Found 23rd Jan 2011
I was just reading through an article on my local news page. The article is about how a man raped and threatened to kill a prostitute and was convicted and sentenced to A minimum of 4 years.

Most of the comments underneath were pretty blunt saying 4 years was harsh and prostitutes are scum who bring it on themselves. "he is a danger to prostitutes,not a danger to women" some comments read.

This women had also been the subject to a similair attack once before.

I'm struggling to understand how she can keep going back and doing this. She's not punished in anyway.

Surely a sentence for her aswell in this!

What do you think? Someone needs to draw the line.

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Drink and Drugs.

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JonnyTwoToes

Drink and Drugs./thread



Care to elaborate a little?

What do you think she should be punished for exactly? She has done nothing wrong but has been raped and threatened!! Prostitution is not illegal in the UK but raping and threatening to kill someone both are.

JonnyTwoToes

Drink and Drugs./thread


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Just because shes a prostitute doesn't mean she should be raped and threatened with murder - she must already be in a dire state to go on the streets anyway.
This guy is clearly violent and may well be a danger to other women.

she must not have anything to fall back on and feels that she has no other choice than to prostitute herself.

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Susannah

What do you think she should be punished for exactly? She has done … What do you think she should be punished for exactly? She has done nothing wrong but has been raped and threatened!! Prostitution is not illegal in the UK but raping and threatening to kill someone both are.



Well, i can honestly say I didn't know prostitution wasn't illegal here. Shocked.

DangerGod

Well, i can honestly say I didn't know prostitution wasn't illegal here. … Well, i can honestly say I didn't know prostitution wasn't illegal here. Shocked.


its very borderline
and if theres a pimp involed it is 100% illigal

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patience_1

Just because shes a prostitute doesn't mean she should be raped and … Just because shes a prostitute doesn't mean she should be raped and threatened with murder - she must already be in a dire state to go on the streets anyway. This guy is clearly violent and may well be a danger to other women.



Dire state? Or a junkie lowlife?
this has happened to "it" before. No sympathy from me anyway.

The poor woman must be in an awfully bad situation to be doing this to herself. The man needs stringing up, the woman needs help imo

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DangerGod

Dire state? Or a junkie lowlife?this has happened to "it" before. No … Dire state? Or a junkie lowlife?this has happened to "it" before. No sympathy from me anyway.



Then you are the lowlife "it".

Some people are beyond help.
Edited by: "JonnyTwoToes" 23rd Jan 2011

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JonnyTwoToes

Then you are the lowife "it".Some people are beyond help.



Haha, me?
You think this woman needs to be treated with respect? Don't make me laugh.

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DangerGod

Haha, me? You think this woman needs to be treated with respect? Don't … Haha, me? You think this woman needs to be treated with respect? Don't make me laugh.



I'm more concerned about the desire to start a thread that you obviously have strong opinions about - such as hating women.

DangerGod

Haha, me? You think this woman needs to be treated with respect? Don't … Haha, me? You think this woman needs to be treated with respect? Don't make me laugh.


end of the day, if that was your daughter or sister you wouldnt be saying that

im sure 90% of prostitues do it out of no choice...but there is a 'get rich quick' side to it as well....so at least these sorta stories reinforce how dangerous it is.

not feeling too sorry for her though, this country gives u the benefits and housing etc....i cant imagine why they are that desperate they sell their dignity.... unless they are living beyond their means...ie drugs....

im assuming here and maybe someone can enlighten me if im wrong.

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JonnyTwoToes

I'm more concerned about the desire to start a thread that you obviously … I'm more concerned about the desire to start a thread that you obviously have strong opinions about - such as hating women.



Women and prostitues, not atall the same.
Hate women? bit of an idiotic statement.

nebno6

its very borderlineand if theres a pimp involed it is 100% illigal



Not entirely true.

The act of prostitution is not illegal. Loitering/Soliciting on the street is what makes it illegal.
Where a 'pimp' is concerned, again its not the act of prostitution but the man living off her earnings as a prostitute that is illegal.

dcx_badass

They act like scum and then are suprised when they're treated like scum. … They act like scum and then are suprised when they're treated like scum. oO



agree...but to an extent. i find the rape conviction a bit odd...shes laying it on the table.

