single core processor256MB Graphics card (DX9 compatible)1GB RAM … 2.4Ghz single core processor256MB Graphics card (DX9 compatible)1GB RAM (For XP, 2GB if using Vista)their the minimum system req'sbut i say go for the first so you can max out the game with a good frame rate.its better buying the first system then realising your not getting a good performance on new releases because the system is outdated.unless your willing to buy a new gaming pc within a couple of years then go for the first one.


    yeah but i doubt i'll be using it for big games, like gears of war and crysis man.
    rts, should be able to run easily surely?

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    dcx_badass;6680053

    I've never even heard of most of those exclusives, says alot about the … I've never even heard of most of those exclusives, says alot about the quality of them, you named a few games, go check out a PC's back catalogue I think we win. Infact were you even trying to pass off a console as a gaming platform?



    mate you seem to know loads, so i would appreciate your help!
    yeah the pc has better games , but i prefer the accesability of the ps3

    dcx_badass;6680053

    I've never even heard of most of those exclusives, says alot about the … I've never even heard of most of those exclusives, says alot about the quality of them, you named a few games, go check out a PC's back catalogue I think we win. Infact were you even trying to pass off a console as a gaming platform?



    well if you havent herd of "most" of thost exclusives then im not going to bother arguing with you.

    whats the point if you dont even know what the ps3 has.

    its like saying a skoda is better then a ferrari because you dont know how powerful a ferrari is.
    who the hell argues with someone like that?

    Banned

    sorry to hijack your thread but I also need pc help


    I'm after one as my hdd died.......its old, need a new one....any reccomendations as I'm currently having to use the ps3

    dont need monitor, prob wont play games tbh...just occasional downloads and pref windows 7...any ideas?





    btw....pc gaming IS best, but 360 best games console

    Original Poster

    dcx_badass;6680067

    That PC should run the total war games fine, like I said already, or have … That PC should run the total war games fine, like I said already, or have I missed another question?



    the second pc in the first post mate. should it run the empire games?

    Original Poster

    fps_d0minat0r;6680041

    2.4Ghz single core processor256MB Graphics card (DX9 compatible)1GB RAM … 2.4Ghz single core processor256MB Graphics card (DX9 compatible)1GB RAM (For XP, 2GB if using Vista)their the minimum system req'sbut i say go for the first so you can max out the game with a good frame rate.its better buying the first system then realising your not getting a good performance on new releases because the system is outdated.unless your willing to buy a new gaming pc within a couple of years then go for the first one.



    whats the ghz in the second one mate?

    dcx_badass;6680063

    I'll throw out a few:CrysisFar Cry 2Gears of WarGTA 4Act of WarC & C … I'll throw out a few:CrysisFar Cry 2Gears of WarGTA 4Act of WarC & C seriesWorld in ConflictCSS (biggest FPS ever?)UT3Rainbow Six Vegas 1 & 2That's just what I can reach from where I am.Yes I know some of them are on a console, but they don't count because you have to use the disaster that is a gamepad.



    actually more gamers use a joypad then mouse and keyboard, get your facts straight.

    mouse and keyboard were not designed for gaming purposes, they dont even offer 360 degrees in football games........how pathetic.

    read my post.........titles after 2006.
    CSS was the biggest fps but i believe the gran turismo's on ps2 were bigger racing titles..........more people played them then WoW.

    gears of war is on xbox.......and it doesnt compare to killzone 2 anyway.

    apart from graphics, crysis is a below average game with poor AI, story and easy gameplay.

    GTA4 is better on consoles hence gamespot rated it lower on PC...........it came out late and it still couldnt improve.

    C&C red alert 3 is on PS3 with keyboard and mouse support.

    world in conflict is an average game, just like UT3 which can also be played with USB keyboard and mouse on PS3.

    your never going to match the small list i made from the top of my head of PS3 AAA titles.

    dcx_badass;6680119

    Do I really have to take a picture of my Gears of War PC version just to … Do I really have to take a picture of my Gears of War PC version just to shut you up. A mouse and keyboard is always going to be better than a joypad, just accept it, it's much more accurate and faster.Exclusive titles mean nothing, is that your only argument.



    dual analogue stick is more accurate and smooth.

    mouse is faster which is why i hate it...........you can turn 32423423423 degrees in 1 milisecond, how fake.

    and btw more people do spinning no-scopes on console versions of COD then on PC.

    gears of war sucks.......everyone knows about its average AI and its ton of bugs.
    on xbox it has a pathetic 10 player online.......not sure about PC.
    but the maps will still only be for 10 players since it was initially made for xbox.

    resistance has way more AI on screen, way better story line and can do 60 players lag free.

    exclusives titles mean everything.........thats the only difference.

