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    Their trying it on, but there is talk of a few 'test cases' being taken to court to see how they go (like the woman in the US who had them find against her for 1.2 million !).

    Problem is, if you have been and they can proof it by getting a court order and getting your ISP logs, they could have a case... But it's only a very slight risk.

    (BTW, I wouldn't take legal advise from forums, if in doubt CAB, or other agencys can give real legal advise by people who know the law).

    Ignore it :thumbsup:

    Even if they have details from your ISP, they only know that someone used your account to download it, whether that is a member or your household or someone outside.

    The account holder is NOT responsible, only the downloader, and the burden is on them to prove WHO it was.

    peodude;5589463

    Ignore it :thumbsup:Even if they have details from your ISP, they only … Ignore it :thumbsup:Even if they have details from your ISP, they only know that someone used your account to download it, whether that is a member or your household or someone outside.The account holder is NOT responsible, only the downloader, and the burden is on them to prove WHO it was.



    You sure about that ? Last time it came up at work it was the acc holder who was responsible?

    If your internet was not secured at the time, who says it was you

    steve1221;5589488

    You sure about that ? Last time it came up at work it was the acc holder … You sure about that ? Last time it came up at work it was the acc holder who was responsible?



    Nope, there is no British Law to support this, nor is there any case that sets a precedent for such.

    Is this for P2P apps like Limewire or for using Torrents?

    Yes...its for using public torrent sites.

    Surely the account holder cannot be responsible. When i took out my broadband i received information telling me to keep my modem/router on 24/7 for various reasons. So surely if the isp are wanting you to do that then you cannot be responsible for anything that happens while you are out (such as someone outside your home accessing your internet)

    I got one last week also for downloading a 'scooter' album.

    From what I have googled, they have never taken anyone to court, and they can not prove just from an ip address that someone in your household downloaded the item.

    I'm just ignoring it, but expecting another letter after the 21 days have passed asking for more money. I have wireless broadband, so they can not prove that is was not an illegal use of my connection that downloaded the album

    I guess they send out thousands of letters, and just reply on the people who sh*t themselves and pay up the £500, which from what I've also read, quite a few people have.

    andrew22;5606918

    I got one last week also for downloading a 'scooter' album.From what I … I got one last week also for downloading a 'scooter' album.From what I have googled, they have never taken anyone to court, and they can not prove just from an ip address that someone in your household downloaded the item.I'm just ignoring it, but expecting another letter after the 21 days have passed asking for more money. I have wireless broadband, so they can not prove that is was not an illegal use of my connection that downloaded the album :)I guess they send out thousands of letters, and just reply on the people who sh*t themselves and pay up the £500, which from what I've also read, quite a few people have.



    To be fair, anyone caught downloading a Scooter album should be fined.

    Banned

    its coming guys there is talk about the government making it completely illegal to use these sites withg their big push towards broadband for everyone and what not...... see if i can find the article

    Banned

    culture.gov.uk/wha…spx

    On 16 June the Government published The Digital Britain Report, its strategic vision for ensuring that the UK is at the leading edge of the global digital economy.

    View the final report and the executive summary.

    The report provides actions and recommendations to promote and protect talent and innovation in our creative industries, to modernise TV and radio frameworks and support local news, and introduces policies to maximise the social and economic benefits from digital technologies.

    The Report is one of the central policy commitments in the Government's Building Britain's Future plan and draft legislative programme.

    Digital Britain measures include:

    * A three-year National Plan to improve Digital Participation
    * Universal Access to today's broadband services by 2012
    * Next Generation fund for investment in tomorrow's broadband services
    * Digital radio upgrade by the end of 2015
    * mobile spectrum liberalisation, enhancing 3G coverage and accelerating Next Generation mobile services
    * robust legal and regulatory framework to combat Digital Piracy
    * support for public service content partnerships
    * a revised digital remit for Channel 4
    * consultation on funding options for national, regional and local news

    berr.gov.uk/fil…pdf this is the consultation document with details of possible legislation to be introduced

    Newsgroups, SSL nuff said :thumbsup:

    McSorted!!!!!!!!

    Banned

    harlzter;5607054

    Newsgroups, SSL nuff said :thumbsup:McSorted!!!!!!!!



    same goes mate differnece with newsgroups is they have all details of what you have downloaded and all your personal details........ 1 of the big ones was recently forced to hand over details of certain individuals who downloaded certain files....usenet i think

    casparwhite;5607084

    same goes mate differnece with newsgroups is they have all details of … same goes mate differnece with newsgroups is they have all details of what you have downloaded and all your personal details........ 1 of the big ones was recently forced to hand over details of certain individuals who downloaded certain files....usenet i think


    I don't think all news hosting companies monitor/log what you download. I've checked out mine, and it has this to say on their page;

    "No. No logs are kept except for crucial server operations logs. These are totally anonymous and do not log your username at all. They log the day-to-day status of our server and any errors that occur at the server level. Your anonimity is protected at all times."

    "There are no limits on the unlimited plans! We do not monitor or limit the amount of data you download. You are free to download as much as you need every month. There are no time limits on our plans either."

    news.astraweb.com/faq…tml

    casparwhite;5607084

    same goes mate differnece with newsgroups is they have all details of … same goes mate differnece with newsgroups is they have all details of what you have downloaded and all your personal details........ 1 of the big ones was recently forced to hand over details of certain individuals who downloaded certain files....usenet i think


    You mean rapidshare....

    Banned

    nickw90;5607230

    I don't think all news hosting companies monitor/log what you download. … I don't think all news hosting companies monitor/log what you download. I've checked out mine, and it has this to say on their page;"No. No logs are kept except for crucial server operations logs. These are totally anonymous and do not log your username at all. They log the day-to-day status of our server and any errors that occur at the server level. Your anonimity is protected at all times.""There are no limits on the unlimited plans! We do not monitor or limit the amount of data you download. You are free to download as much as you need every month. There are no time limits on our plans either."http://www.news.astraweb.com/faq.html



    i dont know about each individual company, i have seen a few reports saying they dont keep records but then i saw that rapidshare case.

    also if they pass new legislation i think we are all screwed, although it may go back underground somehow?

    broadband tax ffs

    casparwhite;5607263

    i dont know about each individual company, i have seen a few reports … i dont know about each individual company, i have seen a few reports saying they dont keep records but then i saw that rapidshare case.also if they pass new legislation i think we are all screwed, although it may go back underground somehow?broadband tax ffs


    Rapidshare isn't newsgroups.. and rapidshare do keep logs.

    We_Are_138;5606982

    To be fair, anyone caught downloading a Scooter album should be fined.



    I'd rather be accused of downloading a scooter album than the gay porn that a lot of other people are getting accused of downloading

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