Found 12th Dec 2008
Two members of the Welsh assembly bought iPods on taxpayer-funded expenses, it has emerged.

Conservative leader Nick Bourne and fellow Tory Alun Cairns submitted the portable music players, worth a combined £398, as office costs.

Meanwhile Labour husband and wife AMs Huw Lewis and Lynne Neagle claimed £22,298 between them.

A breakdown of AMs' claims for their offices, living allowances and travel expenses was issued by the assembly.

Seven AMs claimed the full £12,000 allowed for second home expenses, and a further 12 claimed close to the limit during the 2006-07 financial year.

However, several AMs claimed either nothing at all, or in the low hundreds for the year.

In addition to claiming for an iPod, Mr Bourne, who represents Mid and West Wales, also used his additional costs allowance to buy a £120 trouser press, and has claimed a total of more than £5,000 over the past two years on his bathroom.

Mr Cairns, a South West Wales AM, also bought his office a £250 Dyson vacuum cleaner.

Monmouth Tory AM Nick Ramsay bought his office a television, a stand and television insurance costing £814.98.

An earlier batch of second-home expenses, released in August, showed he spent £977.95 on a Sony LCD television and surround-sound system.

Former South Wales East Conservative AM Laura Ann Jones bought a television costing more than £1,000 in January 2007. She lost her seat in the May 2007 election.

A Conservative party spokesman said there was no information on what had happened to the television.

Labour Local Government Minister Brian Gibbons, the AM for Aberavon, spent £16.50 on a Royal British Legion wreath, his office costs show.

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What a complete an utter joke. Legalised corruption people paying their hard earned cash so MPs can get ipods and ridiculously expensive tvs on expenses...

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However, several AMs claimed either nothing at all, or in the low hundreds for the year. at least there are a few reasonable ones...

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If there's trough then some snouts are bound to dip into it.
I would say to vote out those who over-induge.

Perks of the job :lol:

There all a bunch of mofos....at the end of the day its our money!!! they cant do their jobs properly and just to top it all they spend our hard earned cash. ***** **** ****** ****** Heads

Theres an extra tier of politicians in Wales - MEP's, MP's, AM's, County Councillors, Community Councillors. A cull is long, long overdue.

What a complete an utter joke. Legalised corruption people paying their … What a complete an utter joke. Legalised corruption people paying their hard earned cash so MPs can get ipods and ridiculously expensive tvs on expenses...



Do they do the job well?

I would guess that this would be more important to the more intelligent that are represented, rather than an I-pod or two.

thesaint;3743118

Do they do the job well?I would guess that this would be more important … Do they do the job well?I would guess that this would be more important to the more intelligent that are represented, rather than an I-pod or two.



It does not matter if they do their job well or not, buying expensive items like TVs etc with OUR money is just not on.

I have no objection to paying for a second home for an MP if they live a long way from their parliament, but I dont see why we should be expected to also furnish it with expensive items as well.

This is just a legal form of corruption.

Benefit cheats?

guilbert53;3743196

It does not matter if they do their job well or not, buying expensive … It does not matter if they do their job well or not, buying expensive items like TVs etc with OUR money is just not on.I have no objection to paying for a second home for an MP if they live a long way from their parliament, but I dont see why we should be expected to also furnish it with expensive items as well. This is just a legal form of corruption.



Unless it's illegal, then to me, it's more important whether they are doing their job correctly or not.

I couldn't care less personally whether my local MP has bought an I-pod and claimed it on his expenses.

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thesaint;3743118

Do they do the job well?I would guess that this would be more important … Do they do the job well?I would guess that this would be more important to the more intelligent that are represented, rather than an I-pod or two.



Sorry so I am not intelligent? You dont even know me.

Also what right do they have to use expenses to buy these things when they already earn a decent wage. What other profession would allow their workers to claim things like tvs sofa ipods on expenses when they have nothing to do with the job.

guilbert53;3743196

It does not matter if they do their job well or not, buying expensive … It does not matter if they do their job well or not, buying expensive items like TVs etc with OUR money is just not on.I have no objection to paying for a second home for an MP if they live a long way from their parliament, but I dont see why we should be expected to also furnish it with expensive items as well. This is just a legal form of corruption.



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cbryanp;3743991

Also what right do they have to use expenses to buy these things when … Also what right do they have to use expenses to buy these things when they already earn a decent wage.



They have every right, unless you are saying otherwise.

Your posts appear to be attacking individuals, not the rules that they abide by.

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thesaint;3744026

They have every right, unless you are saying otherwise.Your posts appear … They have every right, unless you are saying otherwise.Your posts appear to be attacking individuals, not the rules that they abide by.



I wasn't talking about a legal right because I haven't seen expenses rules etc more of a moral right. But to be honest if they are allowed to claim for things like ipods and televisions something needs to change.

But we may agree to disagree because you clearly dont seem to mind them wasting taxpayers money on luxury whereas I do.
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