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    Placed to report cruelty to a dog other than the rspca

    Hi to cut a very long story short over the last 6 months me and my partner have had to report a dog owner who lives behind us as his dog is outside barking all day from 7am till 8 30pm(ish)now this dog is a alsation and is kept in a very small area,its left out in very bad rain,last year it was left out in snow and to be frank the owner is a nasty piece of work!we have spoken to council and got no where after recordings,the rspca didnt realy want ot know,even out 2 year old daugher is to scared to go outside because of this dog,its not the dogs thought i know but all very frustraiting,just wondering if anyone else has been in the same sort of situation and what they did to stop this


    thanks

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    Does the dog have shelter?

    Original Poster

    not from what i can see,this dog barks loudly all day with maybe a 2-5 min gap in between

    Ring the local council and speak to the people about noise.

    If it is barking that much it is causing a noise problem and the council can stop that.

    have you already reported to rspca if so what have they said?

    just wondering if anyone else has been in the same sort of situation and … just wondering if anyone else has been in the same sort of situation and what they did to stop this



    What is it that you want to stop?

    Environmental Heath guidance ]here

    Banned

    Get back on to the RSPCA dont take no for an answer if you genuinely believe this dog is not being treated right

    Original Poster

    thesaint;3429819

    What is it that you want to stop?



    the dog noise,i can understand dogs bark but not from 7am till 8pm everyday,i have already been down the council road and got no where after completing a diary sheet and even having the sound recorder.the council women was no help at all and didnt seem to think it was that much of a problem,maybe she migh of thought differnt if she lived in the house

    strobez1977;3429876

    the dog noise,i can understand dogs bark but not from 7am till 8pm … the dog noise,i can understand dogs bark but not from 7am till 8pm everyday,i have already been down the council road and got no where after completing a diary sheet and even having the sound recorder.the council women was no help at all and didnt seem to think it was that much of a problem,maybe she migh of thought differnt if she lived in the house



    Okay, you said it was only an hour and a half in your opening post.

    Do you have the letter from the council? If you do, it may be an idea to post your letter to them, and their response. someone may be able to give you pointers as what to write.

    i personnally would report this to the rspca as it clearly sounds to me that it is being mistreated no dog should be outside for that amount of time aspecially when raining etc this is just pure cruel makes me wonder when they bother feeding it poor dogs probably barking for there attention so yes i would report but thing is you say he is a nasty piece of work so if you do will he know its you?even so i would still report.

    yeah you said from 7am to 8.30am or is it 7am to 8.30pm.

    - Keep on at the RSPCA. Unfortunately I'm not sure how far they'd get as a friend of mine had them sent to his neighbour - they showed up and 'didn't have enough evidence / power' to do anything.

    - Keep on at the council, keep recording and take photos/videos if poss.

    - Post his address / phone number on here.

    Banned

    thesaint;3429930

    Okay, you said it was only an hour and a half in your opening post.



    Nah I read it wrong too its 7AM until 8.30PM

    greyparrot;3429941

    i personnally would report this to the rspca as it clearly sounds to me … i personnally would report this to the rspca as it clearly sounds to me that it is being mistreated no dog should be outside for that amount of time aspecially when raining etc this is just pure cruel makes me wonder when they bother feeding it poor dogs probably barking for there attention so yes i would report but thing is you say he is a nasty piece of work so if you do will he know its you?even so i would still report.yeah you said from 7am to 8.30am or is it 7am to 8.30pm.



    As long as it has shelter, it is fine outside.

    Some dogs never come in the house

    ODB_69;3429962

    Nah I read it wrong too its 7AM until 8.30PM



    The OP has been edited.

    thesaint;3429963

    As long as it has shelter, it is fine outside.Some dogs never come in the … As long as it has shelter, it is fine outside.Some dogs never come in the houseThe OP has been edited.



    look i understand what you are saying about a shelter as my mum used to have akitas and they were outside dogs but was only ever outside while she was at work surely to be outside for 13 and half hours is wrong whats the point in having the dog.

    Original Poster

    would anyone be able to provide me with contact etc,i live in the town of dereham in norfolk.

    ive been down the council route and got no where and also the rspca seemed to be no help.

    somthing must be able to be done,everytime somone came down to listen to the noise the owner caught wind of it via friends etc and straight away put the dog inside then back ou again after this,

    greyparrot;3430029

    look i understand what you are saying about a shelter as my mum used to … look i understand what you are saying about a shelter as my mum used to have akitas and they were outside dogs but was only ever outside while she was at work surely to be outside for 13 and half hours is wrong whats the point in having the dog.




    It's not "What is the point". The law doesn't require a dog to come inside.
    The RSPCA are upholders of the law.