    Banned

    ODB_69;6680072

    sorry to hijack your thread but I also need pc helpI'm after one as my … sorry to hijack your thread but I also need pc helpI'm after one as my hdd died.......its old, need a new one....any reccomendations as I'm currently having to use the ps3 dont need monitor, prob wont play games tbh...just occasional downloads and pref windows 7...any ideas?btw....pc gaming IS best, but 360 best games console






    anyone?

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    dcx_badass;6680145

    Just buy a new hard drive?



    like I said its old would need more than just that



    this any good?
    ebuyer.com/pro…624

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    ODB_69;6680174

    like I said its old would need more than just thatthis any … like I said its old would need more than just thatthis any good?http://www.ebuyer.com/product/173624



    yeah, would that run total war

    fps_d0minat0r;6680049

    i love how you didnt put any PC games.its what most people who defend pc … i love how you didnt put any PC games.its what most people who defend pc do...........say consoles are rubbish but dont have anything to say when i ask them about AAA exclusives........dont worry......i didnt expect you to come up with titles matching ps3 exclusives because they just dont exist.i have no problem with PC's.........when they get good games ill probably have a better system then you.


    well i didnt because i know your not going to listen, and thus didnt waste my time thinking of any!
    dcx_badass;6680063

    I'll throw out a few:CrysisFar Cry 2Gears of WarGTA 4Act of WarC & C … I'll throw out a few:CrysisFar Cry 2Gears of WarGTA 4Act of WarC & C seriesWorld in ConflictCSS (biggest FPS ever?)UT3Rainbow Six Vegas 1 & 2That's just what I can reach from where I am.Yes I know some of them are on a console, but they don't count because you have to use the disaster that is a gamepad.


    sounds about right!
    fps_d0minat0r;6680097

    actually more gamers use a joypad then mouse and keyboard, get your facts … actually more gamers use a joypad then mouse and keyboard, get your facts straight.mouse and keyboard were not designed for gaming purposes, they dont even offer 360 degrees in football games........how pathetic.read my post.........titles after 2006.CSS was the biggest fps but i believe the gran turismo's on ps2 were bigger racing titles..........more people played them then WoW.gears of war is on xbox.......and it doesnt compare to killzone 2 anyway.apart from graphics, crysis is a below average game with poor AI, story and easy gameplay.GTA4 is better on consoles hence gamespot rated it lower on PC...........it came out late and it still couldnt improve.C&C red alert 3 is on PS3 with keyboard and mouse support.world in conflict is an average game, just like UT3 which can also be played with USB keyboard and mouse on PS3.your never going to match the small list i made from the top of my head of PS3 AAA titles.


    more gamers use a gamepad? i beg to differ...how many pc gamers do you think there actually is? especially as you say when other games on consoles can now be played with a K+M!
    and dont even get me started of playing RTS on a console especially as it doesnt have the resolution either so youve got a limited view.
    fps_d0minat0r;6680127

    dual analogue stick is more accurate and smooth.mouse is faster which is … dual analogue stick is more accurate and smooth.mouse is faster which is why i hate it...........you can turn 32423423423 degrees in 1 milisecond, how fake.and btw more people do spinning no-scopes on console versions of COD then on PC.gears of war sucks.......everyone knows about its average AI and its ton of bugs.on xbox it has a pathetic 10 player online.......not sure about PC.but the maps will still only be for 10 players since it was initially made for xbox.resistance has way more AI on screen, way better story line and can do 60 players lag free.exclusives titles mean everything.........thats the only difference.


    how is it fake moving those degrees in a millisecond? turn your mouse sensitivity down...or of course do what others do on consoles turn it up!

    also i bought reisistance after it was hyped and it was disappointing i was told it was a Halo killer...BS! it sucked!

    ODB_69;6680174

    like I said its old would need more than just thatthis any … like I said its old would need more than just thatthis any good?http://www.ebuyer.com/product/173624



    Not if you want it for gaming, Intel graphics are the worst possible choice for gaming.