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DangerGod

Women and prostitues, not atall the same.Hate women? bit of an idiotic … Women and prostitues, not atall the same.Hate women? bit of an idiotic statement.



Oh dear.

magicbeans

im sure 90% of prostitues do it out of no choice...but there is a 'get … im sure 90% of prostitues do it out of no choice...but there is a 'get rich quick' side to it as well....so at least these sorta stories reinforce how dangerous it is.not feeling too sorry for her though, this country gives u the benefits and housing etc....i cant imagine why they are that desperate they sell their dignity.... unless they are living beyond their means...ie drugs....im assuming here and maybe someone can enlighten me if im wrong.



Agree with you MB

If it meant putting food on the table for my girl, and was truly a last resort, I'd be shocked who sAid no.

magicbeans

agree...but to an extent. i find the rape conviction a bit odd...shes … agree...but to an extent. i find the rape conviction a bit odd...shes laying it on the table.



WTF Rape is Rape regardless who is the victim

Lulu'sMammy

If it meant putting food on the table for my girl, and was truly a last … If it meant putting food on the table for my girl, and was truly a last resort, I'd be shocked who sAid no.



surely ud have benefits and what not to help u out with that...if u then spent it on things other then feeding urself and her , then u arent doing it for her. imho!

(whoops...sounds like u r the designated theoretical prostitue ITT!)

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JonnyTwoToes

Oh dear.



No, go on then JTT,you have to elaborate. Why do I hate women exactly? I refer to a prostitute as "it" and you say I hate women. So I guess everyone else who feels no sympathy for her (such as magicbeans) also hate women?

Hang on, what the hell was the woman prostitue doing out of the kitchen in the first place?

I cant believe peoplecare trying to justify what this person did I wont say "man" cos he isnt . What this woman chooses to do with her life is up to her just because she sells sex means she deserved to be raped and beaten ? What about the porn industry then , they all get paid for having sex !

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tinkerbell28

Because she has not broken any law. He has by paying for sex however … Because she has not broken any law. He has by paying for sex however ohhhhhhhhh and rape and all that...........



I'd be reasonably confident she has broken the law..... I wonder how much tax she has paid on her earnings... and how much she is claiming for benefits whilst "working".

magicbeans

agree...but to an extent. i find the rape conviction a bit odd...shes … agree...but to an extent. i find the rape conviction a bit odd...shes laying it on the table.



Shoplifting ok too ? I mean they are laying "stuff" on the table in exchange for money?

Same **** different day :P

Let's be allowing anyone to kill a drug dealer too eh ? I mean they deserve everything they get right? and aren't really human...

Because a female for whatever reason decides to sell her body does not give ANYONE the right to rape her. The fact it's happened before hardly makes it her fault either.

What next? that "bitch" who got raped walking home from the nightclub deserved it because she was wearing a mini skirt and so OBVIOUSLY was laying it on the table.

some people are seriously trolling or have a weird view of what's right and wrong :P

notts6501

WTF Rape is Rape regardless who is the victim



when u stand on street corners at night dressed provoctively u cant expect all blokes to walk past u bidding u a good day...u r there to sell sex in whatever form they demand.....beggars cant be choosy and all....

she can claim its rape....but she could be making that up...she could have consented then changed her story....who knows.....

every job has its perks and lows.... still dont think she should have been threatened but i think its a bit rich saying she was raped. have some dignity woman and dont get urself in that situation.

some truly concerning comments coming from the OP.

Your total lack of compassion for people, and lack of understanding of the wide and complex issues involved highlights that you don't understand this issue at all

guv

I'd be reasonably confident she has broken the law..... I wonder how much … I'd be reasonably confident she has broken the law..... I wonder how much tax she has paid on her earnings... and how much she is claiming for benefits whilst "working".



Regardless of if she hasn't paid any tax, is on drugs or is the scum of the earth it doesn't mean she deserved to be raped.

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DangerGod

No, go on then JTT,you have to elaborate. Why do I hate women exactly? I … No, go on then JTT,you have to elaborate. Why do I hate women exactly? I refer to a prostitute as "it" and you say I hate women. So I guess everyone else who feels no sympathy for her (such as magicbeans) also hate women?



Let's get something straight - I don't 'have to' do anything a prepubescent demands of me.
I am not about to enter into a debate with an amoeba who seems to think 'prostitutes' can be labelled as 'it' just so its less taxing on your little brain.

