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    Poppy Burning Extremist gets £50 fine

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    What the 'ell man?

    This man burns poppies, poppies which are used to symbolise the fallen men that battled for us in the world wars.

    And he gets away with a £50 fine while still earning his £792 benefits each month.

    Its absolutely disgusting, he should just get chucked out the country.

    Imagine if I burned a qu'ran for a laugh? I bet il'd get way more than a £50 fine.

    Sickens me,

    227 Comments

    Original Poster

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    And he gets away with a £50 fine while still earning his £792 benefits e … And he gets away with a £50 fine while still earning his £792 benefits each month.



    What benefits does he get?
    What's the usual fine for the crime committed?

    Original Poster

    I ain't got a clue, but the whole system is screwed.

    I'll just keep quiet on this one when it comes to poppies.

    Banned

    WheresMeNuts

    I'll just keep quiet on this one when it comes to poppy's.



    How come?

    The guy is a dick. Should have been fined much more imo to make an example of him.

    thesaint

    What benefits does he get?What's the usual fine for the crime committed?

    maximum fine was £1000! got of lightly

    sufcrock123

    maximum fine was £1000! got of lightly



    The maximum fine is never an indicator of what the usual fine is.

    disgraceful!!!

    Shocking!! You get a bigger fine for putting the wrong rubbish in the recycling bags around here than he did burning the poppy! oO
    Edited by: "beth3735" 8th Mar 2011

    what a waste of time/money prosecuting this guy!! cant understand why he is so anti british soldiers...dumbass.

    What he really needs investigating for is tax evasion and benefit fraud, i bet he really only earns £120 per week ,My wifes mother works at a taxi firm where we live and most of the drivers there are part time wink wink,And all their houses are rented so they get housing benefit,

    The guys involved are idiots, plain and simple - what they thought they would achieve by burning poppies, apart from inciting anger towards themselves, and other innocent muslims, is something I cannot comprehend. It was a hugely disrespectful and inflammatory act.

    I in no way condone their actions, however, we need to think about a few things:
    - We are constantly reminded about "freedom of speech" - this is evident when, for example, a group of people thought it would be a statement to burn the muslim holy book, the Quran. When there was a huge outcry from muslims about this, a large proportion of people could not understand what the problem was - these people burning the Qurans were exercising their "freedom of speech" - "if you don't like freedom, leave this country" etc etc. Now, some of those same people want to condemn this action - Hypocrites. Qurans were burnt in this country, although I am not sure if those who took part in this were brought to justice.
    e.g. Telegraph Article
    - I think as a society, we need to be clearer on what freedom of speech actually means, as it is not a true, full freedom, and for good reasons. At the end of the day, there are idiots on all sides who go to great lengths to NOT promote peace.

    ^^^^^^^^^

    very well said.

    Put them on a Boat with a hole in it.

    Original Poster

    put them in a hole with a boat on it

    Banned

    Put a hole in them with a boat?

    I cant stand the fact that these types of people (i mean extremist not muslims before anyone tried to shoot me down and get me banned) are allowed to get away with as much as they have. I too read the BBC article and was disgusted. He works part time and earns a little over £400, yet he bags over £700 on benefits..... disgusting!!!!! The benefit system is an absolute joke, it seems it only helps those trying to swindle the system, not those who geniunley need it.

    If i was the judge i would have sentenced him to community service as punishment as a £50 fine is a big slap in the face to those who have lost loved ones in the war. Not to mention a huge waste of public money.

    Rupz

    I cant stand the fact that these types of people (i mean extremist not … I cant stand the fact that these types of people (i mean extremist not muslims before anyone tried to shoot me down and get me banned) are allowed to get away with as much as they have. I too read the BBC article and was disgusted. He works part time and earns a little over £400, yet he bags over £700 on benefits..... disgusting!!!!! The benefit system is an absolute joke, it seems it only helps those trying to swindle the system, not those who geniunley need it. .



    What benefits does he get?

    thesaint

    What benefits does he get?



    I initially though your query was because you were enquiring whether there was anything he is unlawfully claiming bt now i think you just want to get on the claim wagon lol

    Rupz

    I cant stand the fact that these types of people (i mean extremist not … I cant stand the fact that these types of people (i mean extremist not muslims before anyone tried to shoot me down and get me banned) are allowed to get away with as much as they have. I too read the BBC article and was disgusted. He works part time and earns a little over £400, yet he bags over £700 on benefits..... disgusting!!!!! The benefit system is an absolute joke, it seems it only helps those trying to swindle the system, not those who geniunley need it. If i was the judge i would have sentenced him to community service as punishment as a £50 fine is a big slap in the face to those who have lost loved ones in the war. Not to mention a huge waste of public money.



    Obviously he cannot possibly be claiming those benefits legitimately

    Rupz

    I initially though your query was because you were enquiring whether … I initially though your query was because you were enquiring whether there was anything he is unlawfully claiming bt now i think you just want to get on the claim wagon lol



    I would like to know which benefits he is claiming, whether lawfully or unlawfully.

    sancho1983

    Obviously he cannot possibly be claiming those benefits legitimately



    Really? Which ones?

    Original Poster

    are you just trolling 'thesaint' ?

    matt3454

    are you just trolling 'thesaint' ?



    I have asked a reasonable question have I not?

    Original Poster

    it just seems very sarky.

