Please help. MOTer's, does the handbrake come under the M.O.T??

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Found 10th Apr 2009
My friend had her mot 3 weeks ago and my neighbour has just knocked on the door to tell us her car is in the fence down the road. A telegraph pole luckily stopped it and thank god its raining and no kids playing out. The handbrake was on and she was able to drive the car forward while it was still on (AFTER THE MISHAP) so obviously its a handbrake failure, would this not have come up with the mot. The handbrake cable has not snapped its holding now a few notches higher than it was. Is the m.o.t er at fault or is it just one of those things.

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i think its ok on an mot as long as it doesnt have more than three clicks or something like that

Yes it does but is only a test of road worthiness on that day.

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ynot-say-yes;4885586

Yes it does but is only a test of road worthiness on that day.



so insurance should cover it as the mot is new and its not down to neglecting the maintenance of the car.

Be sure you report the incident to BT, that pole could now be unsafe for an engineer to climb. You can do it anonymous dial 150 from a payphone

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Paddy_o_furniture;4885619

Be sure you report the incident to BT, that pole could now be unsafe for … Be sure you report the incident to BT, that pole could now be unsafe for an engineer to climb. You can do it anonymous dial 150 from a payphone



will do, thanks :thumbsup:

michelleleemoo;4885614

so insurance should cover it as the mot is new and its not down to … so insurance should cover it as the mot is new and its not down to neglecting the maintenance of the car.



depends when it was last serviced. and whether it was neglect or failure of a part.

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ynot-say-yes;4885649

depends when it was last serviced. and whether it was neglect or failure … depends when it was last serviced. and whether it was neglect or failure of a part.



MOT'D AND SERVICED 3 weeks ago

Driver error by the sound of things, if it holds when applied fully.

michelleleemoo;4885614

so insurance should cover it as the mot is new and its not down to … so insurance should cover it as the mot is new and its not down to neglecting the maintenance of the car.



michelleleemoo;4885656

MOT'D AND SERVICED 3 weeks ago



Then you may have some recourse against whoever serviced it. I would get it checked somewhere else.

If parking on a hill, best to leave the car in gear and apply the handbrake too.

Did the service include a handbrake adjustment?

Sounds like the handbrake was not applied, or not applied properly to me.

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Inactive;4885691

Driver error by the sound of things, if it holds when applied fully.



it rolled with the handbrake pulled to the height it is always pulled, however now it pulls higher, so no driver error imo

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michelleleemoo;4885738

it rolled with the handbrake pulled to the height it is always pulled, … it rolled with the handbrake pulled to the height it is always pulled, however now it pulls higher, so no driver error imo



Some people have dyslexia on here ref inactive's comment

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how old is your car? what is it?

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lumoruk;4885758

Some people have dyslexia on here ref inactive's comment



I dont get you?

Inactive;4885691

Driver error by the sound of things, if it holds when applied fully.



I have to agree, it is up to the driver to apply the handbrake properly, not, apply it to the point where it used to be secure at. You shouldn't need to count the clicks, you fully apply the hand brake, that's all.


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Original Poster

the hand brake WAS fully applied, although NOW it applies at a higher height
implying it has slipped.

michelleleemoo;4885812

the hand brake WAS fully applied, although NOW it applies at a higher … the hand brake WAS fully applied, although NOW it applies at a higher height




Lucky no one was injured.
Best get a complete brake overhaul, as something in the rear brake drums may be sticking/jamming, or the ratchet mechanism on the handbrake may be faulty?
Hand brake cables can stretch with time, or if the rear shoes/discs are wearing low, you find you need to pull the lever higher to make them contact properly with the rear brake drums.
Leave it in gear whilst parking at the moment, try not to leave it on a hill too?

michelleleemoo;4885812

the hand brake WAS fully applied, although NOW it applies at a higher … the hand brake WAS fully applied, although NOW it applies at a higher heightimplying it has slipped.



Rubbish, the driver did not apply it fully, it rolled away.

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Inactive;4885857

Rubbish, the driver did not apply it fully, it rolled away.



so if the hand brake cable had of snapped does that also mean the hand brake wasnt applied properly in the first instance? NO!

michelleleemoo;4885885

so if the hand brake cable had of snapped does that also mean the hand … so if the hand brake cable had of snapped does that also mean the hand brake wasnt applied properly in the first instance? NO!




If the cable had snapped it would not be working now.

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michelleleemoo;4885885

so if the hand brake cable had of snapped does that also mean the hand … so if the hand brake cable had of snapped does that also mean the hand brake wasnt applied properly in the first instance? NO!



No need to shout at people, you asked for an opinion and you've been given it. You haven't even responded to some of our questions. If it is your friend you are talking about then let her deal with it rather than raising your own blood presure.

You'll find no answers here, do your research elsewhere and get a real answer rather than opinion.

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michelleleemoo;4885781

I dont get you?



I'm agreeing with you, people aren't reading what you've wrote properly because they are dyslexic.

H_K;4885915

You'll find no answers here, do your research elsewhere and get a real … You'll find no answers here, do your research elsewhere and get a real answer rather than opinion.




I think they have been given good answers here, from inactive and myself, they just don't like them, that's all.

michelleleemoo;4885885

so if the hand brake cable had of snapped does that also mean the hand … so if the hand brake cable had of snapped does that also mean the hand brake wasnt applied properly in the first instance? NO!