    You generally want an ATI 4770 or above or Nvidia 9800GTX+/GTS 250 or above, for the processor any quad-core is going to be a good choice.

    fps_d0minat0r;6679951

    ps3 was released at the end of november 2006..........for every game i … ps3 was released at the end of november 2006..........for every game i mentioned i want u to put a PC exclusive next to it.



    demons souls - Age of Conan
    final fantasy versus XIII - World of Warcraft
    folklore - Lord of the Rings Online
    god of war 3 - Men of War
    gran turismo 5 - Europa Universalis III
    heavy rain - Hearts of Iron 3
    infamous - Supreme Commander
    killzone 2 - Mount and Blade
    the last guardian - X3: Terran Conflict
    little big planet - Tropico 3
    MAG - World of Goo
    metal gear solid 4 - Killing Floor
    Motorstorm - WH40K - Dawn of War 2
    Quantum theory - Neverwinter Nights 2
    resistance - Empire: Total War
    uncharted - AI War
    warhawk. - Chronicles of Riddick: Assault on Dark Athena

    And here's another 17 recently released and upcoming PC exclusives for you to match to PS3 exclusives.

    All Points Bulletin
    Guild Wars 2
    Torchlight
    Diablo III
    Starcraft 2
    Guild Wars 2
    Interstellar Marines
    Silent Hunter 5
    Space Rangers 2: Reboot
    King Arthur
    The Witcher 2: Assassins of Kings (platforms unannounced, but the previous one was PC only)
    Star Wars: The Old Republic
    Risen
    Aion
    Anno 1404
    King's Bounty - The Legend
    And, of course, Crysis.

    And that's not even mentioning games like Dragon Age that are technically available on PS3 but with part of the experience missing compared to PC (in this case, the wonderful toolset and mass of high-quality user content that's bound to appear).

    dcx_badass;6680576

    Also, I'll throw in Battlefield Heroes (which is free) and Sims 3 (do I … Also, I'll throw in Battlefield Heroes (which is free) and Sims 3 (do I have to really go into the success of the sims?).



    Yeah, I didn't even touch the browser 3d games like Battlefield: Heroes, Combat Arms and Quake Live.

    EndlessWaves;6680552

    Not if you want it for gaming, Intel graphics are the worst possible … Not if you want it for gaming, Intel graphics are the worst possible choice for gaming.You generally want an ATI 4770 or above or Nvidia 9800GTX+/GTS 250 or above, for the processor any quad-core is going to be a good choice.demons souls - Age of Conanfinal fantasy versus XIII - World of Warcraftfolklore - Lord of the Rings Onlinegod of war 3 - Men of Wargran turismo 5 - Europa Universalis IIIheavy rain - Hearts of Iron 3infamous - Supreme Commanderkillzone 2 - Mount and Bladethe last guardian - X3: Terran Conflictlittle big planet - Tropico 3MAG - World of Goometal gear solid 4 - Killing FloorMotorstorm - WH40K - Dawn of War 2Quantum theory - Neverwinter Nights 2resistance - Empire: Total Waruncharted - AI Warwarhawk. - Chronicles of Riddick: Assault on Dark AthenaAnd here's another 17 recently released and upcoming PC exclusives for you to match to PS3 exclusives.All Points BulletinGuild Wars 2TorchlightDiablo IIIStarcraft 2Guild Wars 2Interstellar MarinesSilent Hunter 5Space Rangers 2: RebootKing ArthurThe Witcher 2: Assassins of Kings (platforms unannounced, but the previous one was PC only)Star Wars: The Old RepublicRisenAionAnno 1404King's Bounty - The LegendAnd, of course, Crysis.And that's not even mentioning games like Dragon Age that are technically available on PS3 but with part of the experience missing compared to PC (in this case, the wonderful toolset and mass of high-quality user content that's bound to appear).



    you proved my point.........their all average games.......why did u bother?
    ps3 has plenty of average games.........were talking about AAA titles only.

    dont join the arguement if you dont know what its about.

    seems fine to me, just watch the postage charge if you dont live in mainland uk, can be very expensive

    fps_d0minat0r;6694886

    you proved my point.........their all average games.......why did u … you proved my point.........their all average games.......why did u bother?ps3 has plenty of average games.........were talking about AAA titles only.dont join the arguement if you dont know what its about.



    LOL just lol :roll:
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