Phones in schools

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Found 22nd Mar
Why cant ALL schools just ban students from having phones. The amount of disruption in class these create not to mention the privacy issue with thousand of inappropriate photos taken as well as been a tool for bullying along with the social status of who’s got the cheapest/most expensive model, just ban them.
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deleted5795923rd Mar

I think it depends on the teaching method, the worlds changing I regularly …I think it depends on the teaching method, the worlds changing I regularly use my phone in real life from directions, Google, finances, calculator, taking notes, Dictaphone, sending messages & emails etc.. its versatile tool, teachers should be taught how to utilise it, sure it can be used for leisure and pleasure but it can be used as a tool of knowledge and learning.Doesn't matter what you did in school guys, we are the old ones now, the younger generation has interactive white boards, instant access to billions of pieces multimedia information on tap, and a wealth of knowledge and ideas to aspire.. a few bad apples in those classes are not the majority and lets be honest when we were kids we had the same in class or were one of those.iPads are now the norm in classes, should we say well I was only allowed slate and chalk so how dare today's generation have state of the art technology that we dont understand fully, Its better to learn to use these new tools to encourage kids to cope with the deveoping world of technology than to hide it away or make it an issue.


Ask a young student a question, or pose a problem to be solved, & watch them squirm because they cannot "Google it" or use Wikipedia.

Ask somebody that was educated without the techology from the last 20-ish years, & watch them try to solve the problem themselves.

Yes, there are useful tools in classrooms, but these should not be used at the expense of the ability to think for yourself.

Technology should complement, not replace, teaching methods.
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Couldn't agree more @OoEliteoO . No need for them in school, and everything you say is correct.
Completely agree my lad is in high school and tells me 60% of the class sit with headphones in listening to music, he tells me if someones phone rings kids just answer it. My wife did ring the school to ask about mobilephone policy and was told its fine as long as kids dont have it out in class. My lad says everyone has them out in class. Iv told my lad to keep it in his bag as my wife insists he takes it so she can contact him if he's late home. I'm of a different opinion that when i was at school you never took anything to school that wasn't needed and teachers should confiscate it some of my teachers confiscated for a whole month brilliant teaching i say. If you want my honest opinion he shouldn't have it at school at all and he should have more respect not to be late home. But i get told by my wife this is old fashion way of thinking time have changed.
I asked our daughters school this because of the above reasons..

There response was "they wouldn't have the parents support"

This was a weak response and I feel they are wrong...
Suggestion:

With the rest of the acceptable items published within the uniform list issued to all parents/guardians should be a specific mobile telephone handset model; named manufacturer & supplied in a single colour that is the only acceptable option. It will only allow the receipt of calls, the making of calls, & sending/receipt of SMS text messages. No Internet access & no onboard camera.

The children can either bring that model into school (with their names inside the battery compartment in permanent marker) as no other model/variation is deemed acceptable, or they must not have a mobile telephone with them during school hours.

The specific cellular network carrier could also be stated, to avoid any disputes/rivalry between peers, but that may be going a little too far (if the students wish to swap SIM cards into another model when outside of school hours).
deleted5795923rd Mar

I think it depends on the teaching method, the worlds changing I regularly …I think it depends on the teaching method, the worlds changing I regularly use my phone in real life from directions, Google, finances, calculator, taking notes, Dictaphone, sending messages & emails etc.. its versatile tool, teachers should be taught how to utilise it, sure it can be used for leisure and pleasure but it can be used as a tool of knowledge and learning.Doesn't matter what you did in school guys, we are the old ones now, the younger generation has interactive white boards, instant access to billions of pieces multimedia information on tap, and a wealth of knowledge and ideas to aspire.. a few bad apples in those classes are not the majority and lets be honest when we were kids we had the same in class or were one of those.iPads are now the norm in classes, should we say well I was only allowed slate and chalk so how dare today's generation have state of the art technology that we dont understand fully, Its better to learn to use these new tools to encourage kids to cope with the deveoping world of technology than to hide it away or make it an issue.


Ask a young student a question, or pose a problem to be solved, & watch them squirm because they cannot "Google it" or use Wikipedia.

Ask somebody that was educated without the techology from the last 20-ish years, & watch them try to solve the problem themselves.

Yes, there are useful tools in classrooms, but these should not be used at the expense of the ability to think for yourself.