Make up your mind, you said the cable had not snapped.

In any case, even if the cable had have snapped it has nothing to do with the MOT, it was obviously OK when tested.

Tell " your friend " to apply it fully next time.

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Shambolic;4885898

If the cable had snapped it would not be working now.



I said IF, I was using it as an example. Anyway you are not being helpfull. Could anyone who posts please advise re the question I posted as I would not have asked it if I knew it was because the handbrake had not been put on properly, thank you.

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michelleleemoo;4885949

I said IF, I was using it as an example. Anyway you are not being … I said IF, I was using it as an example. Anyway you are not being helpfull. Could anyone who posts please advise re the question I posted as I would not have asked it if I knew it was because the handbrake had not been put on properly, thank you.



In the MoT they check to make sure that it takes no more than 5 clicks to apply the hand brake

Shambolic;4885938

I think they have been given good answers here, from inactive and myself, … I think they have been given good answers here, from inactive and myself, they just don't like them, that's all.




Exactly, +1:thumbsup:

michelleleemoo;4885949

I said IF, I was using it as an example. Anyway you are not being … I said IF, I was using it as an example. Anyway you are not being helpfull. Could anyone who posts please advise re the question I posted as I would not have asked it if I knew it was because the handbrake had not been put on properly, thank you.



Get the brakes checked out properly, by someone who knows what they are doing.
If they are OK. The handbrake was not applied and that's why the car rolled away.
Handbrakes don't tend to develop intermittent faults.
And, NO, it's not the fault of the mot tester.

It's "One of those things".

Lots of cars can drive with the handbrake on, but how did she know this? If she knew this before her car rolled away, then she should have rectified it if she thought it were something that was unsafe.

lumoruk;4885960

In the MoT they check to make sure that it takes no more than 5 clicks to … In the MoT they check to make sure that it takes no more than 5 clicks to apply the hand brake



I haven't MOT tested for a few years, but I never counted the clicks, as it means nothing, I have never failed a car because it reached the necessary requirement on the 6th click. :?

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in the op i put this

The handbrake was on and she was able to drive the car forward while it was still on,

this was meant to read as this was after the mishap, if that is where confusion has arose then i apologise and i will amend the op

michelleleemoo;4885949

I said IF, I was using it as an example. Anyway you are not being … I said IF, I was using it as an example. Anyway you are not being helpfull. Could anyone who posts please advise re the question I posted as I would not have asked it if I knew it was because the handbrake had not been put on properly, thank you.



I am being helpful, you just don't like the truth, face facts, the cable hasn't snapped, the car ran away, it now holds OK when fully applied; verdict, handbrake not applied properly.

Shambolic;4885984

Get the brakes checked out properly, by someone who knows what they are … Get the brakes checked out properly, by someone who knows what they are doing.If they are OK. The handbrake was not applied and that's why the car rolled away.Handbrakes don't tend to develop intermittent faults.And, NO, it's not the fault of the mot tester.



Do the above, it's my best advice. :roll:

a few strands of the cable could have broken giving it more travel , you should get it checked soon as possible. what make of car is it? because there have been problems with a few cars that as the brakes cool down after a run can release the handbrake slightly .

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Inactive;4885993

I am being helpful, you just don't like the truth, face facts, the cable … I am being helpful, you just don't like the truth, face facts, the cable hasn't snapped, the car ran away, it now holds OK when fully applied; verdict, handbrake not applied properly.



you are quite right the handbrake has not snapped, (I used that as an example of how something could still happen with the handbrake being fully applied in the first instance.0 however the height at which it was fully applicable before rolling is not applicable now.
I would like to thank everyone for their time and effort they have put into answering my question.
It was not meant to turn into a debate over whether it was applied properly in the first place, as it was most definately applied fully.

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Shambolic;4886051

Do the above, it's my best advice. :roll:



Thank you

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thewww;4886067

a few strands of the cable could have broken giving it more travel , you … a few strands of the cable could have broken giving it more travel , you should get it checked soon as possible. what make of car is it? because there have been problems with a few cars that as the brakes cool down after a run can release the handbrake slightly .



Renault Megane 03 plate

michelleleemoo;4886091

It was not meant to turn into a debate over whether it was applied … It was not meant to turn into a debate over whether it was applied properly in the first place, as it was most definately applied fully.



Had the car killed someone, the police would have impounded the vehicle and tested the brakes.

If they found them to be in order, I would be very interested to know exactly how you could possibly have proven to them that your' "friend" fully applied the handbrake?

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Shambolic;4886134

Had the car killed someone, the police would have impounded the vehicle … Had the car killed someone, the police would have impounded the vehicle and tested the brakes. If they found them to be in order, I would be very interested to know exactly how you could possibly have proven to them that your' "friend" fully applied the handbrake?



does happen apparently ]http//ww…tml

michelleleemoo;4886166

does happen apparently … does happen apparently ]http://www.cararticles.co.uk/uk-vauxhall-hit-by-renewed-faulty-handbrake-alarm.html




So it's a vauxhall now ;-)

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Shambolic;4886185

So it's a vauxhall now ;-)



:-D (its an example) Im off now. Like I said thank you all for your comments
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