    My mum(not in this country) has a dog that has never been in the house.


    strobez1977;3430063

    would anyone be able to provide me with contact etc,i live in the town of … would anyone be able to provide me with contact etc,i live in the town of dereham in norfolk.ive been down the council route and got no where and also the rspca seemed to be no help.somthing must be able to be done,everytime somone came down to listen to the noise the owner caught wind of it via friends etc and straight away put the dog inside then back ou again after this,



    So no letters then?

    strobez1977;3430063

    would anyone be able to provide me with contact etc,i live in the town of … would anyone be able to provide me with contact etc,i live in the town of dereham in norfolk.ive been down the council route and got no where and also the rspca seemed to be no help.somthing must be able to be done,everytime somone came down to listen to the noise the owner caught wind of it via friends etc and straight away put the dog inside then back ou again after this,



    no being funny or anything but you put this post on for peoples advise yet you cant answer people you have had myself and thesaint answer to you but you never answer back.

    thesaint;3430205

    It's not "What is the point". The law doesn't require a dog to come … It's not "What is the point". The law doesn't require a dog to come inside. The RSPCA are upholders of the law.My mum(not in this country) has a dog that has never been in the house.So no letters then?



    yeah i understand was more looking into this to see if the dog had a shelter or anything from what he was saying i thought the dog maybe just in a yard with nothing so i thought thats cruel aspecially if it is left in bad weather with nowhere to shelter. i do know of some people that have a dog that never comes in the house but it has a proper kennel.anyway looks like the op doesnt like to answer any of our questions so really there was no point in this post.

    My dog is outside all day,sometimes from 7am-10pm depending, he barks sometimes, thats what dogs do but he has food, water and can go sit in the shed if he wants.

    strobez1977

    Hi to cut a very long story short over the last 6 months me and my … Hi to cut a very long story short over the last 6 months me and my partner have had to report a dog owner who lives behind us as his dog is outside barking all day from 7am till 8 30pm(ish)now this dog is a alsation and is kept in a very small area,its left out in very bad rain,last year it was left out in snow and to be frank the owner is a nasty piece of work!we have spoken to council and got no where after recordings,the rspca didnt realy want ot know,even out 2 year old daugher is to scared to go outside because of this dog,its not the dogs thought i know but all very frustraiting,just wondering if anyone else has been in the same sort of situation and what they did to stop this



    Titchimp;3430371

    My dog is outside all day,sometimes from 7am-10pm depending, he barks … My dog is outside all day,sometimes from 7am-10pm depending, he barks sometimes, thats what dogs do but he has food, water and can go sit in the shed if he wants.



    Let me introduce you two; you appear to be neighbours :whistling::p

    -monky-;3430622

    Let me introduce you two; you appear to be neighbours :whistling::p



    Lol, i did wonder why the big mic boom kept getting put over our fence :thumbsup:

    It seems your complaint about the noise has been disregarded, so now you're trying the animal cruelty tack and it has been disregarded too. What a shame. I've had trouble with noisy neighbours too, unfortunately you nearly always need to suck it up and get on with your life.

    RSPCA aint gonna think leaving a dog in your back yard is cruelty, just to save you some time , if its got food and water then thats good enough for them. Dogs originally lived outside remember :thumbsup:

    Does your fence back onto his? if so look into one of the ultra sonic devices that stop dogs barking and position it so it points over the garden at the dog

    Leaving the dog inside all day could be seen as cruel!!! I have 3 2 dont mind either way but one hates being inside cries and pines if we bring her in!!!

    I'm sure if you keep harping on to the RSPCA they should do something, a dog that lives outside must be able to get into a shelter- are you saying the dog has no where to go and the insector have left it that way??

    Original Poster

    greyparrot;3430262

    no being funny or anything but you put this post on for peoples advise … no being funny or anything but you put this post on for peoples advise yet you cant answer people you have had myself and thesaint answer to you but you never answer back.



    Sorry to offend you in such a way but i have my 2 year old daughter to look after as well so if im not responding fast enough for you well.....

    everyone else thanks for helping,just trying to see what everyone else thinks about the situation and collecting as much info as possible

    thanks

    Original Poster

    i feel the dog should be taken out for walks and not stuck in a cornerd part of the back garden,all dogs need regular exercise im sure you will agree,the owner did have a noise notice served on them but the enviroment officer left the company and since they employed a new person she wasnt up for taking it any further yet the first officer was all up for it.im not the only person on the estate to complain about the dog.

    Like I say, you have a noise complaint that you are desperately trying to turn into a cruelty complaint. It's not going to work, you need to go back to the council for your noise complaint,

    Original Poster

    tessb;3431086

    Like I say, you have a noise complaint that you are desperately trying to … Like I say, you have a noise complaint that you are desperately trying to turn into a cruelty complaint. It's not going to work, you need to go back to the council for your noise complaint,




    from my window i cant see if there is a shelter for the dog,im not tyring to turn it into a cruelty complaint!im not ruling out anything

    just get one of ]these

    give the dog a taste of its own medicine :thumbsup:

    we had a situation like this with a neighbour a few doors away- really nice people, but never took their alsation for walks EVER, it was always outside on a rope attached to a post. enquired with the rspca and they said it wasn't cruelty and had no power to do anything.. it was a birrova mad dog anyway, used to go beserk if it happened to be let off the lead...i wonder what happened to it..?!

    We had a similar problem and the Environmental Health Dept at our local council dealt with it and we ended up going to court over the matter and they were bound over for 12 months and found guilty of 4 charges in relation to noise pollution. The owners of the dogs were council tennants though but at the end of the day noise pollution is a matter for the environmental health dept to deal with no matter what. The only thing is they or the police have to witness the noise pollution also.
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