Technology should complement, not replace, teaching methods.
In my son's school pupils are not permitted to use phones or smart watches during the school day. Keyboard enabled devices are permitted for educational purposes.
I agree with everyone here.
fanpages6 h, 36 m ago

Suggestion:With the rest of the acceptable items published within the …Suggestion:With the rest of the acceptable items published within the uniform list issued to all parents/guardians should be a specific mobile telephone handset model; named manufacturer & supplied in a single colour that is the only acceptable option. It will only allow the receipt of calls, the making of calls, & sending/receipt of SMS text messages. No Internet access & no onboard camera.The children can either bring that model into school (with their names inside the battery compartment in permanent marker) as no other model/variation is deemed acceptable, or they must not have a mobile telephone with them during school hours.The specific cellular network carrier could also be stated, to avoid any disputes/rivalry between peers, but that may be going a little too far (if the students wish to swap SIM cards into another model when outside of school hours).


A very good idea that, but I know from experience that the school would choose a super inflated expensive supplier and it would have to be bought from them and no one else. Parents would probably be charged £50 for a £5 phone.
splatsplatsplat9 m ago

A very good idea that, but I know from experience that the school would …A very good idea that, but I know from experience that the school would choose a super inflated expensive supplier and it would have to be bought from them and no one else. Parents would probably be charged £50 for a £5 phone.


thanks you have given me a plan for dragons den
splatsplatsplat28 m ago

A very good idea that, but I know from experience that the school would …A very good idea that, but I know from experience that the school would choose a super inflated expensive supplier and it would have to be bought from them and no one else. Parents would probably be charged £50 for a £5 phone.


Was just thinking the same thing
deleted5795923rd Mar

I think it depends on the teaching method, the worlds changing I regularly …I think it depends on the teaching method, the worlds changing I regularly use my phone in real life from directions, Google, finances, calculator, taking notes, Dictaphone, sending messages & emails etc.. its versatile tool, teachers should be taught how to utilise it, sure it can be used for leisure and pleasure but it can be used as a tool of knowledge and learning.Doesn't matter what you did in school guys, we are the old ones now, the younger generation has interactive white boards, instant access to billions of pieces multimedia information on tap, and a wealth of knowledge and ideas to aspire.. a few bad apples in those classes are not the majority and lets be honest when we were kids we had the same in class or were one of those.iPads are now the norm in classes, should we say well I was only allowed slate and chalk so how dare today's generation have state of the art technology that we dont understand fully, Its better to learn to use these new tools to encourage kids to cope with the deveoping world of technology than to hide it away or make it an issue.


Arrrrr you've put up a good argument and made valid points, I think you may have change my way of thinking on this. If used in a good mannor its a very useful tool for the classroom.
fanpages6 h, 29 m ago

Ask a young student a question, or pose a problem to be solved, & watch …Ask a young student a question, or pose a problem to be solved, & watch them squirm because they cannot "Google it" or use Wikipedia.Ask somebody that was educated without the techology from the last 20-ish years, & watch them try to solve the problem themselves.Yes, there are useful tools in classrooms, but these should not be used at the expense of the ability to think for yourself.Technology should complement, not replace, teaching methods.


agreed and i think the same about calculators in basic maths lessons!

inb4 deeky says something about slate and chalk hindering mental arithmetic abilities too...
State school life.

I suspect most of its down to parents not preparing children to be at school and learning and not having their mobile phones in use.

Socialisation begins at home, the cycle of deprivation continues from the lack of action of the parents. The apple never falls far from the tree etc. etc.

On the other side, the teachers don't want the trouble of confronting and arguing with pupils. If pupils want to listen and learn, great if not the teachers just want to get through a day as quickly and easily and pupils!
mattmerch36 m ago

thanks you have given me a plan for dragons den


A local school gave all students tablets, parents had to pay a relatively small yearly outlay and buy a case. They obviously had some backhanders somewhere as they decided to get ipads, then a few years later they were all given back as it was too expensive.
clearly schools should ban iphones, thats a no brainer
We were banned from taking our phones in to school. It didn't stop us from taking them in.
I always thought school was an attempt to prepare someone for being a useful part of the workforce after school. Which to me would mean using and being taught about the tools used in a modern day workplace.