    I reckon his £700 benefits will be about £500 rent paid, and then council tax (depending on whether he privately rents or council, if it's council, it'll be about £350 rent) he might also get a small portion of income support, to "make up his money to a liveable amount" although having approx £1300 a month is a liveable income to me!!!

    thesaint

    Really? Which ones?



    For someone who is quite sarcastic your sarcasm radar appears to be on the fritz.........

    thesaint

    What benefits does he get?What's the usual fine for the crime committed?



    Pretty sure that is the minimum fine possible.

    Are you surprised though? Muslims seem to get away with everything.. A non-muslim inciting racial hatred can expect a minimum of community service + a hefty fine.

    Our "scared to effect anyone but a british mans human rights" judges are sending out completely the wrong message again!

    Little test. Go and burn a koran or similar muslim item in the streets of london, see if you only get a 50 quid fine.
    Edited by: "jonny619447" 7th Mar 2011

    jonny619447

    Pretty sure that is the minimum fine possible. Are you surprised though? … Pretty sure that is the minimum fine possible. Are you surprised though? Muslims seem to get away with everything.. A non-muslim inciting racial hatred can expect a minimum of community service + a heft fine. Our "scared to effect anyone but a british mans human rights" judges are sending out completely the wrong message again!Little test. Go and burn a koran or similar muslim item in the streets of london, see if you only get a 50 quid fine.



    Bit of a sweeping statement

    sancho1983

    Bit of a sweeping statement



    Its true. You look at the way they are allowed to burn flags in the streets, go around with posters chanting and preaching about death to westerners. Happens at every "protest", sickens me.

    Banned

    thesaint

    I would like to know which benefits he is claiming, whether lawfully or … I would like to know which benefits he is claiming, whether lawfully or unlawfully.



    Why do you need to know? Worried you might be missing out on something?

    sancho1983

    For someone who is quite sarcastic your sarcasm radar appears to be on … For someone who is quite sarcastic your sarcasm radar appears to be on the fritz.........



    It's a serious thread.
    Hence, I take things in it seriously.

    does anyone know what fine was given to these guys so we have some sort of comparison

    dailymail.co.uk/new…tml

    sorry for daily mail link.

    r4ge

    does anyone know what fine was given to these guys so we have some sort … does anyone know what fine was given to these guys so we have some sort of comparisonhttp://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article-1332877/Girl-arrested-Facebook-footage-Koran-burning-school.htmlsorry for daily mail link.



    From what i remember the girl, aged 15, was let off with a warning.............daily mail......shame on you lol
    Edited by: "Rupz" 7th Mar 2011

    Rupz

    From what i remember the girl, aged 15, was let off with a … From what i remember the girl, aged 15, was let off with a warning.............daily mail......shame on you lol



    i am truly ashamed of myself, i couldn't believe i could stoop to such low levels, i will not be able to leave the house & show my face for at least one week.

    That smirking face turns my stomach.

    jonny619447

    Pretty sure that is the minimum fine possible. Are you surprised though? … Pretty sure that is the minimum fine possible. Are you surprised though? Muslims seem to get away with everything.. A non-Muslim inciting racial hatred can expect a minimum of community service + a hefty fine.


    Really???? like what? What this guy did (and I am not condoning his actions) was not race related but if you were to incite racial hatred then you will be charged with a much serious crime.
    jonny619447

    Our "scared to effect anyone but a british mans human rights" judges are … Our "scared to effect anyone but a british mans human rights" judges are sending out completely the wrong message again!


    Hang on, are you telling me that a Muslim cannot be British? judging by your mannerism, you seem to hold the view that only indigenous white people are British!

    jonny619447

    Little test. Go and burn a koran or similar muslim item in the streets of … Little test. Go and burn a koran or similar muslim item in the streets of london, see if you only get a 50 quid fine.


    Do you read other comments or do a little research beore you make a fool of yourself? if you read jcampwala's comment, some guys did burn the Quran but as of yet have not been persecuted, and that incident happened before Armistice day, so it is highly unlike that anything will come of that particular incident.

    Edited by: "Rayhul" 7th Mar 2011

    in this country there seems to be alot of hate towards muslims in general,i find this very hard to explain being as most muslim people are kind law abiding people who live and respect out country and its laws,theres always gonna be afew exstreamists in every walk of life shame to many people jump the gun a label everyone with the same brush

    chillyyyy

    in this country there seems to be alot of hate towards muslims in … in this country there seems to be alot of hate towards muslims in general,i find this very hard to explain being as most muslim people are kind law abiding people who live and respect out country and its laws,theres always gonna be afew exstreamists in every walk of life shame to many people jump the gun a label everyone with the same brush

    I agree with what you say,but look at it this way.
    Your are going to America & you have been offered a choice of plane A that is full of say Christians or you can fly on plane B that is full of Muslims,now what plane would you choose ?

    The problem with Muslims is that they have a very very small minority of extremists that has made it harder for the UK whites to trust & it's not racist it's just a fact.

    i thought we lived in a "free country" lol

    chillyyyy

    in this country there seems to be alot of hate towards muslims in … in this country there seems to be alot of hate towards muslims in general,i find this very hard to explain being as most muslim people are kind law abiding people who live and respect out country and its laws,theres always gonna be afew exstreamists in every walk of life shame to many people jump the gun a label everyone with the same brush


    its because people belve whatever they are told, and at this moment they are told to dislike muslims, so guess what ...

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