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    POTUS proposes 603$ billion for military spending

    OMB Director Mick Mulvaney says that @POTUS is proposing $603 billion in military spending. fxn.ws/2lY…Oie
    He will make major cuts to other types of spending to pay for this

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    Original Poster

    OMB Director Mick Mulvaney says that @POTUS is proposing $603 billion in military spending. fxn.ws/2lY…Oie

    To make it easier for folks to understand , how much are they spending now - and by what percentage is the rise proposed to be ?

    Maybe not such a headline after all . Just about back to slightly less than the 2008 -2013 yearly budgets of £650 - £720 Billion .
    Edited by: "rogparki" 27th Feb

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    rogparki

    To make it easier for folks to understand , how much are they spending … To make it easier for folks to understand , how much are they spending now - and by what percentage is the rise proposed to be ? Maybe not such a headline after all .



    About a 9.5% rise if that helps

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    archer1204

    OMB Director Mick Mulvaney says that @POTUS is proposing $603 billion in … OMB Director Mick Mulvaney says that @POTUS is proposing $603 billion in military spending. http://fxn.ws/2lYQOie



    A bit nuts considering he wants NATO to contribute more & he believes himself to be no warmonger.

    YouDontWantToKnow

    About a 9.5% rise if that helps


    And compared to 2011 , before the Obama cuts ? - a 13% drop oO You fell into that one

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    rogparki

    ]And compared to 2011 , before the Obama cuts ? - a 13% drop oO You fell … ]And compared to 2011 , before the Obama cuts ? - a 13% drop oO You fell into that one



    I didnt fall for anything. Its a rise of around 9.5% on current spending.

    Or would you rather I said a rise of 120% since 2000?

    YouDontWantToKnow

    I didnt fall for anything. Its a rise of around 9.5% on current spending. … I didnt fall for anything. Its a rise of around 9.5% on current spending. Or would you rather I said a rise of 120% since 2000?


    Yes that's nearly correct - just wouldn't like folks who don't take an interest in current affairs to be misled by The Original Post .

    what did they spend before?

    I am outraged, anyone got a petition. I will march, USA must not defend democracy, Putin has already told us Assad is a nice bloke.

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    davewave

    what do they spend now?



    $600bn rising to circa $654bn

    Edited by: "YouDontWantToKnow" 27th Feb

    YouDontWantToKnow

    $600bn rising to circa $654bn



    ​ok, world isn't safer, Obama cut back, seems entirely reasonable and expected.

    Hmmm. Stoking xenophobia, attempting to silence the free press, big increase in military spending. Anyone would think he and his pals were preparing for a war of aggression.

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    Rom

    Hmmm. Stoking xenophobia, attempting to silence the free press, big … Hmmm. Stoking xenophobia, attempting to silence the free press, big increase in military spending. Anyone would think he and his pals were preparing for a war of aggression.



    Or he is going to get the military to build the Mexican wall & then station 10 troops per mile to enforce it ?

    Rom

    Hmmm. Stoking xenophobia, attempting to silence the free press, big … Hmmm. Stoking xenophobia, attempting to silence the free press, big increase in military spending. Anyone would think he and his pals were preparing for a war of aggression.



    ​a war in the world right now...that would be unimaginable...there are no people stoking a war right now...apart from Putin, the fat one from North Korea, the nutty one from Syria, the nutty ones from Hizbollah, Al Nusra, Hamas, ISIS, Putin...hmm maybe you forgot about em.

    davewave

    ​a war in the world right now...that would be unimaginable...there are no … ​a war in the world right now...that would be unimaginable...there are no people stoking a war right now...apart from Putin, the fat one from North Korea, the nutty one from Syria, the nutty ones from Hizbollah, Al Nusra, Hamas, ISIS, Putin...hmm maybe you forgot about em.


    I was under the impression this thread was about about an increase in US military spending.

    Rom

    Hmmm. Stoking xenophobia, attempting to silence the free press, big … Hmmm. Stoking xenophobia, attempting to silence the free press, big increase in military spending. Anyone would think he and his pals were preparing for a war of aggression.



    'the free press' actually do far more racist, sexist and immoral things (including lying, hacking and violating peoples privacy) which in comparison make Trump look like a saint, so I'm not sure which side you are on. Do you believe in free speech, or not?

    Take your time answering. You dont want to end up telling us that you have double standards.

    Original Poster

    Rom

    I was under the impression this thread was about about an increase in US … I was under the impression this thread was about about an increase in US military spending.


    Trump called it a historic increase in military spending

    We sincerely hope DT isn't planning on going to....rui. ...aherm liberate another ME country
    with the extra budget cos we all know how that ends, you know when the shizzle hits the fans.

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    CookinBat

    We sincerely hope DT isn't planning on going to....rui. ...aherm liberate … We sincerely hope DT isn't planning on going to....rui. ...aherm liberate another ME country



    That is exactly the plan. Probably has his eyes on Iran

    YouDontWantToKnow

    That is exactly the plan. Probably has his eyes on Iran


    Exactly. Undoing Obama's legacy...Inb4 blah blah blah and the blah boyz.

    Original Poster

    Its more the effects that will be felt around the world by the planned budget cuts and which departments in particular he will hit.
    On his hitlist is the environment and foreign aid.
    Edited by: "archer1204" 27th Feb

    Which country is going to bare the brunt of all that firepower I wonder?

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    splatsplatsplat

    Which country is going to bare the brunt of all that firepower I wonder?



    There is only one left

    Iran

    fps_d0minat0r

    'the free press' actually do far more racist, sexist and immoral things … 'the free press' actually do far more racist, sexist and immoral things (including lying, hacking and violating peoples privacy) which in comparison make Trump look like a saint, so I'm not sure which side you are on. Do you believe in free speech, or not?Take your time answering. You dont want to end up telling us that you have double standards.


