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Found 31st Oct 2017
So this is how it works ,it's all about brownie points.The last line in this is the killer.
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The BBC reporting on sexual abuse? Pot calling the kettle springs to mind.
Graham19794 m ago

The BBC reporting on sexual abuse? Pot calling the kettle springs to mind.




You do know the BBC has alot of employees and alot of different departments right?
Watch Comrade Corbyn trying to squirm his way out of this one.
airfix17 m ago

Watch Comrade Corbyn trying to squirm his way out of this one.



"First leaked to the Guido Fawkes website with 36 names on it, the file has now expanded to 40, all Tory MPs, including 15 ministers of various ranks"
Not surprised by any of this, not in the slightest.

The Weinstein thing didn't make any real sense; powerful person abuses power - who would have thought it?
No, we all know power corrupts - even the chargehand can lose the plot - so what's really going on?

We already know it's happening in every walk of life all over the world - and we all know it's happened from day one.

So, they're now finding it in political circles - shock, horror - did anybody really think this was only a Hollywood thing - seriously?



This has been happening eons before anybody thought about reporting it; the real question here might well be WHY are they reporting it?
Uilleam171 h, 25 m ago

By Jessica Valenti Oct 12, …By Jessica Valenti Oct 12, 2017 Believing women sounds simple enough; it shouldn’t be a radical idea. But in a country—in a world, really—where women are routinely dismissed when they speak up, something as basic as trusting us can be revolutionary. If women knew they'd be trusted when they spoke out, more women would feel safe doing so—and abusers wouldn't feel quite so protected. Imagine if our culture believed women who came forward about sexual harassment, abuse, and assault. If it did, perhaps the victims of Harvey Weinstein's alleged predatory behavior wouldn't have feared coming forward on their own. Actress Katherine Kendall explained to The New York Times that she didn't tell anyone about the harassment she suffered at the hands of Weinstein because, "I'll never work again and no one is going to care or believe me." If women knew they'd be as trusted when they spoke out as, say, a man is, it would not only mean that more women would feel safe doing so—but that abusers wouldn't feel quite so protected.Imagine if women like Brock Turner's victim—who spoke so eloquently at her attacker’s sentencing—were listened to, not just by the public who read her viral statement, but by cops and judges and legislators. “I am not just a drunk victim at a frat party found behind a dumpster,” she said. Not that she wasn't treated like one.




Very true, but still leaves plenty of questions unanswered.

Chances of proving the allegations in a court of law are almost impossible, thus, why throw it all around like this?
Isn't there a real danger it'll all end up with the accused suing for damages?

At this time, in the absence of solid concrete evidence, it's difficult to see what's going on.



Lawyers and detectives do share a saying; Follow the money.
Who stands to gain the most from the downfall of the accused? - find them, and you may find the truth of what's going on.



Personally, I don't know any more than anyone else in hukd, but I'm thinking this is unusual.

Is it all over the news because it's the biggest story/only story/most popular story etc?

Is there really not other stories deserving of the publics interest? Are we still in the position of the media dictating what and what not the public are interested in?
Wongy1106 h, 2 m ago

"First leaked to the Guido Fawkes website with 36 names on it, the file …"First leaked to the Guido Fawkes website with 36 names on it, the file has now expanded to 40, all Tory MPs, including 15 ministers of various ranks"


Wait and see
Uilleam1711 h, 27 m ago

If women knew they'd be trusted when they spoke out, more women would …If women knew they'd be trusted when they spoke out, more women would feel safe doing so—and abusers wouldn't feel quite so protected. Imagine if our culture believed women who came forward about sexual harassment, abuse, and assault.


The things is they are trusted, just look at what has happened, Weinstein has been fired and ostracized from the industry, Keven Spacey will no longer be receiving an emmy next month. I personally know people who have been fired based solely on the word of a woman. None of these cases have been to trial yet.
Everyone who is accused of sexual harrassment has been labelled quilty before they have actually been charged with anything. So to say the victims are not believed is just rubbish.

I should point out I am in no way suggesting the victims are lying or the alleged abusers are innocent, merely stating that any person who claims abuse is taken very, very seriously.
At the heart of all this, had the initial victims come forward earlier on with allegations it probably would have stopped serial repeat offenders doing the same to other men/women. Career first it seems but better late than never I suppose…..

What gets me about the Tory MP list and what we’ve found out so far regarding the story behind it – they’ve known about their people doing things they shouldn’t and acting inappropriately for a considerable lenght of time but, rather than quietly making them put a stop to it party officials have keep schtum and collected the information to use against their MP’s at a later date, i.e. leverage when it comes to votes. Quite unbelievable actually considering it involves cabinet ministers.
Edited by: "freakstyler" 1st Nov 2017
I suspect he wont be the last.
Wongy1102 h, 2 m ago

And the first of the sleazeballs has …And the first of the sleazeballs has quithttps://www.theguardian.com/politics/2017/nov/01/michael-fallon-quits-as-defence-secretary



This is now officially ridiculous.
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