Women, who decide/or are forced to go into prostitution do it for a myriad of reasons. To suggest a woman, of any repute, is at fault for being raped is simply sick.

Get an education and grow up.
Edited by: "JonnyTwoToes" 23rd Jan 2011

magicbeans

when u stand on street corners at night dressed provoctively u cant … when u stand on street corners at night dressed provoctively u cant expect all blokes to walk past u bidding u a good day...u r there to sell sex in whatever form they demand.....beggars cant be choosy and all....she can claim its rape....but she could be making that up...she could have consented then changed her story....who knows.....every job has its perks and lows.... still dont think she should have been threatened but i think its a bit rich saying she was raped. have some dignity woman and dont get urself in that situation.



The attire of many women who go clubbing in this country....expect free drinks off men and then give up sex. I see no differnece but at least the prostituites are more honest.

As they say, one of the oldish professions and in my view we all **** ourselves for something.

Very naive OP and I'm somewhat shocked by your views.

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dc7911

I cant believe peoplecare trying to justify what this person did I wont … I cant believe peoplecare trying to justify what this person did I wont say "man" cos he isnt . What this woman chooses to do with her life is up to her just because she sells sex means she deserved to be raped and beaten ? What about the porn industry then , they all get paid for having sex !



Im not trying to justify what was done, my point was this has happened to her before, it's just a vicious circle that will obviously continue to fund her Heroin habit. Of course I didn't realise prostitution wasn't actually illegal when I posted.

dc7911

I cant believe peoplecare trying to justify what this person did I wont … I cant believe peoplecare trying to justify what this person did I wont say "man" cos he isnt . What this woman chooses to do with her life is up to her just because she sells sex means she deserved to be raped and beaten ? What about the porn industry then , they all get paid for having sex !



that is a safe environment. not at night in middle of street...all men are not mr darcy..there are freaks out there and if u put urself in that sitution then its ur choice!

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pontprennau

Let's be allowing anyone to kill a drug dealer too eh ?



Voted hot. Great idea.

magicbeans

when u stand on street corners at night dressed provoctively u cant … when u stand on street corners at night dressed provoctively u cant expect all blokes to walk past u bidding u a good day...u r there to sell sex in whatever form they demand.....beggars cant be choosy and all....she can claim its rape....but she could be making that up...she could have consented then changed her story....who knows.....every job has its perks and lows.... still dont think she should have been threatened but i think its a bit rich saying she was raped. have some dignity woman and dont get urself in that situation.



She could have consented and changed her story but a Jury found him guilty. They believed her over him. End of story.

pontprennau

Shoplifting ok too ? I mean they are laying "stuff" on the table in … Shoplifting ok too ? I mean they are laying "stuff" on the table in exchange for money? Same **** different day :PLet's be allowing anyone to kill a drug dealer too eh ? I mean they deserve everything they get right? and aren't really human...Because a female for whatever reason decides to sell her body does not give ANYONE the right to rape her. The fact it's happened before hardly makes it her fault either.What next? that "bitch" who got raped walking home from the nightclub deserved it because she was wearing a mini skirt and so OBVIOUSLY was laying it on the table.some people are seriously trolling or have a weird view of what's right and wrong :P



thats why girls walk home with someone...they arent offering it to anyone.... prostitutes stand on the street corners alone asking for it. every girl knows to be safe she shoulf make sure she gets home safely as its dodgy out there.

JonnyTwoToes

Let's get something straight - I don't 'have to' do anything a … Let's get something straight - I don't 'have to' do anything a prepubescent demands of me.I am not about to enter into a debate with an amoeba who seems to think 'prostitutes' can be labelled as 'it' just so it makes your little brain easier to cope with.Women, who decide/or are forced to go into prostitution do it for a myriad of reasons. To suggest a woman, of any repute, is at fault for being raped is simply sick.Get an education and grow up.



I think we agree on something for the first time JTT!

There are normally reasons why women resort to prostitution, main one being to fund a drug habit.
Why are they taking drugs in the first place??
How could you get to such a place in your life where you would do such degrading things for money!!
I feel nothing but pity for them, most of them will have had horrible lives.
But they are all somebodies mum, daughter, sister. They don't deserve to be raped,beaten or murdered.
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