    Yes I believe in free speech, bit confused about what my double standard might have been. Do you mean I've somehow been trying to shut Donald Trump up?
    Edited by: "Cr0m" 27th Feb

    YouDontWantToKnow

    That is exactly the plan. Probably has his eyes on Iran


    I agree, thought maybe he was trying to stir things up with China with his refusal to endorse the 'one China' policy but he seemed to back away from that with his tail between his legs. Haven't even heard them declared currency manipulators which I think was promised on day 1, along with abolishing Obamacare...

    fps_d0minat0r

    'the free press' actually do far more racist, sexist and immoral things … 'the free press' actually do far more racist, sexist and immoral things (including lying, hacking and violating peoples privacy) which in comparison make Trump look like a saint, so I'm not sure which side you are on. Do you believe in free speech, or not?Take your time answering. You dont want to end up telling us that you have double standards.



    ​they also make up false figures about public attendance during the presidential inauguration and also falsely claim that Trump had the biggest electoral college win margin since Reagan.. damn lying manipulating press!!!

    davewave

    ​a war in the world right now...that would be unimaginable...there are no … ​a war in the world right now...that would be unimaginable...there are no people stoking a war right now...apart from Putin, the fat one from North Korea, the nutty one from Syria, the nutty ones from Hizbollah, Al Nusra, Hamas, ISIS, Putin...hmm maybe you forgot about em.


    You missed Multi-land and Bickering-Misc, those 2 are always at war.

    jayman1986

    ​they also make up false figures about public attendance during the p … ​they also make up false figures about public attendance during the presidential inauguration and also falsely claim that Trump had the biggest electoral college win margin since Reagan.. damn lying manipulating press!!!



    Oh wow, they managed to get together and write a half decent story. Well done to them indeed! I think we should cut them some slack and let them get away with a few stories where they dont have any evidence to back up their claims.

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    Rom

    I agree, thought maybe he was trying to stir things up with China



    A couple of aircraft carriers sitting in the South China Sea would do that

    Nah, he is beefing it up to Iran

    fps_d0minat0r

    Oh wow, they managed to get together and write a half decent story. Well … Oh wow, they managed to get together and write a half decent story. Well done to them indeed! I think we should cut them some slack and let them get away with a few stories where they dont have any evidence to back up their claims.


    I really though the anti-media message would only appeal to the unintelligent in America. News media refers to print, radio, television and now the Internet too, to lump them all in as one monolithic institution shows a sad lack of imagination. To believe that the hundreds of thousands of people in the industry have all set aside their differences, and their demonstrably different political viewpoints, to gang up to lie about Trump flies in the face of sanity.
    Only someone with no notion of professionalism in their own life could swallow the line that all journalists would betray their own morals and training to join this absurd and massive conspiracy. It's invasion of the body snatchers type stuff - a gross insult to the intelligence that requires little to identify as such.

    Edited by: "Cr0m" 28th Feb

    YouDontWantToKnow

    A couple of aircraft carriers sitting in the South China Sea would do … A couple of aircraft carriers sitting in the South China Sea would do that ;)Nah, he is beefing it up to Iran


    It could only be very very limited action, I know they want to retain control or freedom of movement in the Persian gulf but any kind of confrontation is sooo risky. Not that hard to sink a warship with an anti-ship missile. Ground action in Iran proper has to be unthinkable?

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    Rom

    It could only be very very limited action, I know they want to retain … It could only be very very limited action, I know they want to retain control or freedom of movement in the Persian gulf but any kind of confrontation is sooo risky. Not that hard to sink a warship with an anti-ship missile. Ground action in Iran proper has to be unthinkable?



    I was joking about China (as the only thing he can do is park a couple of ships just to vex them a bit).

    If he is going to war.... It will be Iran for sure.

    YouDontWantToKnow

    I was joking about China (as the only thing he can do is park a couple of … I was joking about China (as the only thing he can do is park a couple of ships just to vex them a bit).If he is going to war.... It will be Iran for sure.


    I can't believe he's that crazy, it would be a disaster. There must be an easier 'victim'.

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    Rom

    There must be an easier 'victim'.



    I can think of one without nuclear weapons? Unless he wants to attack the Maldives for being Islamic?
    Edited by: "YouDontWantToKnow" 28th Feb

    Rom

    Yes I believe in free speech, bit confused about what my double standard … Yes I believe in free speech, bit confused about what my double standard might have been. Do you mean I've somehow been trying to shut Donald Trump up?



    Yes I believe in free speech

    LOL Of course you do.
    Edited by: "Fred.Smith" 28th Feb

    Fred.Smith

    Yes I believe in free speechLOL Of course you do.


    Crushing weak arguments doesn't mean I don't believe in the right to free speech, you're very welcome to keep making them. I'm just exercising mine doing it

    Rom

    Crushing weak arguments doesn't mean I don't believe in the right to free … Crushing weak arguments doesn't mean I don't believe in the right to free speech, you're very welcome to keep making them. I'm just exercising mine doing it



    That doesn't really explain where my post on that thread from last night went.

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    Fred.Smith

    That doesn't really explain where my post on that thread from last night … That doesn't really explain where my post on that thread from last night went.



    If your comment is not here anymore it has obviously been deleted by a Mod. Why do you ask the obvious?

    Rom

    Crushing weak arguments doesn't mean I don't believe in the right to free … Crushing weak arguments doesn't mean I don't believe in the right to free speech, you're very welcome to keep making them. I'm just exercising mine doing it



    As for weak arguments since when have economic policies such as privatisation, fiscal austerity (imposed on any nation bailed out by the EU) deregulation, free trade etc been classed as socialist?

    I await your explanation.
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