I work with a lot of the older generation, who all seem to think that if they don't know how to do something there is no possible way to know it without someone else teaching them(unfortunately me) they seem oblivious to the fact that if they are having issues then someone else has probably had this issue and the solution will be online.
larrylightweight2 h, 13 m ago

Arrrrr you've put up a good argument and made valid points, I think you …Arrrrr you've put up a good argument and made valid points, I think you may have change my way of thinking on this. If used in a good mannor its a very useful tool for the classroom.


And phones also have a spellchecker which is no bad thing in a school environment.
jimmy_the_fridge53 m ago

And phones also have a spellchecker which is no bad thing in a school …And phones also have a spellchecker which is no bad thing in a school environment.


agreed
no need to learn to spell nowadays, just use the phones spellchecker...
brilly25 m ago

agreed no need to learn to spell nowadays, just use the phones …agreed no need to learn to spell nowadays, just use the phones spellchecker...


And if the pesky phone keeps trying to correct your spelling, u can just add ur own wordz to da 4ns dictionary.
They are banned in my nephews school but it wouldnt stop them bringing them in. Ones who get caught get it confiscated and then parents come attack with a made up emergency reason. Never ending cycle.
My daughters school have rules. The phone isn't allowed to be out of pocket and has to off/ silent.

They are only allowed it out on breaktimes but not allowed in corridors.

if they are caught using it it gets confiscated till the end of day. They get it back with a warning.

if it happens again they confiscate it and a patent has to go and collect the phone or it gets kept till end of term! (Bit harsh but it works)

i agree with these rules mostly.
i think kids need phones to contact parents in an emergency and if there's been last minute things that parents need to tell kids and vice versa.
I remember my school days with no mobile phones and when I had to contact my parents if it was an emergency or my parents had to call me for an emergency, we used carrier pigeons.

To this day I forgot myself, teachers and my parents could all use a landline phone.
I miss my pigeons :-/
Edited by: "WheresMeNuts" 23rd Mar
ours use theirs in lessons! they have homework put on google classroom and when my daughter started senior school she ran out of data once the excuse was having to use it for school work told her if thats the case the school has to provide her with wifi because we cant afford that much data. As with everything else with kids she ended up with more data any way as 500Mb was never enough.

WheresMeNuts2 h, 34 m ago

I remember my school days with no mobile phones and when I had to contact …I remember my school days with no mobile phones and when I had to contact my parents if it was an emergency or my parents had to call me for an emergency, we used carrier pigeons.To this day I forgot myself, teachers and my parents could all use a landline phone.I miss my pigeons :-/


we didnt have a landline when we moved house in the 80s dad wouldnt pay for it to be installed, cant remember what happened if we were ill think in those days they just sent you home, another thing you arent allowed to do now, how did we ever cope.
RossD897 h, 14 m ago

We were banned from taking our phones in to school. It didn't stop us from …We were banned from taking our phones in to school. It didn't stop us from taking them in.


Well done you Have you been involved in the Russian spy insident or code breaking for the Americans as your such a renegade.
OoEliteoO9 m ago

Well done you Have you been involved in the Russian spy insident or …Well done you Have you been involved in the Russian spy insident or code breaking for the Americans as your such a renegade.


Just pointing out the pointlessness of your suggestion. Have you got any more? We could ban alcohol? I'm sure that will work equally well.

Let me know if you ever get in to politics, because with ideas like yours you'll have my vote.
I thought alcohol was already banned in schools ? Sorry my mistake
OoEliteoO5 m ago

I thought


Could have fooled me.
deleted5795923rd Mar

I agree 100% with you.


I agree 100% with you.
fanpages23rd Mar

Ask a young student a question, or pose a problem to be solved, & watch …Ask a young student a question, or pose a problem to be solved, & watch them squirm because they cannot "Google it" or use Wikipedia.Ask somebody that was educated without the techology from the last 20-ish years, & watch them try to solve the problem themselves.Yes, there are useful tools in classrooms, but these should not be used at the expense of the ability to think for yourself.Technology should complement, not replace, teaching methods.



deleted5795923rd Mar

I agree 100% with you.



davewave23rd Mar

I agree 100% with you.



I disagree -0% with both of you.
PARENTS, STOP BUYING YOUR YEAR 4 KIDS A MOBILE BECAUSE YOUR MAKING REST OF THE KIDS FEELING LEFT OUT.
mine is in year 6 now, he has been moaning since year 4 that all of his friends have the latest iPhone
We always had mobiles, even in nursery

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